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RE: Mystery Press Conference Appears on WAC DN
(01-09-2019 10:11 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 08:50 PM)KingSean Wrote:  They invited MSU Denver

LINK?

https://roadrunnersathletics.com/news/20...study.aspx

Essentially, if there was interest then there would be an invite.
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(01-09-2019 10:19 PM)joshadam84 Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 10:11 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 08:50 PM)KingSean Wrote:  They invited MSU Denver

LINK?

https://roadrunnersathletics.com/news/20...study.aspx

Essentially, if there was interest then there would be an invite.

That's fishing, not a formal invite. The chances of Metro State biting is microscopic at best. Show something new that updates Metro State's progression towards D1 membership.
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(01-09-2019 06:01 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  SUU, the Dakotas, etc muddled along as quasi-independents in the 5 team GWFC (along with CP and UCD) until permanent conference affiliation could be had. Dixie can survive in the short term as an FCS Indy. If the possibility of another D2 call up with football arises, that gives them a blueprint until they can get the 6 needed for an autobid. If they can get to four, would CP and UCD be interested in switching affiliation? WAC would have to prove to be stable, first.

The answer on UC Davis and Cal Poly is No, No and definitely No.

They are in the Big West, which except for one strange UCSB alumni, is pretty much a final destination conference for California public schools not in FBS. The causeway classic ties UC Davis and Sacramento State. They have no reason to leave the Big Sky, and the Big Sky has no provision in their bylaws to remove a football associate in good standing. Shedding North Dakota means the schedule is bit tighter.

Nobody in the Big SKy is going to trade games against Eastern Washington, Montana, Idaho and Weber State for the likes of Tarleton State, Dixie State, Augustana, Asuza Pacific or whomever else they dredge up.

There is also the stability issue. In the Big Sky the future is secure for the next many decades. In the WAC who even knows which schools will still be members in ten years.
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RE: Mystery Press Conference Appears on WAC DN
(01-09-2019 11:15 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 10:19 PM)joshadam84 Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 10:11 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 08:50 PM)KingSean Wrote:  They invited MSU Denver

LINK?

https://roadrunnersathletics.com/news/20...study.aspx

Essentially, if there was interest then there would be an invite.

That's fishing, not a formal invite. The chances of Metro State biting is microscopic at best. Show something new that updates Metro State's progression towards D1 membership.

You asked for a link of an invite to MSU Denver. Not something showing their progression. This link clearly states the WAC asked about their interest.

Now back to the topic.
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(01-10-2019 06:13 AM)joshadam84 Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 11:15 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 10:19 PM)joshadam84 Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 10:11 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 08:50 PM)KingSean Wrote:  They invited MSU Denver

LINK?

https://roadrunnersathletics.com/news/20...study.aspx

Essentially, if there was interest then there would be an invite.

That's fishing, not a formal invite. The chances of Metro State biting is microscopic at best. Show something new that updates Metro State's progression towards D1 membership.

You asked for a link of an invite to MSU Denver. Not something showing their progression. This link clearly states the WAC asked about their interest.

Now back to the topic.

The WAC asked about their interest, that's not an invite. Moving on.
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Msu Denver is going through the same process Dixie State did. The feasibility test takes 18-24 months and if they are in favor of it then they can simply move up to the WAC. Basically the WAC asking the schools to look into moving to division I is their invite
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But this is huge for both the WAC and Dixie State and I'm pretty excited about it
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There is absolutely no evidence that the WAC is bringing back football. If it does NMSU will not be an FCS team since that is what most people are speculating that if football is brought back that it would be FCS.
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(01-09-2019 07:42 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 06:38 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  So what is the feeling regarding Dixie St?

After looking at their facilities they seem to be at D1 level. The arena is really nice, the baseball field is really good. Also, St. George is a beautiful area and is a fast growing population center with the metro area around 170k. They will get quite a bit of support and maybe even surpass SUU in the near future.

Now the academic side of things....they are lacking compared to the rest of the WAC. No doctorate degrees offered and only 1 Master degree with 2 more coming soon. So from that viewpoint...it is underwhelming. But that is more on the President's issue. Fans don't seem to care about academic ranking of the schools in the conference.

The WAC has no standards. They have Chicago State and Utah Valley. And they have meh academic religious schools GCU and CBU. UT-RGV is another "regional" school like CSUB. Then they have a rather Big Sky (academically speaking) looking NMSU, and an urban school in UMKC, and a very selective Jesuit school in Seattle.

They have nothing in common except the need for a conference home.

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As for the timing of Dixie State moving up, I think it will be July 2020. Cal Baptist announced two years ago at this time, spend one last year in D-II. On the other hand Grand Canyon announced on November 2012 and joined July 2013. But I think being a public school Dixie will be more deliberate. Also joining immediately would put their football at risk of having no games in 2019 - nobody at Dixie State wants to repeat what happened to Hampton.

