(02-06-2019 09:36 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 09:18 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 09:10 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 08:57 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 12:48 AM)HarvardTiger Wrote:  not that much better than this year's squad. if this is what we are going into next season with, temper the expectations.

No matter who else we get this team will need time to gel. And the experience teams will give us fits especially early in the year.

Well at least you acknowledged that this list isn’t the actual finished product. We’ll definitely add some more players and the way kids transfer these days, you’d think a player or 2 might leave.

Don’t know if any players are going to transfer out or even if we can afford to have any because of APR. But no matter who comes or goes the experience factor is going to cost us a few games.

FWIW, I don’t have what I would consider high expectations. However, most teams don’t land the #1 player in the nation very often. You have to capitalize on that while you can (AKA land other top recruits in 2019 and make some noise next season). Otherwise, you can guarantee there will be some hardcore negative recruiting against us.

“Yeah, well he had a top 10 recruiting class and the #1 player in the nation and still didn’t win.”

For Penny’s sake and the sake of the team going forward, you better hope we’re good next year; not “similar to this year’s team”. That would be a train wreck.

I think we will be much better than this years team. I just think it will take this team a little time to gel. Not saying the whole year. But we will lose some games because of our inexperience. Just my opinion.

Its simple

Sophomores are better than freshmen

Wiseman > Davenport
Dandridge > Parks
Jefferies > Brewton
Thomas > Thornton

Hardaway, Wingett, Boyce > nobody

??? > Martin or Martin > ???

Its impossible to say we won't be better next season.

(02-06-2019 11:16 AM)cmt Wrote:  Its simple

Sophomores are better than freshmen

Wiseman > Davenport
Dandridge > Parks
Jefferies > Brewton
Thomas > Thornton

Hardaway, Wingett, Boyce > nobody

??? > Martin or Martin > ???

Its impossible to say we won't be better next season.

I am not sure Thomas is better than Thornton although he will have a whole year to learn the system under Penny. Even if it's a wash then it will be good.

(02-06-2019 11:55 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:16 AM)cmt Wrote:  Its simple

Sophomores are better than freshmen

Wiseman > Davenport
Dandridge > Parks
Jefferies > Brewton
Thomas > Thornton

Hardaway, Wingett, Boyce > nobody

??? > Martin or Martin > ???

Its impossible to say we won't be better next season.

I am not sure Thomas is better than Thornton although he will have a whole year to learn the system under Penny. Even if it's a wash then it will be good.

I’m confident in saying Thornton isn’t a better player than Thomas. That said, we’ll find out.

(02-06-2019 11:16 AM)cmt Wrote:  Its simple

Sophomores are better than freshmen

Wiseman > Davenport
Dandridge > Parks
Jefferies > Brewton
Thomas > Thornton

Hardaway, Wingett, Boyce > nobody

??? > Martin or Martin > ???

Its impossible to say we won't be better next season.

Exactly ^

(02-06-2019 12:43 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:55 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:16 AM)cmt Wrote:  Its simple

Sophomores are better than freshmen

Wiseman > Davenport
Dandridge > Parks
Jefferies > Brewton
Thomas > Thornton

Hardaway, Wingett, Boyce > nobody

??? > Martin or Martin > ???

Its impossible to say we won't be better next season.

I am not sure Thomas is better than Thornton although he will have a whole year to learn the system under Penny. Even if it's a wash then it will be good.

I’m confident in saying Thornton isn’t a better player than Thomas. That said, we’ll find out.

I think Thornton is our best player. He's had difficulty figuring out his role. Difficult for a guy who might be the best player in practice to accept a role as a gritty, tough defender who on the other end helps open up shots for others and rebounds well. Penny seems top have managed this well. He has Jeremiah playing well in a much different role than last year.

Next year, I believe our challenge is getting big egos and personalities of the extremely talented freshman to play well together and play well with our current guys. This seems to be Penny's forte.

