What dumbace thinks walls don't work? You leave your door open at night? Your car running in the parking lot? Don't use a password to protect your bank account?

A wall is a locked door. A wall is turning off your car. A wall is a password.

(01-08-2019 11:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  What dumbace thinks walls don't work? You leave your door open at night? Your car running in the parking lot? Don't use a password to protect your bank account?

A wall is a locked door. A wall is turning off your car. A wall is a password.

I'll sign up as one of your dumbaces. The examples you give are all self-contained. My house has four sturdy walls. When I lock the front and back doors and the downstairs windows, it is secure.

Our southern border is not self-contained, and is only one part of the problem (airports were discussed earlier in this thread). The border wall is the equivalent of trying to keep flies out of your house by hanging several fly strips on your front porch. Yeah, it'll get some. But you'll still be living with flies.

Donald Trump does not understand this. But I bet you do.

(01-08-2019 01:24 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 12:44 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 09:39 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 09:34 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 09:17 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Yes cause that’s what al Qaeda and insurgents do in Iraq right? Talk about something you have one iota of knowledge please. You’re too stupid to understand you’re stupid. If it’s a national security issue, you’d better address it like one.

OK moron....let me know when they are launching illegals over the border with rockets and mortars or using them to breach the walls already in place in San Diego, El Paso, and elsewhere. You know...the walls that drastically decreased illegal entries already.

And I'm all in favor of treating border security as a national security issue. Put machine gun nests in towers and employ snipers and kill everyone who crosses the border illicitly if they don't immediately surrender.

Again, you have no idea what you’re talking about and cartels do fire into our country with heavy grade military weapons. They have built sophisticated tunnels with air pumps and electricity. Is it really that far fetched for them to use breaching tools? You know how easy it to construct a bomb right?
Like I originally said, you’d be better off mining the entire thing and saving a ton of money and man power

Strange....I've yet to read about an illegal alien launched over the border.

or any of them using a bomb to breach the existing walls you are conveniently ignoring in your ignorant posts.

After reading your post it’s easy to see why you’d think a wall would work.

Perhaps it's because I've done my research, something you obviously haven't with your continued insistence on using apples to oranges comparisons of warfare and border security.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2...586853001/

Quote:For years, Yuma sector was besieged by chaos as a nearly unending flood of migrants and drugs poured across our border. Even as agents were arresting on average 800 illegal aliens a day, we were still unable to stop the thousands of trucks filled with drugs and humans that quickly crossed a vanishing point and dispersed into communities all across the country.

It is hard for anyone familiar with Yuma sector today to imagine this scene. That’s because nearly a decade ago, a group of bipartisan lawmakers came together to protect the homeland, save innocent lives, and build a physical barrier across the border.

Quote:Although there is still work to do, the border in Yuma sector today is more secure because of this investment. Even under lax enforcement standards, apprehensions in fiscal year 2016 were roughly a 10th of what they were in FY 2005 — and are on track to be even lower this year. Crime has significantly decreased in the Yuma area, and smugglers now look for other less difficult areas of the border to cross — often areas without fencing.

https://nypost.com/2018/01/13/we-already...-it-works/

Quote:When charges of “racism” and “xenophobia” fail, Democrats’ fallback argument against President Trump’s proposed border wall is that it simply “won’t work,” so why waste billions building it? Tell that to the residents of El Paso, Texas.

Federal data show a far-less imposing wall than the one Trump envisions — a two-story corrugated metal fence first erected under the Bush administration — already has dramatically curtailed both illegal border crossings and crime in Texas’ sixth-largest city, which borders the high-crime Mexican city of Juarez.

In fact, the number of deportable illegal immigrants located by the US Border Patrol plummeted by more than 89 percent over the five-year period during which the controversial new fence was built, according to Homeland Security data I reviewed. When the project first started in 2006, illegal crossings totaled 122,261, but by 2010, when the 131-mile fence was completed from one end of El Paso out into the New Mexico desert, immigrant crossings shrank to just 12,251.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter...on-99-per/

Quote:Need an example of a border wall that works? Look to Israel, President Donald Trump has repeatedly said.

Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., echoed the idea during a Feb. 3 CNN interview, claiming that a border fence in Israel has drastically cut illegal immigration along its southern border.

