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Orange Man Trumps the Dems
This is awesome.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...spartanntp

The president, in a tweet, called the meeting “a total waste of time” and appeared to confirm that he left after Pelosi's answer.
“I asked what is going to happen in 30 days if I quickly open things up, are you going to approve Border Security which includes a Wall or Steel Barrier? Nancy said, NO. I said bye-bye, nothing else works!” Trump tweeted.
01-09-2019 04:20 PM
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breaking news: government reopens after DJT declares a national emergency to fund border package.... ;0

I have a feeling he's about finished with all this dickin' around bs.....
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(01-09-2019 04:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  breaking news: government reopens after DJT declares a national emergency to fund border package.... ;0

I have a feeling he's about finished with all this dickin' around bs.....

My only fear of that would be as you guys say on this forum, that would change the rules. If the president can declare a national emergency to get around Congress would that open the door to future abuse of it?
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These politicians still haven't realized they are not dealing with another politician. Their usual tactics don't work against him.
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(01-09-2019 04:20 PM)NIUAlum90 Wrote:  This is awesome.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...spartanntp

The president, in a tweet, called the meeting “a total waste of time” and appeared to confirm that he left after Pelosi's answer.
“I asked what is going to happen in 30 days if I quickly open things up, are you going to approve Border Security which includes a Wall or Steel Barrier? Nancy said, NO. I said bye-bye, nothing else works!” Trump tweeted.

Please, please, please let Pelosi confirm this question and her subsequent answer. If she does it would be political suicide after standing up there with Schumer last night and asking Trump to separate the border issue from the budget. It would flat out prove she was being dishonest about her intentions last night.
01-09-2019 04:41 PM
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(01-09-2019 04:32 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 04:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  breaking news: government reopens after DJT declares a national emergency to fund border package.... ;0

I have a feeling he's about finished with all this dickin' around bs.....

My only fear of that would be as you guys say on this forum, that would change the rules. If the president can't declare a national emergency to get around Congress would that open the door to future abuse of it?
it sets a bad precedent. Just like the nuclear option with Harry Reid. I do not support Trump declaring emergency.
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(01-09-2019 04:32 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 04:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  breaking news: government reopens after DJT declares a national emergency to fund border package.... ;0

I have a feeling he's about finished with all this dickin' around bs.....

My only fear of that would be as you guys say on this forum, that would change the rules. If the president can't declare a national emergency to get around Congress would that open the door to future abuse of it?

I'm weary of the action as well. I do think though that the SC would quickly weigh in on the topic and provide clarification as to what would qualify for a national emergency. I could see them saying a half million apprehensions a year at the border qualifies while cautioning about this use of power.
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So....when does the wall start being built? 05-nono

trump will not win this. He's losing his support in congress by the hour. Wake up guys.
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“He asked Speaker Pelosi, ‘will you agree to my wall?’ She said no. And he just got up, and said, 'Well we’ve got nothing to discuss,'" Schumer said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-w...order-wall

Sounds like Schumer verifying what happened. Also, Republicans want cameras back in the meetings, saying dems are lying about what took place.

"Pelosi, D-Calif., said after the meeting that the president was “petulant." Schumer said Trump slammed his hand on a table in frustration, but Vice President Mike Pence and other Republicans, speaking to reporters afterward, denied that happened.

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy said the president was willing to make a deal in the meeting.

"I just listened to Senator Schumer,” McCarthy, a California Republican, said. “I know he complained the time that you had cameras in the meeting. I think we need to bring them back. Because what he described the meeting to be is totally different than what took place."
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(01-09-2019 04:20 PM)NIUAlum90 Wrote:  “I asked what is going to happen in 30 days if I quickly open things up, are you going to approve Border Security which includes a Wall or Steel Barrier? Nancy said, NO. I said bye-bye, nothing else works!” Trump tweeted.