Yah, 2020 is CSUB's exit date. One out, one in, sounds right.
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Well its official:

Quote:Dixie State will become the ninth member of the conference in 2020-21, joining California Baptist University; Chicago State University; Grand Canyon University; the University of Missouri-Kansas City; New Mexico State University; Seattle University; The University of Texas Rio Grande Valley; and Utah Valley University.
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Signal dropped out before the D1 announcement. That's sooooo WACdn.
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Colorado Mesa do fit a D1 profile with the number of sports. They have been asked as well.
Central Washington could help alongside Mesa, Utah Valley, Dixie State and GCU as a central core which bridge Seattle U. to the eastern schools.
I would imagine Tarleton State to the WAC announcement could be soon as well. This would give Dixie State another game.
Angelo State, West Texas A&M and Midwestern State could help fill in the void.
Any of those schools above that I mentioned could be in before UMKC and Chicago State leaving.
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(01-11-2019 08:41 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Colorado Mesa do fit a D1 profile with the number of sports. They have been asked as well.
Central Washington could help alongside Mesa, Utah Valley, Dixie State and GCU as a central core which bridge Seattle U. to the eastern schools.
I would imagine Tarleton State to the WAC announcement could be soon as well. This would give Dixie State another game.
Angelo State, West Texas A&M and Midwestern State could help fill in the void.
Any of those schools above that I mentioned could be in before UMKC and Chicago State leaving.

Augustana has announced they're going D1. Going to Summit but hasn't announced Pioneer League yet, but MVFC doesn't want them. So everything has a planned home but football.

So I'm starting to think they're going to do the Independant route and wait till WAC football becomes a reality and join as a football member. Plus going non scholarship will set the program back and likely cause sports to be dropped to make up the lost scholarships.
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(01-11-2019 09:14 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  
(01-11-2019 08:41 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Colorado Mesa do fit a D1 profile with the number of sports. They have been asked as well.
Central Washington could help alongside Mesa, Utah Valley, Dixie State and GCU as a central core which bridge Seattle U. to the eastern schools.
I would imagine Tarleton State to the WAC announcement could be soon as well. This would give Dixie State another game.
Angelo State, West Texas A&M and Midwestern State could help fill in the void.
Any of those schools above that I mentioned could be in before UMKC and Chicago State leaving.

Augustana has announced they're going D1. Going to Summit but hasn't announced Pioneer League yet, but MVFC doesn't want them. So everything has a planned home but football.

So I'm starting to think they're going to do the Independant route and wait till WAC football becomes a reality and join as a football member. Plus going non scholarship will set the program back and likely cause sports to be dropped to make up the lost scholarships.

There are designated threads for conferences expansion talk. Please discuss there.
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(01-11-2019 10:15 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  
(01-11-2019 09:14 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  
(01-11-2019 08:41 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Colorado Mesa do fit a D1 profile with the number of sports. They have been asked as well.
Central Washington could help alongside Mesa, Utah Valley, Dixie State and GCU as a central core which bridge Seattle U. to the eastern schools.
I would imagine Tarleton State to the WAC announcement could be soon as well. This would give Dixie State another game.
Angelo State, West Texas A&M and Midwestern State could help fill in the void.
Any of those schools above that I mentioned could be in before UMKC and Chicago State leaving.

Augustana has announced they're going D1. Going to Summit but hasn't announced Pioneer League yet, but MVFC doesn't want them. So everything has a planned home but football.

So I'm starting to think they're going to do the Independant route and wait till WAC football becomes a reality and join as a football member. Plus going non scholarship will set the program back and likely cause sports to be dropped to make up the lost scholarships.

There are designated threads for conferences expansion talk. Please discuss there.

Augustana would be a steal for the WAC. The conference leadership should try every effort to help Seattle, UMKC, & Chicago State from a geographic standpoint. Drury, Metro State, & Tareleton St I hope can be those choices. Another addition between now and June would make the WAC stable hopefully.
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(01-11-2019 10:15 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  
(01-11-2019 09:14 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  
(01-11-2019 08:41 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Colorado Mesa do fit a D1 profile with the number of sports. They have been asked as well.
Central Washington could help alongside Mesa, Utah Valley, Dixie State and GCU as a central core which bridge Seattle U. to the eastern schools.
I would imagine Tarleton State to the WAC announcement could be soon as well. This would give Dixie State another game.
Angelo State, West Texas A&M and Midwestern State could help fill in the void.
Any of those schools above that I mentioned could be in before UMKC and Chicago State leaving.

Augustana has announced they're going D1. Going to Summit but hasn't announced Pioneer League yet, but MVFC doesn't want them. So everything has a planned home but football.