"Israel ... had a real problem with illegal immigrants coming in from the southern border, about 16,000 in one year. In two years, they constructed 143-mile fence, about $2.9 million per mile, and it cut that illegal immigration rate from about 16,000 to I think 18. Cut it by 99 percent," Johnson said.

Quote:This month, Johnson, who chairs the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, released a report titled "Securing Israel: Lessons learned from a nation under constant threat of attack." The report came after a trip Johnson made to Israel where he met the Israeli prime minister and other security officials.

The report notes that the number of people illegally crossing the Israel-Egypt border was more than 16,000 in 2011 and less than 20 in 2016, a 99 percent decrease.

Netanyahu recently touted his country’s southern barrier and gave a nod to Trump, tweeting on Jan. 28, "President Trump is right. I built a wall along Israel's southern border. It stopped all illegal immigration. Great success. Great idea."

Experts we reached out to agree that illegal immigration along Egypt’s southern border has indeed significantly dropped in the years after the fence was built and that Johnson's assessment of its costs and timeframe are sound.

https://voiceofeurope.com/2017/09/hungar...-per-cent/

Quote:Hungary claims that its new border fence has resulted in a 99.7 per cent drop of illegal immigration. The fence is at the border with Croatia and Serbia and construction of it started in June 2015.

Hungary’s chief security advisor Bakondi told reporters that attempts to illegally cross the border dropped from 391,000 in 2015 to 1,184 in 2017.

He added that the drop in illegal immigration is “primarily the result of successful Hungarian border security” and that “the system of technical barriers is the key to the success of border security, and without it, it would be impossible to stop the mass arrival of immigrants”.

(01-08-2019 11:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  What dumbace thinks walls don't work? You leave your door open at night? Your car running in the parking lot? Don't use a password to protect your bank account?

A wall is a locked door. A wall is turning off your car. A wall is a password.

A locked door only works because there are repercussions for going through that barrier. A wall is only useful if there is a punishment for crossing it.

(01-08-2019 11:44 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 11:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  What dumbace thinks walls don't work? You leave your door open at night? Your car running in the parking lot? Don't use a password to protect your bank account?

A wall is a locked door. A wall is turning off your car. A wall is a password.

I'll sign up as one of your dumbaces. The examples you give are all self-contained. My house has four sturdy walls. When I lock the front and back doors and the downstairs windows, it is secure.

Our southern border is not self-contained, and is only one part of the problem (airports were discussed earlier in this thread). The border wall is the equivalent of trying to keep flies out of your house by hanging several fly strips on your front porch. Yeah, it'll get some. But you'll still be living with flies.

Donald Trump does not understand this. But I bet you do.

The United States of America is contained. It has a border. Try landing at O'Hare and sneaking in. You can't. Customs enforces our borders and immigration rules via walls and containment.

You want to ignore our national boundaries so that people can illegally migrate to this country to join the Democrat power base. Your plan is to run out the clock until 2020 when hopefully liberals have put in place the machinery necessary to tip the vote in a few key states over to the Democrats.

That is why we need a wall and need it now.

(01-08-2019 11:44 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 11:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  What dumbace thinks walls don't work? You leave your door open at night? Your car running in the parking lot? Don't use a password to protect your bank account?

A wall is a locked door. A wall is turning off your car. A wall is a password.

I'll sign up as one of your dumbaces. The examples you give are all self-contained. My house has four sturdy walls. When I lock the front and back doors and the downstairs windows, it is secure.

Our southern border is not self-contained, and is only one part of the problem (airports were discussed earlier in this thread). The border wall is the equivalent of trying to keep flies out of your house by hanging several fly strips on your front porch. Yeah, it'll get some. But you'll still be living with flies.

Donald Trump does not understand this. But I bet you do.

what you're omitting is NOBODY thinks this is anything more than another logical move to help further reduce illegal crossings....

in the six sigma world, it's called continuous improvement...

those that denounce "the wall won't work" are no different than those that have proclaimed, "that's the way we've always done it" as "best method" folk....

this has become nothing but another politicized event based on the reluctance of the left to negotiate with the many proposals offered over the past two years....the longer it draws out, the more it only hurts the left....

