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Lets let Kalu just be Kalu and however he turns out to be over the course of his time here at ODU. He's a good, hard working player with a lot of potential and we are all happy to have him on the team. To make comparisons to Odell is unfair to both of them at this point in Kalu's brief time at ODU. Odell is one of the premier big men and players to ever wear an ODU uniform. He's had his jersey retired at ODU. As Mac related earlier, he was a significant star on the team from day one with the stats to back it up. Maybe one day later in his career Kalu will be in the same conversation as Odell, but not today.
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Yep. Odell may well have been a lottery pick before his injury. Not likely to see another one like him in a mid-major uniform.
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(01-07-2019 01:38 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  Yep. Odell may well have been a lottery pick before his injury. Not likely to see another one like him in a mid-major uniform.

Not to be that guy, but I think we did Saturday night.
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(01-07-2019 01:58 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 01:38 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  Yep. Odell may well have been a lottery pick before his injury. Not likely to see another one like him in a mid-major uniform.

Not to be that guy, but I think we did Saturday night.

Admittedly, I haven't seen much of Bassey. He's definitely a talent. But what from I've seen, I would take a young (pre-injury) Odell.
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So ended up doing surgery? Seems like a silly question from the pic but never know.
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(01-07-2019 02:43 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  So ended up doing surgery? Seems like a silly question from the pic but never know.

Yeah, think they mentioned on Thursday that he was having surgery today. That's where it went from undetermined time missed to out for the year.
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(01-07-2019 02:44 PM)Punk Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 02:43 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  So ended up doing surgery? Seems like a silly question from the pic but never know.

Yeah, think they mentioned on Thursday that he was having surgery today. That's where it went from undetermined time missed to out for the year.

Ah, thanks. For some reason I was thinking surgery = faster return but maybe not the best course.
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(01-07-2019 02:43 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  So ended up doing surgery? Seems like a silly question from the pic but never know.

Yea he got the surgery.
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(01-07-2019 10:10 AM)north beach monarch Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 09:51 AM)mac Wrote:  EBM, did you say Odell Hodge? The hardest workin Monarch EVER ! I too love Kalu, hope you are right. He sure looks like he has some serious ability.

The main difference was Odell was fully ready from day ONE. Hodge average 15 points, 2.5 blocks, 56% shooting and 9 rebounds his FIRST YEAR. PS, two time CAA player of the year, (FYI, for you youngsters)

Kalu needs a year of strength training to catch up to Odell. They have the same size and body types. Hodge dominated on defense with his size and strength. Kalu already has great hands and feet movement. Love that reverse layup put back he does after offensive rebounds

Jesus Christ these never get old.

Sam Harris all Caa and a guy averaging 3.1 and 2 is going to turn into Odell hodge, one of the top 2 or 3 college players in program history.

Got it. Lol
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(01-07-2019 02:43 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  So ended up doing surgery? Seems like a silly question from the pic but never know.

No that's what the bedrooms in the village look like these days 03-drunk
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(01-07-2019 12:43 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Lets let Kalu just be Kalu and however he turns out to be over the course of his time here at ODU. He's a good, hard working player with a lot of potential and we are all happy to have him on the team. To make comparisons to Odell is unfair to both of them at this point in Kalu's brief time at ODU. Odell is one of the premier big men and players to ever wear an ODU uniform. He's had his jersey retired at ODU. As Mac related earlier, he was a significant star on the team from day one with the stats to back it up. Maybe one day later in his career Kalu will be in the same conversation as Odell, but not today.

Not trying to say Kalu will be as good as Hodge. I was just saying when I first saw him his body type was almost identical. And the short time we have seen him play, Kalu looks like he could be a stud. At this point I am just happy he is a Monarch.
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(01-07-2019 04:10 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 12:43 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Lets let Kalu just be Kalu and however he turns out to be over the course of his time here at ODU. He's a good, hard working player with a lot of potential and we are all happy to have him on the team. To make comparisons to Odell is unfair to both of them at this point in Kalu's brief time at ODU. Odell is one of the premier big men and players to ever wear an ODU uniform. He's had his jersey retired at ODU. As Mac related earlier, he was a significant star on the team from day one with the stats to back it up. Maybe one day later in his career Kalu will be in the same conversation as Odell, but not today.

