So they will pay for ILLEGAL ALIENS, I guess that means they'd pay to treat ET (Universal Healthcare).

Quote:New York City will begin guaranteeing comprehensive health care to every single resident regardless of someone's ability to pay or immigration status, an unprecedented plan that will protect the more than half-a-million New Yorkers currently using the ER as a primary provider, Mayor Bill de Blasio said.

At a press conference Tuesday, de Blasio said the plan will provide primary and specialty care, from pediatrics to OBGYN, geriatric, mental health and other services, to the city's roughly 600,000 uninsured.

Free Healthcare for all is cheap

Other than ILLEGALS WHY would anyone be uninsured with Free OBAMACARE? So DeBlasio wants taxpayers to pay for non-citizens?!? I would hope Trump will cut off ALL Federal Funding for NYC.

Good. If all the major cities do this, my rates should go down substantially. They just need to figure out how to keep rich people from leaving.

Math doesn't even come close to checking out.

$100 million / 600k = $167 per person, per year.

A sneak peek of what kind of benefits to expect under a "free" democrat universal health care system. The depths to which the alt-left will humiliate themselves, just to virtue signal -- it's just incredible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHNBKg9xI6Q&t=0m58s

RIP NY.

(01-08-2019 08:03 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Math doesn't even come close to checking out.

$100 million / 600k = $167.

Not per month. Not even per year.

$167 total per person

A sneak peek of what kind of benefits to expect under a "free" democrat universal health care system. The depths to which the alt-left will humiliate themselves, just to virtue signal -- it's just incredible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHNBKg9xI6Q&t=0m58s

They state in the video that its $100 million per year.

Call it free it they want, but it's just a shell game with public money. That tax increase will happen somewhere.

(01-08-2019 08:39 PM)q5sys Wrote:  They state in the video that its $100 million per year.

I just saw Tucker point out the same thing I did, but he said “per year” as well. I was going off Shapiro’s podcast from earlier today, where he said they had a $100 million pool, but he didn’t see any definitive plans of them ever adding to it.

My post has been changed to read $167 per person per year. Still laughable.

(01-08-2019 08:45 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 08:39 PM)q5sys Wrote:  They state in the video that its $100 million per year.

I just saw Tucker point out the same thing I did, but he said “per year” as well. I was going off Shapiro’s podcast from earlier today, where he said they had a $100 million pool, but he didn’t see any definitive plans of them ever adding to it.

My post has been changed to read $167 per person per year. Still laughable.

$167 would not pay for one office visit to a General Practitioner forget any specialty practices or more extensive services like MRI or CT Scan.

aoc upon hearing the news....

$167 per person per year might buy you what passes for healthcare in some single-payer and single-provider systems.

Up next-

Free subway cards for all
Guaranteed housing in Manhattan
Season tickets for all NYers to the Yankees, Giants, and Knicks

If NYC is offering free comprehensive healthcare to those who don't have insurance, why would anyone carry and pay for their own insurance? Hint: drop the insurance and get your comprehensive healthcare FREE!

(01-08-2019 10:17 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  If NYC is offering free comprehensive healthcare to those who don't have insurance, why would anyone carry and pay for their own insurance? Hint: drop the insurance and get your comprehensive healthcare FREE!

absolutely.....why pay $x for a monthly premium when $0 is available

are all businesses now going to be required to pay for their employees health care.....if so, watch the marginal business either relocate, shut down, or pass the cost burden to the consumer by raising prices...

IMO, it's also safe to assume physicians will get paid xx% less from those that take advantage of this system....watch the above average/well reputed doctors begin relocating within a year...

I can't imagine how long their wait times are now.....you can bank they'll be longer in this system....

the dem motto: it's all about the reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee baby....screw the longer term consequences....we'll just make more reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

(01-08-2019 08:01 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Good. If all the major cities do this, my rates should go down substantially. They just need to figure out how to keep rich people from leaving.

NY will also have to cancel all those TV business promotion advertisements, etc.

(01-08-2019 08:45 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 08:39 PM)q5sys Wrote:  They state in the video that its $100 million per year.

I just saw Tucker point out the same thing I did, but he said “per year” as well. I was going off Shapiro’s podcast from earlier today, where he said they had a $100 million pool, but he didn’t see any definitive plans of them ever adding to it.

My post has been changed to read $167 per person per year. Still laughable.

I disagree... this isn't laughable at all. This is the depths of human ignorance on display... this is downright shameful. haha

I just wanted to point it out so it could be corrected so that some far lefty didn't swing by later, point it out and then dismiss EVERY criticism as 'everything you said is wrong'.

They do tend to do that.

(01-08-2019 10:17 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  If NYC is offering free comprehensive healthcare to those who don't have insurance, why would anyone carry and pay for their own insurance? Hint: drop the insurance and get your comprehensive healthcare FREE!

Because I assure you, you're not going to want the "free" shite.

Alt-leftists want to take the fact that you even have a choice away. They want to ban private insurance, and dole out the $167 per year to all.

(01-08-2019 10:17 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  If NYC is offering free comprehensive healthcare to those who don't have insurance, why would anyone carry and pay for their own insurance? Hint: drop the insurance and get your comprehensive healthcare FREE!

And this is EXACTLY what has happened previously...

Hawaii, for example.

Hawaii Ending Universal Child Health Care

Quote:A state official said families were dropping private coverage so their children would be eligible for the subsidized plan.

"People who were already able to afford health care began to stop paying for it so they could get it for free," said Dr. Kenny Fink, the administrator for Med-QUEST at the Department of Human Services. "I don't believe that was the intent of the program."

First, this joke of a policy only lasted 7 months!

Second, Hawaii expected tax payers to pay twice:

• With personal income dollars to cover their own children, and
• With tax dollars to cover somebody else's children.
  

There are always unintended consequences with practically every policy. Common sense, however, should have identified this scenario during the policy's drafting.

Why would anybody willfully choose to pay twice for the same service?

It should have been glaringly obvious that parents would choose to reduce their household expenses by eliminating necessary expenses.

I have to pay the higher tax to cover children.

When my company has Open Enrollment for health insurance I might as well drop family coverage because my children are covered by the state.

Voila!

More people enrolled in the state universal coverage resulting in much higher expenses than planned.

Now the state can't afford to offer "free" healthcare to ALL kids because the state had build their model on steali... uh, taxing citizens who already had coverage for their kids.

With Hawaii this caught them by surprise. Now, this might be part of the plan at the federal level. Implement ObamaCare knowing that people will opt to decrease their contributions (corporations drop expensive Cadillac plans to crappy plans to save the $4,000/employee penalty). This might have been a planned baby-step to full-blown Universal care.

I'm fully aware that Marxist strategy says to create a crisis with the plan already in place as to how increased government can resolve the crisis.

And we know that's how Dems and the radleft operate.