I have no problem with the left continually choking on their own phlegm....they only have themselves to blame at this point....

Has someone taken over stink's account? His statements are starting to flow together and make sense. So either his username has been hijacked or my brain is doing a better job of stinkdeciphering.

(01-08-2019 11:58 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 11:44 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 11:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  What dumbace thinks walls don't work? You leave your door open at night? Your car running in the parking lot? Don't use a password to protect your bank account?

A wall is a locked door. A wall is turning off your car. A wall is a password.

I'll sign up as one of your dumbaces. The examples you give are all self-contained. My house has four sturdy walls. When I lock the front and back doors and the downstairs windows, it is secure.

Our southern border is not self-contained, and is only one part of the problem (airports were discussed earlier in this thread). The border wall is the equivalent of trying to keep flies out of your house by hanging several fly strips on your front porch. Yeah, it'll get some. But you'll still be living with flies.

Donald Trump does not understand this. But I bet you do.

The United States of America is contained. It has a border. Try landing at O'Hare and sneaking in. You can't. Customs enforces our borders and immigration rules via walls and containment.

You want to ignore our national boundaries so that people can illegally migrate to this country to join the Democrat power base. Your plan is to run out the clock until 2020 when hopefully liberals have put in place the machinery necessary to tip the vote in a few key states over to the Democrats.

That is why we need a wall and need it now.

If you read "Democrat" in my posts, then you need to past that dumbace sticker on your own forehead.

I've read enough of your posts to know that you are smarter than Donald Trump. But on this thread, you are working overtime to prove otherwise.

(01-08-2019 12:10 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 11:44 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 11:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  What dumbace thinks walls don't work? You leave your door open at night? Your car running in the parking lot? Don't use a password to protect your bank account?

A wall is a locked door. A wall is turning off your car. A wall is a password.

I'll sign up as one of your dumbaces. The examples you give are all self-contained. My house has four sturdy walls. When I lock the front and back doors and the downstairs windows, it is secure.

Our southern border is not self-contained, and is only one part of the problem (airports were discussed earlier in this thread). The border wall is the equivalent of trying to keep flies out of your house by hanging several fly strips on your front porch. Yeah, it'll get some. But you'll still be living with flies.

Donald Trump does not understand this. But I bet you do.

what you're omitting is NOBODY thinks this is anything more than another logical move to help further reduce illegal crossings....

in the six sigma world, it's called continuous improvement...

those that denounce "the wall won't work" are no different than those that have proclaimed, "that's the way we've always done it" as "best method" folk....

this has become nothing but another politicized event based on the reluctance of the left to negotiate with the many proposals offered over the past two years....the longer it draws out, the more it only hurts the left....

I have no problem with the left continually choking on their own phlegm....they only have themselves to blame at this point....

I dearly hope that you are right. But I do believe that this is President Trumps exact mindset.

(01-08-2019 11:44 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 11:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  What dumbace thinks walls don't work? You leave your door open at night? Your car running in the parking lot? Don't use a password to protect your bank account?

A wall is a locked door. A wall is turning off your car. A wall is a password.

I'll sign up as one of your dumbaces. The examples you give are all self-contained. My house has four sturdy walls. When I lock the front and back doors and the downstairs windows, it is secure.

Our southern border is not self-contained, and is only one part of the problem (airports were discussed earlier in this thread). The border wall is the equivalent of trying to keep flies out of your house by hanging several fly strips on your front porch. Yeah, it'll get some. But you'll still be living with flies.

Donald Trump does not understand this. But I bet you do.

Ok. Instead of a wall would you be for immigration sweeps across the US and deporting all found illegal immigrants?

(01-08-2019 11:44 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 11:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  What dumbace thinks walls don't work? You leave your door open at night? Your car running in the parking lot? Don't use a password to protect your bank account?

A wall is a locked door. A wall is turning off your car. A wall is a password.

I'll sign up as one of your dumbaces. The examples you give are all self-contained. My house has four sturdy walls. When I lock the front and back doors and the downstairs windows, it is secure.

Our southern border is not self-contained, and is only one part of the problem (airports were discussed earlier in this thread). The border wall is the equivalent of trying to keep flies out of your house by hanging several fly strips on your front porch. Yeah, it'll get some. But you'll still be living with flies.