This is amazing. All these Democrats were perfectly fine with building a wall/fence/barrier before Trump ran for president. Suddenly today they are all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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(01-09-2019 04:32 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 04:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  breaking news: government reopens after DJT declares a national emergency to fund border package.... ;0

I have a feeling he's about finished with all this dickin' around bs.....

My only fear of that would be as you guys say on this forum, that would change the rules. If the president can't declare a national emergency to get around Congress would that open the door to future abuse of it?

of course it would. I'd imagine that court challenges would be heard regarding that pretty quickly.
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(01-09-2019 04:41 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 04:20 PM)NIUAlum90 Wrote:  This is awesome.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...spartanntp

The president, in a tweet, called the meeting “a total waste of time” and appeared to confirm that he left after Pelosi's answer.
“I asked what is going to happen in 30 days if I quickly open things up, are you going to approve Border Security which includes a Wall or Steel Barrier? Nancy said, NO. I said bye-bye, nothing else works!” Trump tweeted.

Please, please, please let Pelosi confirm this question and her subsequent answer. If she does it would be political suicide after standing up there with Schumer last night and asking Trump to separate the border issue from the budget. It would flat out prove she was being dishonest about her intentions last night.
That is exactly what happened.


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I think both sides are totally f-ed up.

It's not a wall that we need, it's a reasonable and logical comprehensive immigration policy. The wall without such a policy is worthless. Such a policy without the wall is workable.

Problem is that the democrats see a wave of immigrant instant citizens as instant democrat voters. And so do republicans.
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Should of had a playboy model in there, he doesn't pull out of those.
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(01-09-2019 04:32 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 04:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  breaking news: government reopens after DJT declares a national emergency to fund border package.... ;0

I have a feeling he's about finished with all this dickin' around bs.....

My only fear of that would be as you guys say on this forum, that would change the rules. If the president can declare a national emergency to get around Congress would that open the door to future abuse of it?

thank Harry Reid for opening Pandora's box.....

our turn at the plate again....
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(01-09-2019 05:10 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I think both sides are totally f-ed up.

It's not a wall that we need, it's a reasonable and logical comprehensive immigration policy. The wall without such a policy is worthless. Such a policy without the wall is workable.

Problem is that the democrats see a wave of immigrant instant citizens as instant democrat voters. And so do republicans.

Explain why the wall is working in places we have it, if we don't "have comprehensive immigration policy"? The walls are working, even without a comprehensive immigration policy. Could they work better with a more clear and enforced immigration policy? Of course but the wall is actually a protection even when the other party is sitting in the White house and controlling Congress and decides to catch and release. The wall will still be in place and reducing those numbers just as they have in the cities where we have a wall.
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(01-09-2019 05:13 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Should of had a playboy model in there, he doesn't pull out of those.

They cant afford to pay Trump a few hundred thousand. That seems to be his going rate for playboys and porn stars.
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(01-09-2019 04:20 PM)NIUAlum90 Wrote:  This is awesome.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...spartanntp

The president, in a tweet, called the meeting “a total waste of time” and appeared to confirm that he left after Pelosi's answer.
“I asked what is going to happen in 30 days if I quickly open things up, are you going to approve Border Security which includes a Wall or Steel Barrier? Nancy said, NO. I said bye-bye, nothing else works!” Trump tweeted.
When you get the answer you are looking for....hahahaha!



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(01-09-2019 05:10 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I think both sides are totally f-ed up.

It's not a wall that we need, it's a reasonable and logical comprehensive immigration policy. The wall without such a policy is worthless. Such a policy without the wall is workable.

Problem is that the democrats see a wave of immigrant instant citizens as instant democrat voters. And so do republicans.

replace catch and release with catch and return + wall + no sanctuary cities + continue to fund ICE = winner

anything less than that is substandard and irresponsible governance....
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I think he schedules a date to start rounding up the dreamers.

"I am only enforcing the law as it is. I wish Congress would change this law before we began enforcement in 30 days. I do not pass the laws. I enforce them. Congress has the power to stop this by sending me new legislation to handle the dreamers and fund the border wall within the next 30 days."
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