Not trying to say Kalu will be as good as Hodge. I was just saying when I first saw him his body type was almost identical. And the short time we have seen him play, Kalu looks like he could be a stud. At this point I am just happy he is a Monarch.

Agree, that’s all I said, he has the body type and needs a year of strength and working on improving his game. SMH at some of these comments. I expect it from Razor, he knows as much about college basketball as a 9th grader playing at the rec center, some of you other guys should know better.
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(01-07-2019 04:33 PM)north beach monarch Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 04:10 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 12:43 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Lets let Kalu just be Kalu and however he turns out to be over the course of his time here at ODU. He's a good, hard working player with a lot of potential and we are all happy to have him on the team. To make comparisons to Odell is unfair to both of them at this point in Kalu's brief time at ODU. Odell is one of the premier big men and players to ever wear an ODU uniform. He's had his jersey retired at ODU. As Mac related earlier, he was a significant star on the team from day one with the stats to back it up. Maybe one day later in his career Kalu will be in the same conversation as Odell, but not today.

Not trying to say Kalu will be as good as Hodge. I was just saying when I first saw him his body type was almost identical. And the short time we have seen him play, Kalu looks like he could be a stud. At this point I am just happy he is a Monarch.

Agree, that’s all I said, he has the body type and needs a year of strength and working on improving his game. SMH at some of these comments. I expect it from Razor, he knows as much about college basketball as a 9th grader playing at the rec center, some of you other guys should know better.

RAZOR IN 3...….2...…….1
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(01-07-2019 04:10 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 12:43 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Lets let Kalu just be Kalu and however he turns out to be over the course of his time here at ODU. He's a good, hard working player with a lot of potential and we are all happy to have him on the team. To make comparisons to Odell is unfair to both of them at this point in Kalu's brief time at ODU. Odell is one of the premier big men and players to ever wear an ODU uniform. He's had his jersey retired at ODU. As Mac related earlier, he was a significant star on the team from day one with the stats to back it up. Maybe one day later in his career Kalu will be in the same conversation as Odell, but not today.

Not trying to say Kalu will be as good as Hodge. I was just saying when I first saw him his body type was almost identical. And the short time we have seen him play, Kalu looks like he could be a stud. At this point I am just happy he is a Monarch.

I understand. I didn't single anyone out with my comment. I too am happy that Kalu is a member of the Monarchs, and he appears to have a good potential for some anticipated growth during his remaining years if he stays with the team and puts forth the work in the gym and the weight room. Only time will tell us how good he ends up being as a player.

Guys like Odell, Mark West, and Ronnie Valentine (for example) were special talents and it was obvious that they were from day one. As special of a defensive talent as West was, even he grew significantly talent wise between his sophomore and junior seasons. He came back for his junior season about 30 pounds heavier (muscle, not fat) and was a much better offensive player in the post from then on.

Others like Frank Hassell worked to make themselves into a special talent after a few years of putting in the time in the gym and the weight room while at ODU. His last couple of seasons, he played in the CAA like a man playing among boys. W & M's coach told me personally that they couldn't do anything with him inside, and JMU's coach stated to the news media that he was a match up problem for them. The combination of him being more mature, bigger, stronger, and learning how to play the low post college game by his junior season made him a much better player than he was before. I am hopeful that will be the kind of progress that we see in the years ahead with Kalu.
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(01-07-2019 05:05 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 04:10 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 12:43 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Lets let Kalu just be Kalu and however he turns out to be over the course of his time here at ODU. He's a good, hard working player with a lot of potential and we are all happy to have him on the team. To make comparisons to Odell is unfair to both of them at this point in Kalu's brief time at ODU. Odell is one of the premier big men and players to ever wear an ODU uniform. He's had his jersey retired at ODU. As Mac related earlier, he was a significant star on the team from day one with the stats to back it up. Maybe one day later in his career Kalu will be in the same conversation as Odell, but not today.

Not trying to say Kalu will be as good as Hodge. I was just saying when I first saw him his body type was almost identical. And the short time we have seen him play, Kalu looks like he could be a stud. At this point I am just happy he is a Monarch.

I understand. I didn't single anyone out with my comment. I too am happy that Kalu is a member of the Monarchs, and he appears to have a good potential for some anticipated growth during his remaining years if he stays with the team and puts forth the work in the gym and the weight room. Only time will tell us how good he ends up being as a player.