Donald Trump does not understand this. But I bet you do.

I think you have that backwards...

the wall is like shutting your windows and the open door that the flies came in. The fly strips is what we have in place. You dont understand that, I bet the President does. The flies are still doing to get in but at a lesser rate that you can control with the fly strips. Where the fly strips by them self.....

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(01-08-2019 12:14 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Has someone taken over stink's account? His statements are starting to flow together and make sense. So either his username has been hijacked or my brain is doing a better job of stinkdeciphering.

I don't know what I'm looking forward to the most tonight...

DJT's continual pounding or how silly and inept Chuck and Nancy will look afterwards....

(01-08-2019 12:18 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 11:44 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 11:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  What dumbace thinks walls don't work? You leave your door open at night? Your car running in the parking lot? Don't use a password to protect your bank account?

A wall is a locked door. A wall is turning off your car. A wall is a password.

I'll sign up as one of your dumbaces. The examples you give are all self-contained. My house has four sturdy walls. When I lock the front and back doors and the downstairs windows, it is secure.

Our southern border is not self-contained, and is only one part of the problem (airports were discussed earlier in this thread). The border wall is the equivalent of trying to keep flies out of your house by hanging several fly strips on your front porch. Yeah, it'll get some. But you'll still be living with flies.

Donald Trump does not understand this. But I bet you do.

Ok. Instead of a wall would you be for immigration sweeps across the US and deporting all found illegal immigrants?

that's what's so transparent in all this....their only solution is the status quo that 'flies'....

(01-08-2019 12:18 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 11:44 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 11:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  What dumbace thinks walls don't work? You leave your door open at night? Your car running in the parking lot? Don't use a password to protect your bank account?

A wall is a locked door. A wall is turning off your car. A wall is a password.

I'll sign up as one of your dumbaces. The examples you give are all self-contained. My house has four sturdy walls. When I lock the front and back doors and the downstairs windows, it is secure.

Our southern border is not self-contained, and is only one part of the problem (airports were discussed earlier in this thread). The border wall is the equivalent of trying to keep flies out of your house by hanging several fly strips on your front porch. Yeah, it'll get some. But you'll still be living with flies.

Donald Trump does not understand this. But I bet you do.

Ok. Instead of a wall would you be for immigration sweeps across the US and deporting all found illegal immigrants?

That would be more effective. But the even better approach is to knock off the giveaways to illegals. See my post #9 on this thread.

(01-08-2019 12:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 11:44 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 11:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  What dumbace thinks walls don't work? You leave your door open at night? Your car running in the parking lot? Don't use a password to protect your bank account?

A wall is a locked door. A wall is turning off your car. A wall is a password.

I'll sign up as one of your dumbaces. The examples you give are all self-contained. My house has four sturdy walls. When I lock the front and back doors and the downstairs windows, it is secure.

Our southern border is not self-contained, and is only one part of the problem (airports were discussed earlier in this thread). The border wall is the equivalent of trying to keep flies out of your house by hanging several fly strips on your front porch. Yeah, it'll get some. But you'll still be living with flies.

Donald Trump does not understand this. But I bet you do.

I think you have that backwards...

the wall is like shutting your windows and the open door that the flies came in. The fly strips is what we have in place. You dont understand that, I bet the President does. The flies are still doing to get in but at a lesser rate that you can control with the fly strips. Where the fly strips by them self.....

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That's certainly the way we're headed. So I hope you're right.

(01-08-2019 12:24 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 12:18 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 11:44 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 11:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  What dumbace thinks walls don't work? You leave your door open at night? Your car running in the parking lot? Don't use a password to protect your bank account?

A wall is a locked door. A wall is turning off your car. A wall is a password.

I'll sign up as one of your dumbaces. The examples you give are all self-contained. My house has four sturdy walls. When I lock the front and back doors and the downstairs windows, it is secure.

Our southern border is not self-contained, and is only one part of the problem (airports were discussed earlier in this thread). The border wall is the equivalent of trying to keep flies out of your house by hanging several fly strips on your front porch. Yeah, it'll get some. But you'll still be living with flies.

Donald Trump does not understand this. But I bet you do.

Ok. Instead of a wall would you be for immigration sweeps across the US and deporting all found illegal immigrants?

