saw McMurphy post his-
1-CFB champ 2-Runner-up 3-OU 4-OhioSt 5-ND 6-LSU 7-Texas 8-UGA 9-UF 10-WSU 11-UK 12-UW 13-Mich 14-UCF 15-Army 16-A&M 17-Fresno 18-Syracuse 19-N’western 20-PSU 21-Boise 22-AppSt 23-UtahSt 24-UAB 25-WVU

21 seems high for Boise St and 3 Mountain West schools is an anomaly. 9/10 conferences represented - no MAC.

(01-07-2019 03:07 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  21 seems high for Boise St and 3 Mountain West schools is an anomaly. 9/10 conferences represented - no MAC.

He's always been partial to the MWC. As I recall he is from Oklahoma, went to Oklahoma State and spent his formative years covering sports in West Texas.

(01-02-2019 12:03 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  1 Clemson/Alabama
2 Clemson/Alabama
3 Oklahoma
4 Ohio State
5 Notre Dame
6 Georgia
7 LSU
8 Texas
9 Florida
10 Central Florida
11 Washington
12 Washington State
13 Kentucky
14 Michigan
15 Army
16 Texas A&M
17 Syracuse
18 Fresno
19 Northwestern
20 Iowa State
21 Utah State
22 Utah
23 Stanford
24 Cincinnati
25 UAB

This could be close to what the final rankings turn out to be. And if it is, it will demonstrate what is bad about rankings like this. Army had a wonderful year, and I'm happy as I can be for them. But in no way are they one of the top 30 teams in the country, much less top 15.

That's a "let's throw the Cadets a bone" vote.

(01-07-2019 04:01 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 12:03 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  1 Clemson/Alabama
2 Clemson/Alabama
3 Oklahoma
4 Ohio State
5 Notre Dame
6 Georgia
7 LSU
8 Texas
9 Florida
10 Central Florida
11 Washington
12 Washington State
13 Kentucky
14 Michigan
15 Army
16 Texas A&M
17 Syracuse
18 Fresno
19 Northwestern
20 Iowa State
21 Utah State
22 Utah
23 Stanford
24 Cincinnati
25 UAB

This could be close to what the final rankings turn out to be. And if it is, it will demonstrate what is bad about rankings like this. Army had a wonderful year, and I'm happy as I can be for them. But in no way are they one of the top 30 teams in the country, much less top 15.

That's a "let's throw the Cadets a bone" vote.

When you look at who else is behind them and actual results on the field, there's a good argument for them being ranked.

(01-04-2019 04:54 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Here's my guess:

Final AP Rank. School (W-L, most recent result, previous AP rank)

1. Alabama (15-0, W/W, 1) OR Clemson (15-0, W/W, 2)
2. Clemson (14-1, W/L, 2) OR Alabama (14-1, W/L, 1)
3. Ohio State (13-1, W, 5)
4. Notre Dame (12-1, L, 3)
5. Oklahoma (12-2, L, 4)
6. Georgia (11-3, L, 6)
7. Florida (10-3, W, 10)
8. LSU (10-3, W, 11)
9. Washington State (11-2, W, 12)
10. UCF (12-1, L, 7)
11. Michigan (10-3, L, 8)
12. Texas (10-4, W, 14)
13. Kentucky (10-3, W, 16)
14. Syracuse (10-3, W, 17)
15. Washington (10-4, L, 9)
16. Fresno State (12-2, W, 19)
17. Penn State (9-4, L, 13)
18. Texas A&M (9-4, W, 21)
19. Army (10-2, W, 22)
20. West Virginia (8-4, L, 15)
21. Northwestern (9-5, W, NR)
22. Utah State (11-2, W, NR)
23. Boise State (10-3, DNP, 23)
24. Mississippi State (8-5, L, 18)
25. Utah (9-5, L, 20)

NC State and Duke have a good year. Hope if Clemson win the national championship, four ACC teams can be ranked in the final poll.

(01-07-2019 04:32 PM)ArQ Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 04:54 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Here's my guess:

Final AP Rank. School (W-L, most recent result, previous AP rank)

1. Alabama (15-0, W/W, 1) OR Clemson (15-0, W/W, 2)
2. Clemson (14-1, W/L, 2) OR Alabama (14-1, W/L, 1)
3. Ohio State (13-1, W, 5)
4. Notre Dame (12-1, L, 3)
5. Oklahoma (12-2, L, 4)
6. Georgia (11-3, L, 6)
7. Florida (10-3, W, 10)
8. LSU (10-3, W, 11)
9. Washington State (11-2, W, 12)
10. UCF (12-1, L, 7)
11. Michigan (10-3, L, 8)
12. Texas (10-4, W, 14)
13. Kentucky (10-3, W, 16)
14. Syracuse (10-3, W, 17)
15. Washington (10-4, L, 9)
16. Fresno State (12-2, W, 19)
17. Penn State (9-4, L, 13)
18. Texas A&M (9-4, W, 21)
19. Army (10-2, W, 22)
20. West Virginia (8-4, L, 15)
21. Northwestern (9-5, W, NR)
22. Utah State (11-2, W, NR)
23. Boise State (10-3, DNP, 23)
24. Mississippi State (8-5, L, 18)
25. Utah (9-5, L, 20)

NC State and Duke have a good year. Hope if Clemson win the national championship, four ACC teams can be ranked in the final poll.

I doubt any teams from NC will finish in the Top25 but if one does, it won't be one from the ACC.

(01-07-2019 04:45 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 04:32 PM)ArQ Wrote:  

(01-04-2019 04:54 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Here's my guess:

Final AP Rank. School (W-L, most recent result, previous AP rank)

1. Alabama (15-0, W/W, 1) OR Clemson (15-0, W/W, 2)
2. Clemson (14-1, W/L, 2) OR Alabama (14-1, W/L, 1)
3. Ohio State (13-1, W, 5)
4. Notre Dame (12-1, L, 3)
5. Oklahoma (12-2, L, 4)
6. Georgia (11-3, L, 6)
7. Florida (10-3, W, 10)
8. LSU (10-3, W, 11)
9. Washington State (11-2, W, 12)
10. UCF (12-1, L, 7)
11. Michigan (10-3, L, 8)
12. Texas (10-4, W, 14)
13. Kentucky (10-3, W, 16)
14. Syracuse (10-3, W, 17)
15. Washington (10-4, L, 9)
16. Fresno State (12-2, W, 19)
17. Penn State (9-4, L, 13)
18. Texas A&M (9-4, W, 21)
19. Army (10-2, W, 22)
20. West Virginia (8-4, L, 15)
21. Northwestern (9-5, W, NR)
22. Utah State (11-2, W, NR)
23. Boise State (10-3, DNP, 23)
24. Mississippi State (8-5, L, 18)
25. Utah (9-5, L, 20)

NC State and Duke have a good year. Hope if Clemson win the national championship, four ACC teams can be ranked in the final poll.

I doubt any teams from NC will finish in the Top25 but if one does, it won't be one from the ACC.

NC State did choke the WF game, but only lost to Clemson 41-7 and lost to Syracuse and TAMU -both of whom will be ranked in the top 12-15. Three top 15 losses out of 4. Yeah, I guess App had a better year after all.

The six non-P5 teams in the final poll is, I believe, the largest since before the BCS era.