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RE: CFP Director Bill Hancock foresees no playoff expansion before 2026 at earliest
(01-06-2019 09:23 PM)OrangeDude Wrote:  
(01-06-2019 02:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Dang do you guys miss the point.

2. The current system could enhance itself if not for the intransigence of 1 organization, The Rose Bowl. The whole process is bowing down to 1 bowl game that only benefits two conferences. Their 5 PM exclusivity window already forces 3 SEC schools to play at essentially the same time on New Year's day. I see no reason for the Rose Bowl to move from their 5 PM slot, but I also see no reason for the prohibition of any other Bowl representing conferences not named Big 10 and PAC to be played in an overlapping time on another channel. IMO, the Rose Bowl's exclusive time slot is a restraint on trade. Of course you can get better ratings if you are the only damned game on the tube.

To some this may appear to be a case of "the pot calling the kettle black". After all, when you think about, why should the CFP semi-final games be played on any day other than January 1? They don't now when those semis are held with Orange/Cotton or Fiesta/Peach. And that has as much to do with the SEC/B12 Sugar as it does the B1G/PAC Rose.

I do, however, agree that if the status quo remains the Rose is the game that should be in the evening time slot - it is after all three hours earlier on the West Coast. But who ever said College Football was sensible?

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Just so we are clear. I'm for the Rose keeping their time slot. I'm not for the Rose keeping other bowls from being played at the same time, or overlapping times.

Right now we have 3 bowls on New Year's that overlap. Only the Rose has an exclusive window. Fans of other conferences not named the Big 10 and PAC12 would like to be able to spread the other 3 bowls of the day out a bit. No bowl deserves exclusivity.
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RE: CFP Director Bill Hancock foresees no playoff expansion before 2026 at earliest
This year's CFP is the beginning of the end of the four team playoff.

Ratings decline, Santa Clara debacle, and Clemson/Bama IV, and overall general apathy will all be contributing factors. But when the obituary is written in however many years, this will be one of the dates they point to.
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RE: CFP Director Bill Hancock foresees no playoff expansion before 2026 at earliest
for the love of God, the ratings were actually UP from the last time the Orange/Cotton hosted the semifinals. It's down yes from last year, but that's the same thing that happened from year 1 to year 2.

What I do think is that the Santa Clara site probably never gets used again.
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(01-07-2019 12:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:  for the love of God, the ratings were actually UP from the last time the Orange/Cotton hosted the semifinals. It's down yes from last year, but that's the same thing that happened from year 1 to year 2.

What I do think is that the Santa Clara site probably never gets used again.

Yep. Right on both counts. No need for Chicken Little's the sky is falling fear here. The only thing that happens after the game tonight is that people will be talking either about Saban's 7th natty, or Dabo's big win. Then by Thursday the talk will be about why we are sticking with 4, maybe a little bit of post season realignment junk tossed in, and everyone will still be holding their breath for the Alston case, which is very telling. When I say everyone I don't mean message board folks or fans, I mean all of the presidents, commissioners, and AD's.
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(01-07-2019 12:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:  for the love of God, the ratings were actually UP from the last time the Orange/Cotton hosted the semifinals. It's down yes from last year, but that's the same thing that happened from year 1 to year 2.

What I do think is that the Santa Clara site probably never gets used again.

On the radio they were worrying that the field would be mush from all the rain as well as Bay Area humidity.
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(01-07-2019 12:37 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 12:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:  for the love of God, the ratings were actually UP from the last time the Orange/Cotton hosted the semifinals. It's down yes from last year, but that's the same thing that happened from year 1 to year 2.

What I do think is that the Santa Clara site probably never gets used again.

Yep. Right on both counts. No need for Chicken Little's the sky is falling fear here. The only thing that happens after the game tonight is that people will be talking either about Saban's 7th natty, or Dabo's big win. Then by Thursday the talk will be about why we are sticking with 4, maybe a little bit of post season realignment junk tossed in, and everyone will still be holding their breath for the Alston case, which is very telling. When I say everyone I don't mean message board folks or fans, I mean all of the presidents, commissioners, and AD's.

Big 10 champ on the sidelines 3 years in a row. Pac 12 out 3 of 5. Big 12 out 2 of 5. There's going to be serious interest about expanding to 8.
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(01-07-2019 01:24 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 12:37 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 12:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:  for the love of God, the ratings were actually UP from the last time the Orange/Cotton hosted the semifinals. It's down yes from last year, but that's the same thing that happened from year 1 to year 2.

What I do think is that the Santa Clara site probably never gets used again.

Yep. Right on both counts. No need for Chicken Little's the sky is falling fear here. The only thing that happens after the game tonight is that people will be talking either about Saban's 7th natty, or Dabo's big win. Then by Thursday the talk will be about why we are sticking with 4, maybe a little bit of post season realignment junk tossed in, and everyone will still be holding their breath for the Alston case, which is very telling. When I say everyone I don't mean message board folks or fans, I mean all of the presidents, commissioners, and AD's.

Big 10 champ on the sidelines 3 years in a row. Pac 12 out 3 of 5. Big 12 out 2 of 5. There's going to be serious interest about expanding to 8.

Even if I thought you might be right on this, and I don't, nothing of substance can happen until after the Alston case.

The Alston decision could impact how the FBS is comported. It could bring us to a new world in which an upper tier has no cap on payment to players. If that is established then there could exist lawfully other tiers below it that would set caps on payments, and some that may not pay at all.

It could mean that those who wanted to compete in an upper tier would have to organize themselves into leagues where a salary cap could be placed upon teams, but not upon players.

So until the committee knows what the outcome of that case is, anything they do right now now is meaningless. We may not have 65 P schools after Alston. We may not have an FBS after Alston. And if a new upper tier of 36 to 48 schools who are willing to operate without a cap on payments is established we certainly may not even need 8 team playoff.

All of this talk is just the cart before the horse until Alston is settled.

If Alston loses then eventually there may be discussions about an 8 team playoff. But even then the bowl situation will have to be dealt with, consensus will have to be formed among university presidents, AD's, and coaches, and the networks will have to be willing to fund it. I could easily see how the contract on the CFP could expire before the rest was accomplished.
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RE: CFP Director Bill Hancock foresees no playoff expansion before 2026 at earliest
(01-07-2019 01:22 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 12:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:  for the love of God, the ratings were actually UP from the last time the Orange/Cotton hosted the semifinals. It's down yes from last year, but that's the same thing that happened from year 1 to year 2.

What I do think is that the Santa Clara site probably never gets used again.

On the radio they were worrying that the field would be mush from all the rain as well as Bay Area humidity.

The 49ers field has been terrible since they started playing there. It was in bad condition during the NFL season and again during the bowl game played there a week ago.

No reason to rotate to that stadium again anyway, because by the time they choose more neutral sites in the west, they'll have the new LA and Vegas stadiums available in addition to Glendale.
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