Hokie Mark
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RE: A Push Into the P5?
(01-07-2019 12:23 PM)JRsec Wrote: (01-07-2019 12:04 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: (01-06-2019 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote: (01-06-2019 07:56 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: (01-06-2019 11:13 AM)murrdcu Wrote: Would be smarter for ACC to add Texas as a partial and, if needed, add a couple of their friends to seal the deal.
IF there's on-going talk of Texas as a partial a'la Notre Dame (a big "IF", but still), then grooming a couple of full-time Texas teams to go along with them would be crucial. Houston could easily be one of those teams, and TCU certainly fits the ACC mold... leaving the SEC free to take on OU and Oklahoma State (and possibly Kansas and Texas Tech as well). Later, the ACC goes back and grabs WVU and Iowa State, thus getting both conferences to 18 full while dissolving the Big XII in the process (only Baylor and Kansas State would be left behind).
If the SEC and ACC are going to dissolve the Big 12 there is another way to get her done. Yes circa ESPN 2009-11. The SEC adds T.C.U., N.C. State, Virginia Tech, and Kansas. The ACC adds Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State and Iowa State. This way only Baylor and WVU are left out.
The point is you need a division for Texas to stick around. Offer that and they join in full. If Texas joins in full then eventually we will move to 4 champs and N.D. will join as well.
Forget about promoting a current G5 like Houston. FYI Texas didn't want Houston in the Big 12. They don't like playing Houston. You might, and I mean might, consider Tulane for New Orleans and another AAU program. They do have a history with Ga Tech.
Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, Tulane
Boston College, Louisville, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Miami
Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Virginia
*Wake Forest as a partial in football and all in for other sports.
Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana State, Missouri, Texas A&M, T.C.U.
Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, N.C. State, South Carolina, Virginia Tech
Now why do I say this? Because unless you are willing to do something like that there is no way that Texas ever sniffs the ACC.
Probably good for the ACC, but it puts VT in the Northeastern corner of the SEC, which I'm not crazy about (currently in pretty much the middle of the ACC).
You can't move your state. You are in the Northeastern corner of the SEC geographically. But it does put you in a much better recruiting division. You have annual games with Georgia and Florida two of the top 3 SEC recruiting grounds. If you had an annual crossover with A&M it would put you in all three. You would have neighborly rivals that would be winnable for you with N.C. State and Kentucky.
Frankly, I think it would revitalize your football much more quickly than the slow death spiral you've been in since joining the ACC.
The Hokies already have annual games in Florida (Miami), Georgia (GT), North Carolina (UNC, Duke), Northern Virginia (UVA) and Pennsylvania (Pitt). Plus, all of those games are winnable!
VT used to play S Carolina regularly when both were independent, but have never much played Tennessee, Georgia, Kentucky or Florida. Under the "traded to SEC" scenario, SC and NC State would be the only teams with any history.
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