That would be more effective. But the even better approach is to knock off the giveaways to illegals. See my post #9 on this thread.

I don't think anyone argued against such....you can blame that on "catch and release" which leads to the following...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapotheca...c2aae912c4

Quote:Current federal policy is to prohibit federal tax funding of health care to unauthorized immigrants through either Medicaid or Obamacare. Nevertheless, rough estimates suggest that the nation's 3.9 million uninsured immigrants who are unauthorized likely receive about $4.6 billion in health services paid for by federal taxes, $2.8 billion in health services financed by state and local taxpayers, another $3.0 bankrolled through "cost-shifting" i.e., higher payments by insured patients to cover hospital uncompensated care losses, and roughly $1.5 billion in physician charity care. In addition to these amounts, unauthorized immigrants likely benefit from at least $0.9 billion in implicit federal subsidies due to the tax exemption for nonprofit hospitals and another $5.7 billion in tax expenditures from the employer tax exclusion.

there is no question these loopholes need to be resolved.....however, good luck with that in today's emotional version of the msm controlled house....

(01-08-2019 11:47 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 01:24 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 12:44 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 09:39 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 09:34 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  OK moron....let me know when they are launching illegals over the border with rockets and mortars or using them to breach the walls already in place in San Diego, El Paso, and elsewhere. You know...the walls that drastically decreased illegal entries already.

And I'm all in favor of treating border security as a national security issue. Put machine gun nests in towers and employ snipers and kill everyone who crosses the border illicitly if they don't immediately surrender.

Again, you have no idea what you’re talking about and cartels do fire into our country with heavy grade military weapons. They have built sophisticated tunnels with air pumps and electricity. Is it really that far fetched for them to use breaching tools? You know how easy it to construct a bomb right?
Like I originally said, you’d be better off mining the entire thing and saving a ton of money and man power

Strange....I've yet to read about an illegal alien launched over the border.

or any of them using a bomb to breach the existing walls you are conveniently ignoring in your ignorant posts.

After reading your post it’s easy to see why you’d think a wall would work.

Perhaps it's because I've done my research, something you obviously haven't with your continued insistence on using apples to oranges comparisons of warfare and border security.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2...586853001/

Quote:For years, Yuma sector was besieged by chaos as a nearly unending flood of migrants and drugs poured across our border. Even as agents were arresting on average 800 illegal aliens a day, we were still unable to stop the thousands of trucks filled with drugs and humans that quickly crossed a vanishing point and dispersed into communities all across the country.

It is hard for anyone familiar with Yuma sector today to imagine this scene. That’s because nearly a decade ago, a group of bipartisan lawmakers came together to protect the homeland, save innocent lives, and build a physical barrier across the border.

Quote:Although there is still work to do, the border in Yuma sector today is more secure because of this investment. Even under lax enforcement standards, apprehensions in fiscal year 2016 were roughly a 10th of what they were in FY 2005 — and are on track to be even lower this year. Crime has significantly decreased in the Yuma area, and smugglers now look for other less difficult areas of the border to cross — often areas without fencing.

https://nypost.com/2018/01/13/we-already...-it-works/

Quote:When charges of “racism” and “xenophobia” fail, Democrats’ fallback argument against President Trump’s proposed border wall is that it simply “won’t work,” so why waste billions building it? Tell that to the residents of El Paso, Texas.

Federal data show a far-less imposing wall than the one Trump envisions — a two-story corrugated metal fence first erected under the Bush administration — already has dramatically curtailed both illegal border crossings and crime in Texas’ sixth-largest city, which borders the high-crime Mexican city of Juarez.

In fact, the number of deportable illegal immigrants located by the US Border Patrol plummeted by more than 89 percent over the five-year period during which the controversial new fence was built, according to Homeland Security data I reviewed. When the project first started in 2006, illegal crossings totaled 122,261, but by 2010, when the 131-mile fence was completed from one end of El Paso out into the New Mexico desert, immigrant crossings shrank to just 12,251.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter...on-99-per/

Quote:Need an example of a border wall that works? Look to Israel, President Donald Trump has repeatedly said.

Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., echoed the idea during a Feb. 3 CNN interview, claiming that a border fence in Israel has drastically cut illegal immigration along its southern border.