Guys like Odell, Mark West, and Ronnie Valentine (for example) were special talents and it was obvious that they were from day one. As special of a defensive talent as West was, even he grew significantly talent wise between his sophomore and junior seasons. He came back for his junior season about 30 pounds heavier (muscle, not fat) and was a much better offensive player in the post from then on.

Others like Frank Hassell worked to make themselves into a special talent after a few years of putting in the time in the gym and the weight room while at ODU. His last couple of seasons, he played in the CAA like a man playing among boys. W & M's coach told me personally that they couldn't do anything with him inside, and JMU's coach stated to the news media that he was a match up problem for them. The combination of him being more mature, bigger, stronger, and learning how to play the low post college game by his junior season made him a much better player than he was before. I am hopeful that will be the kind of progress that we see in the years ahead with Kalu.

I'll go along with this. I refuse (or at least try to) to compare current players to past ones. As much as I want to (or see some glimpses in games), I try to refrain. Your example of Hassell is a prime example to the non-"1-&-dones" in that if you actually put the work in, you can make a great difference in your own personal development (and future career). I will never forget talking to players from the 2009-2011 teams, who said that, even they, were shock at the transformation/progression he took during off-seasons.
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(01-07-2019 05:46 PM)Nukesquad Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 05:05 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 04:10 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 12:43 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Lets let Kalu just be Kalu and however he turns out to be over the course of his time here at ODU. He's a good, hard working player with a lot of potential and we are all happy to have him on the team. To make comparisons to Odell is unfair to both of them at this point in Kalu's brief time at ODU. Odell is one of the premier big men and players to ever wear an ODU uniform. He's had his jersey retired at ODU. As Mac related earlier, he was a significant star on the team from day one with the stats to back it up. Maybe one day later in his career Kalu will be in the same conversation as Odell, but not today.

Not trying to say Kalu will be as good as Hodge. I was just saying when I first saw him his body type was almost identical. And the short time we have seen him play, Kalu looks like he could be a stud. At this point I am just happy he is a Monarch.

I understand. I didn't single anyone out with my comment. I too am happy that Kalu is a member of the Monarchs, and he appears to have a good potential for some anticipated growth during his remaining years if he stays with the team and puts forth the work in the gym and the weight room. Only time will tell us how good he ends up being as a player.

Guys like Odell, Mark West, and Ronnie Valentine (for example) were special talents and it was obvious that they were from day one. As special of a defensive talent as West was, even he grew significantly talent wise between his sophomore and junior seasons. He came back for his junior season about 30 pounds heavier (muscle, not fat) and was a much better offensive player in the post from then on.

Others like Frank Hassell worked to make themselves into a special talent after a few years of putting in the time in the gym and the weight room while at ODU. His last couple of seasons, he played in the CAA like a man playing among boys. W & M's coach told me personally that they couldn't do anything with him inside, and JMU's coach stated to the news media that he was a match up problem for them. The combination of him being more mature, bigger, stronger, and learning how to play the low post college game by his junior season made him a much better player than he was before. I am hopeful that will be the kind of progress that we see in the years ahead with Kalu.

I'll go along with this. I refuse (or at least try to) to compare current players to past ones. As much as I want to (or see some glimpses in games), I try to refrain. Your example of Hassell is a prime example to the non-"1-&-dones" in that if you actually put the work in, you can make a great difference in your own personal development (and future career). I will never forget talking to players from the 2009-2011 teams, who said that, even they, were shock at the transformation/progression he took during off-seasons.

I understand your refraining from comparison of players, especially from different eras. However, having seen every player come through since Dave Twardzik, I always find myself making comparisons. But, please don't misunderstand me. In no means when I make a comparison , I am not trying to say this player is going to be better than that player or the same level. I just have some fun looking back at our starts and seeing how some players games or style should may be similar.

For example, when I saw Jason Wade play in high school , I thought he played with an attitude like Ben Finney. He is similar in size and plays with a big heart. I have no clue how he will develop compared to Finney. I hope he has his success. Kalu reminds me of Hodge with his frame , the way he try's to post up, etc. Godwin reminds me of Mike Jones with that silky smooth jump shot. Jones didn't put the ball on the floor much as he was a center in high school but he had a nice jump shot and turned into a strong wing player. I won't bore you with more but I compare everyone. I am still looking for the next Dave Twardzik.
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Is this injury to Godwin much bigger than we thought?
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We are not as good without Godwin, but there is nothing we can do about that.
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