Talent + Family mentality with 1 goal + skilled coaching staff = FUN!

(02-06-2019 12:43 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:55 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:16 AM)cmt Wrote:  Its simple

Sophomores are better than freshmen

Wiseman > Davenport
Dandridge > Parks
Jefferies > Brewton
Thomas > Thornton

Hardaway, Wingett, Boyce > nobody

??? > Martin or Martin > ???

Its impossible to say we won't be better next season.

I am not sure Thomas is better than Thornton although he will have a whole year to learn the system under Penny. Even if it's a wash then it will be good.

I’m confident in saying Thornton isn’t a better player than Thomas. That said, we’ll find out.

I don't think either one of them are really scorers. Thornton has been invaluable to us this year for his rebounding alone. I expect Thomas will provide us some depth but with the addition of Wiseman and Dandridge alone we shouldn't have as big a need next year for rebounding. I am really not sure what basis you expect Thomas to be a better player than Thornton. He barely got off the bench last year at Louisville.

(02-06-2019 12:59 PM)gusrob Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 12:43 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:55 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:16 AM)cmt Wrote:  Its simple

Sophomores are better than freshmen

Wiseman > Davenport
Dandridge > Parks
Jefferies > Brewton
Thomas > Thornton

Hardaway, Wingett, Boyce > nobody

??? > Martin or Martin > ???

Its impossible to say we won't be better next season.

I am not sure Thomas is better than Thornton although he will have a whole year to learn the system under Penny. Even if it's a wash then it will be good.

I’m confident in saying Thornton isn’t a better player than Thomas. That said, we’ll find out.

I think Thornton is our best player. He's had difficulty figuring out his role. Difficult for a guy who might be the best player in practice to accept a role as a gritty, tough defender who on the other end helps open up shots for others and rebounds well. Penny seems top have managed this well. He has Jeremiah playing well in a much different role than last year.

Next year, I believe our challenge is getting big egos and personalities of the extremely talented freshman to play well together and play well with our current guys. This seems to be Penny's forte.

Talent + Family mentality with 1 goal + skilled coaching staff = FUN!

I think that's a bigger issue this year. All the seniors, including Martin, haven't really adjusted to the new players.

Wiseman, Dandridge, and Jeffries have played a ton of basketball together. They've alos played with ALO. I think the chemistry next year will be improved dramatically.

(02-06-2019 01:34 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 12:43 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:55 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:16 AM)cmt Wrote:  Its simple

Sophomores are better than freshmen

Wiseman > Davenport
Dandridge > Parks
Jefferies > Brewton
Thomas > Thornton

Hardaway, Wingett, Boyce > nobody

??? > Martin or Martin > ???

Its impossible to say we won't be better next season.

I am not sure Thomas is better than Thornton although he will have a whole year to learn the system under Penny. Even if it's a wash then it will be good.

I’m confident in saying Thornton isn’t a better player than Thomas. That said, we’ll find out.

I don't think either one of them are really scorers. Thornton has been invaluable to us this year for his rebounding alone. I expect Thomas will provide us some depth but with the addition of Wiseman and Dandridge alone we shouldn't have as big a need next year for rebounding. I am really not sure what basis you expect Thomas to be a better player than Thornton. He barely got off the bench last year at Louisville.

Just watching him practice and the way he shoots during warmups before home games. Go early and watch him. Also he flew up and down the court at Memphis madness was around the rim and made two or three three’s in the scrimmage. That plus my friend Ron Finch who sees a lot of him at the practice facility.

Those are my reasons. I am well aware that these reasons aren’t good enough for you, which leads me back to what I have said on this issue and others several times... we shall find out soon enough, I think he’s going to be a big help to Penny, if I’m wrong I will admit to being wrong. But I do encourage you to watch him shoot and make moves before games. Sometimes he goes to one end by himself and shoots and makes two to three dribble moves and shoots. He has the look of a good player. That’s all I got for you.