"Israel ... had a real problem with illegal immigrants coming in from the southern border, about 16,000 in one year. In two years, they constructed 143-mile fence, about $2.9 million per mile, and it cut that illegal immigration rate from about 16,000 to I think 18. Cut it by 99 percent," Johnson said.

Quote:This month, Johnson, who chairs the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, released a report titled "Securing Israel: Lessons learned from a nation under constant threat of attack." The report came after a trip Johnson made to Israel where he met the Israeli prime minister and other security officials.

The report notes that the number of people illegally crossing the Israel-Egypt border was more than 16,000 in 2011 and less than 20 in 2016, a 99 percent decrease.

Netanyahu recently touted his country’s southern barrier and gave a nod to Trump, tweeting on Jan. 28, "President Trump is right. I built a wall along Israel's southern border. It stopped all illegal immigration. Great success. Great idea."

Experts we reached out to agree that illegal immigration along Egypt’s southern border has indeed significantly dropped in the years after the fence was built and that Johnson's assessment of its costs and timeframe are sound.

https://voiceofeurope.com/2017/09/hungar...-per-cent/

Quote:Hungary claims that its new border fence has resulted in a 99.7 per cent drop of illegal immigration. The fence is at the border with Croatia and Serbia and construction of it started in June 2015.

Hungary’s chief security advisor Bakondi told reporters that attempts to illegally cross the border dropped from 391,000 in 2015 to 1,184 in 2017.

He added that the drop in illegal immigration is “primarily the result of successful Hungarian border security” and that “the system of technical barriers is the key to the success of border security, and without it, it would be impossible to stop the mass arrival of immigrants”.

Again, Hungary border < US border. Israeli border < US border. I can’t put it in more simple terms than that. Also, I said barriers that would funnel people into catch areas are the ideal solution. Lastly, most illegal immigration and drugs come through airports and legal ports of entry neither would be stopped by a wall.

Does anyone actually believe that parents would risk death of their children, women risk rape, people would risk murder and torture to cross an uninhabited desert with little food and water; see a wall and then turn around and go home?

(01-07-2019 09:18 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 09:18 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 09:02 PM)Kronke Wrote:  We already have physical barriers at certain spots on the border, and they work. Stick with "walls are immoral because reasons" pelosi argument. It's still a loser, but at least it isn't provably wrong.

You alt-leftists are boxed in and I'm loving it.

Yeah I’m not a leftist nor an alt leftist bc I believe an actual wall is worthless.

Well, your opinion is provably wrong.

The 15 miles at San Diego reduced crossings by 95%. They had similar results in Arizona.

Walls have been build and they work. To say otherwise is just repeating mindless talking points.

Are they 100% effective, no. But 95% is pretty good.

(01-08-2019 12:41 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 09:18 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 09:18 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 09:02 PM)Kronke Wrote:  We already have physical barriers at certain spots on the border, and they work. Stick with "walls are immoral because reasons" pelosi argument. It's still a loser, but at least it isn't provably wrong.

You alt-leftists are boxed in and I'm loving it.

Yeah I’m not a leftist nor an alt leftist bc I believe an actual wall is worthless.

Well, your opinion is provably wrong.

The 15 miles at San Diego reduced crossings by 95%. They had similar results in Arizona.

Walls have been build and they work. To say otherwise is just repeating mindless talking points.

Are they 100% effective, no. But 95% is pretty good.

All it did was push the immigration further away from developed areas

(01-08-2019 12:48 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 12:41 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 09:18 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 09:18 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 09:02 PM)Kronke Wrote:  We already have physical barriers at certain spots on the border, and they work. Stick with "walls are immoral because reasons" pelosi argument. It's still a loser, but at least it isn't provably wrong.

You alt-leftists are boxed in and I'm loving it.

Yeah I’m not a leftist nor an alt leftist bc I believe an actual wall is worthless.

Well, your opinion is provably wrong.

The 15 miles at San Diego reduced crossings by 95%. They had similar results in Arizona.

Walls have been build and they work. To say otherwise is just repeating mindless talking points.

Are they 100% effective, no. But 95% is pretty good.

All it did was push the immigration further away from developed areas

which proves more physical border protection is required to the point of controlled entry only....