So I'm starting to think they're going to do the Independant route and wait till WAC football becomes a reality and join as a football member. Plus going non scholarship will set the program back and likely cause sports to be dropped to make up the lost scholarships.

There are designated threads for conferences expansion talk. Please discuss there.

Is this thread not about expansion? That's what the whole press conference was about adding Dixie State. Wouldn't that be an expansion topic?
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(01-12-2019 03:04 AM)desertscholar974 Wrote:  
(01-11-2019 10:15 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  
(01-11-2019 09:14 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  
(01-11-2019 08:41 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Colorado Mesa do fit a D1 profile with the number of sports. They have been asked as well.
Central Washington could help alongside Mesa, Utah Valley, Dixie State and GCU as a central core which bridge Seattle U. to the eastern schools.
I would imagine Tarleton State to the WAC announcement could be soon as well. This would give Dixie State another game.
Angelo State, West Texas A&M and Midwestern State could help fill in the void.
Any of those schools above that I mentioned could be in before UMKC and Chicago State leaving.

Augustana has announced they're going D1. Going to Summit but hasn't announced Pioneer League yet, but MVFC doesn't want them. So everything has a planned home but football.

So I'm starting to think they're going to do the Independant route and wait till WAC football becomes a reality and join as a football member. Plus going non scholarship will set the program back and likely cause sports to be dropped to make up the lost scholarships.

There are designated threads for conferences expansion talk. Please discuss there.

Augustana would be a steal for the WAC. The conference leadership should try every effort to help Seattle, UMKC, & Chicago State from a geographic standpoint. Drury, Metro State, & Tareleton St I hope can be those choices. Another addition between now and June would make the WAC stable hopefully.

Augie would likely just be football. From what I've read they're going to the Summit but MVFC doesn't want them for football. But even then, you're right it's a steal
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(01-12-2019 06:28 AM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  
(01-11-2019 10:15 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  
(01-11-2019 09:14 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  
(01-11-2019 08:41 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Colorado Mesa do fit a D1 profile with the number of sports. They have been asked as well.
Central Washington could help alongside Mesa, Utah Valley, Dixie State and GCU as a central core which bridge Seattle U. to the eastern schools.
I would imagine Tarleton State to the WAC announcement could be soon as well. This would give Dixie State another game.
Angelo State, West Texas A&M and Midwestern State could help fill in the void.
Any of those schools above that I mentioned could be in before UMKC and Chicago State leaving.

Augustana has announced they're going D1. Going to Summit but hasn't announced Pioneer League yet, but MVFC doesn't want them. So everything has a planned home but football.

So I'm starting to think they're going to do the Independant route and wait till WAC football becomes a reality and join as a football member. Plus going non scholarship will set the program back and likely cause sports to be dropped to make up the lost scholarships.

There are designated threads for conferences expansion talk. Please discuss there.

Is this thread not about expansion? That's what the whole press conference was about adding Dixie State. Wouldn't that be an expansion topic?

Maybe I can be of assistance, since I started the thread. As the title states, the thread is about a mystery press conference that appeared on the WAC DN that was discovered to be regarding the addidtion of Dixie State to the membership. That's it. Press conference. Dixie State. Period.
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(01-12-2019 07:02 AM)gleadley Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 06:28 AM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  
(01-11-2019 10:15 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  
(01-11-2019 09:14 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  
(01-11-2019 08:41 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Colorado Mesa do fit a D1 profile with the number of sports. They have been asked as well.
Central Washington could help alongside Mesa, Utah Valley, Dixie State and GCU as a central core which bridge Seattle U. to the eastern schools.
I would imagine Tarleton State to the WAC announcement could be soon as well. This would give Dixie State another game.
Angelo State, West Texas A&M and Midwestern State could help fill in the void.
Any of those schools above that I mentioned could be in before UMKC and Chicago State leaving.

Augustana has announced they're going D1. Going to Summit but hasn't announced Pioneer League yet, but MVFC doesn't want them. So everything has a planned home but football.

So I'm starting to think they're going to do the Independant route and wait till WAC football becomes a reality and join as a football member. Plus going non scholarship will set the program back and likely cause sports to be dropped to make up the lost scholarships.

There are designated threads for conferences expansion talk. Please discuss there.

Is this thread not about expansion? That's what the whole press conference was about adding Dixie State. Wouldn't that be an expansion topic?

Maybe I can be of assistance, since I started the thread. As the title states, the thread is about a mystery press conference that appeared on the WAC DN that was discovered to be regarding the addidtion of Dixie State to the membership. That's it. Press conference. Dixie State. Period.

Fair enough. Just seems like such a broad topic especially when multiple schools are known to be invited with them. Either way, glad to have Dixie State coming. For future football sponsorship, basketball and more. And I had no idea how perfect their facilities already are. They received a $1mil donation during the press conference to rebuild their softball stadium too
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Nice addition.
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