I called a friend to ask about Lance Thomas. All I read here is how he won’t be any good. My friend says he dominates at practice and he could see him averaging 15 or more a game. So, there’s that. Now again for all those who think he’s not going to be any good, if you guys are right I will post you were right and I was wrong. I have nothing to gain by saying I believe he will help and be productive. I’m simply passing along information. We will see.

(02-06-2019 12:43 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:55 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:16 AM)cmt Wrote:  Its simple

Sophomores are better than freshmen

Wiseman > Davenport
Dandridge > Parks
Jefferies > Brewton
Thomas > Thornton

Hardaway, Wingett, Boyce > nobody

??? > Martin or Martin > ???

Its impossible to say we won't be better next season.

I am not sure Thomas is better than Thornton although he will have a whole year to learn the system under Penny. Even if it's a wash then it will be good.

I’m confident in saying Thornton isn’t a better player than Thomas. That said, we’ll find out.

Link?

(02-06-2019 01:44 PM)misplaced tiger Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 12:59 PM)gusrob Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 12:43 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:55 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 11:16 AM)cmt Wrote:  Its simple

Sophomores are better than freshmen

Wiseman > Davenport
Dandridge > Parks
Jefferies > Brewton
Thomas > Thornton

Hardaway, Wingett, Boyce > nobody

??? > Martin or Martin > ???

Its impossible to say we won't be better next season.

I am not sure Thomas is better than Thornton although he will have a whole year to learn the system under Penny. Even if it's a wash then it will be good.

I’m confident in saying Thornton isn’t a better player than Thomas. That said, we’ll find out.

I think Thornton is our best player. He's had difficulty figuring out his role. Difficult for a guy who might be the best player in practice to accept a role as a gritty, tough defender who on the other end helps open up shots for others and rebounds well. Penny seems top have managed this well. He has Jeremiah playing well in a much different role than last year.

Next year, I believe our challenge is getting big egos and personalities of the extremely talented freshman to play well together and play well with our current guys. This seems to be Penny's forte.

Talent + Family mentality with 1 goal + skilled coaching staff = FUN!

I think that's a bigger issue this year. All the seniors, including Martin, haven't really adjusted to the new players.

Wiseman, Dandridge, and Jeffries have played a ton of basketball together. They've alos played with ALO. I think the chemistry next year will be improved dramatically.

I tend to agree with you.

I think we'll be more talented than most (if not all) of our schedule.
I think our coaching staff is well equipped to gameplan and make game decisions.
The thing that could be our achilles heel is the group coming together as 1.

I agree with you in that I don't believe we'll have issues next year and expect big things. I also think this year has been tough. Our older guys unfortunately don't have that killer instinct. Hoping our younger guys do. And I'm hoping they lead the incoming Freshman. If memory serves me well, Penny has said as much. Penny is thinking about the combination already---that's a good thing. We won't be perfect tho. We will have some struggles to go along with our success next year.

(02-06-2019 02:18 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  I called a friend to ask about Lance Thomas. All I read here is how he won’t be any good. My friend says he dominates at practice and he could see him averaging 15 or more a game. So, there’s that. Now again for all those who think he’s not going to be any good, if you guys are right I will post you were right and I was wrong. I have nothing to gain by saying I believe he will help and be productive. I’m simply passing along information. We will see.

Not sure dominating in practice on a team void of talent is much of an indicator. We heard the same stuff about some of the newcomers leading up into this season, and have heard the same about other Tiger players in past years who did the same but didn't turn out to bring much to the table.

Not saying Thomas might not be/turn into a decent player or serviceable but given he couldn't get on the floor in some capacity during his year at UL when they were in disarray could mean something.

Thomas may not be a superstar, but he also could easily be the best big on the team right now. The bar isn’t set real high w/ Parks, Maurice and Davenport’s inside game.

(02-06-2019 03:05 PM)HarvardTiger Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 02:18 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  I called a friend to ask about Lance Thomas. All I read here is how he won’t be any good. My friend says he dominates at practice and he could see him averaging 15 or more a game. So, there’s that. Now again for all those who think he’s not going to be any good, if you guys are right I will post you were right and I was wrong. I have nothing to gain by saying I believe he will help and be productive. I’m simply passing along information. We will see.

Not sure dominating in practice on a team void of talent is much of an indicator. We heard the same stuff about some of the newcomers leading up into this season, and have heard the same about other Tiger players in past years who did the same but didn't turn out to bring much to the table.

Not saying Thomas might not be/turn into a decent player or serviceable but given he couldn't get on the floor in some capacity during his year at UL when they were in disarray could mean something.

Just because we have heard about other Tiger players doing well in practice and then not transferring on the floor in real actual games doesn’t mean Lance will be just like them. Each player is different. I’m simply passing along what others, who have seen him a lot, have said about him. Frankly at this point I wish I hadn’t said anything about Lance Thomas.

Again, if he turns out to be garbage I will say I was wrong for posting that I thought LT would be good.

Thornton averages 6.1 pos, 4.9 rbs 1.1 ast 1.3 tov per game in 21 minutes played
Not giant shoes to fill, but ok, I'll give you Thomas=Thornton
if y'all will give the number one player in the country a little more credit.

(02-06-2019 03:27 PM)cmt Wrote:  Thornton averages 6.1 pos, 4.9 rbs 1.1 ast 1.3 tov per game in 21 minutes played
Not giant shoes to fill, but ok, I'll give you Thomas=Thornton
if y'all will give the number one played in the country a little more credit.

Good post. I for one, do not think Thornton is equal to or better than Thomas.

Who hopes I’m right and they are wrong? Anyone?

(02-06-2019 03:44 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 03:27 PM)cmt Wrote:  Thornton averages 6.1 pos, 4.9 rbs 1.1 ast 1.3 tov per game in 21 minutes played
Not giant shoes to fill, but ok, I'll give you Thomas=Thornton
if y'all will give the number one played in the country a little more credit.

Good post. I for one, do not think Thornton is equal to or better than Thomas.

Who hopes I’m right and they are wrong? Anyone?

It's your world Joe1

The rest of us are nothing but Joe2's, Joe3's, Joe4's.....

(02-06-2019 05:30 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 03:44 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 03:27 PM)cmt Wrote:  Thornton averages 6.1 pos, 4.9 rbs 1.1 ast 1.3 tov per game in 21 minutes played
Not giant shoes to fill, but ok, I'll give you Thomas=Thornton
if y'all will give the number one played in the country a little more credit.

Good post. I for one, do not think Thornton is equal to or better than Thomas.

Who hopes I’m right and they are wrong? Anyone?

It's your world Joe1

The rest of us are nothing but Joe2's, Joe3's, Joe4's.....

Will the wife let you have the main TV at 6:00 tomorrow? Or will you be relegated to the lesser?

Keep in mind I’m just needling you back. It’s fair right?

(02-06-2019 05:34 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 05:30 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 03:44 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-06-2019 03:27 PM)cmt Wrote:  Thornton averages 6.1 pos, 4.9 rbs 1.1 ast 1.3 tov per game in 21 minutes played
Not giant shoes to fill, but ok, I'll give you Thomas=Thornton
if y'all will give the number one played in the country a little more credit.

Good post. I for one, do not think Thornton is equal to or better than Thomas.

Who hopes I’m right and they are wrong? Anyone?

It's your world Joe1

The rest of us are nothing but Joe2's, Joe3's, Joe4's.....

Will the wife let you have the main TV at 6:00 tomorrow? Or will you be relegated to the lesser?

Keep in mind I’m just needling you back. It’s fair right?

Oh and you didn’t answer the question, do you hope Thomas is better than Thornton? It’s easy.