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A few home wins and the Dukes would be right back in the middle of the pack and back in the race for a top 6 spot. As for winning the CAAT, it is not easy(as all Tribe fans know). Hofstra and W&M have had consistent success for a number of years and neither has a tournament title although both won the regular season in the last 5 years. Both are very competitive year in and year out. Once ODU and VCU left, the only team that has more than 1 CAA tourney championship since 2000 is UNCW. But, 2 of those came recently with Keatts. Charleston has 1, you guys have 1, Delaware 1(UGH), and Northeastern 1. The other 5 schools have zero and Drexel, Towson and Elon have never even made the finals. Charleston might take the step to multiple titles this season especially with the very significant(not quite VCU like) homecourt advantage for the tournament. Plus, CAA history says you have to finish top 3 to have any shot at the tourney championship. Your ECU(1993) mention is the only time ever that a seed below #4 won the title. And #4 only has won once.

But W&M, Charleston, Hofstra, Northeastern, and UNCW basically feel like they have a chance to win it all every year. There really isn't any reason based on talent and facilities that JMU shouldn't be in that group. The Dukes got the 2013 title and the Matt Brady led tie for the regular season title in 2015. They just lack consistent results. The Tribe and Hofstra might trade their consistency for one title like you guys have. The Dukes definitely have talent. Lewis is very good and there is good talent inside(Wilson) as well. Lewis v. Riller will be very entertaining Saturday.
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Good points TribePride. But you have to remember the following:

The 2013 title did not count because the CAA was weak
The 2015 regular season title we shared did not count because we did not beat any of the teams we tied with.
In 2016, 11 CAA wins did not count because we had a bunch of non athletic players

And if you look at the above 4 year run, it happened with no new arena on the horizon or cost of attendance. It also happened while the coach’s bosses would tell anybody who would listen that the Coach should have been fired in 2012 and would have been let go in 2013 if he did not win the CAA tournament that did not count.

The six seasons before Brady, our combined CAA record was 21-77
Our current coach’s record in the CAA is 13-25

Go Dukes
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(01-01-2019 02:23 PM)JacksonHall Wrote:  If they got fed up enough and fired mid season - bringing a guy familiar with the program out of retirement like Mike Deane might be an answer. At least he's a coach.

enough with this Mike Deane stuff....what exactly did Mike Deane do other than wear some snazzy jackets and be entertaining to chat with.
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(01-01-2019 07:42 PM)Dukesfan1971 Wrote:  Good points TribePride. But you have to remember the following:

The 2013 title did not count because the CAA was weak
The 2015 regular season title we shared did not count because we did not beat any of the teams we tied with.
In 2016, 11 CAA wins did not count because we had a bunch of non athletic players

And if you look at the above 4 year run, it happened with no new arena on the horizon or cost of attendance. It also happened while the coach’s bosses would tell anybody who would listen that the Coach should have been fired in 2012 and would have been let go in 2013 if he did not win the CAA tournament that did not count.

The six seasons before Brady, our combined CAA record was 21-77
Our current coach’s record in the CAA is 13-25

Go Dukes

#134 in the country. Such a shining example of a season. And sadly, 2013 was the best season we've had in over 2 decades as far as tournament results. But even that couldn't propel us into the top 100.
In 2015 we were #190. One and done in the CAAT and then one and done in a pay-to-play tourney when we were playing a team not even in the top 200.
In 2016 (the best year ranking wise in forever) we ended at #108, but guess what...we got destroyed by W&M in our first game in the CAAT.

So...your point is that we should not have fired Brady because it could be worse? Well, that's true. But again...that's because we went from a medium-low salary coach with previous HC experience to a low salary coach with zero HC experience. And things, as a result, did get worse...and have remained worse.

However, to hold any year of Brady's tenure up like he was doing an amazing job is silly. We never broke the top 100 (only one year were we actually close) and only one year did we win the CAAT (and that was the only year we were close).

But you're right...out of our last several coaches, Brady was the best. Let's not kid ourselves in thinking he was hitting the goals that a university of our size and budget should be reaching. I've also never seen a program lose their top recruit so consistently year after year to transfer.
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(01-02-2019 04:11 PM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  
(01-01-2019 07:42 PM)Dukesfan1971 Wrote:  Good points TribePride. But you have to remember the following:

The 2013 title did not count because the CAA was weak
The 2015 regular season title we shared did not count because we did not beat any of the teams we tied with.
In 2016, 11 CAA wins did not count because we had a bunch of non athletic players

And if you look at the above 4 year run, it happened with no new arena on the horizon or cost of attendance. It also happened while the coach’s bosses would tell anybody who would listen that the Coach should have been fired in 2012 and would have been let go in 2013 if he did not win the CAA tournament that did not count.

The six seasons before Brady, our combined CAA record was 21-77
Our current coach’s record in the CAA is 13-25

Go Dukes

#134 in the country. Such a shining example of a season. And sadly, 2013 was the best season we've had in over 2 decades as far as tournament results. But even that couldn't propel us into the top 100.
In 2015 we were #190. One and done in the CAAT and then one and done in a pay-to-play tourney when we were playing a team not even in the top 200.
In 2016 (the best year ranking wise in forever) we ended at #108, but guess what...we got destroyed by W&M in our first game in the CAAT.

So...your point is that we should not have fired Brady because it could be worse? Well, that's true. But again...that's because we went from a medium-low salary coach with previous HC experience to a low salary coach with zero HC experience. And things, as a result, did get worse...and have remained worse.

However, to hold any year of Brady's tenure up like he was doing an amazing job is silly. We never broke the top 100 (only one year were we actually close) and only one year did we win the CAAT (and that was the only year we were close).

But you're right...out of our last several coaches, Brady was the best. Let's not kid ourselves in thinking he was hitting the goals that a university of our size and budget should be reaching. I've also never seen a program lose their top recruit so consistently year after year to transfer.

it is a rather sad state that in the 20+ years since Lefty.......Brady basically a .500 coach, is the best JMU coach over this long, painful period. it is almost like you could not have been this bad over this long of a period even if you had tried.
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(01-02-2019 04:18 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  it is a rather sad state that in the 20+ years since Lefty.......Brady basically a .500 coach, is the best JMU coach over this long, painful period. it is almost like you could not have been this bad over this long of a period even if you had tried.

JMU MBB reminds me a lot of Duke Football in the 1990-2010 era. While no threat to win national titles, they finally got serious about football - hired Cutcliffe, invested money into football center, weight room, reconfigured Wallace Wade Stadium, and so forth. Still, a redheaded step child to MBB though and likely always will be.

JMU MBB has lost 20+ years of student interest that more often than not translates into lack of interest as young alums and continues on unfortunately. UB&TC is a step in the right direction. Now, we need the leadership.
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(01-02-2019 04:32 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 04:18 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  it is a rather sad state that in the 20+ years since Lefty.......Brady basically a .500 coach, is the best JMU coach over this long, painful period. it is almost like you could not have been this bad over this long of a period even if you had tried.

JMU MBB reminds me a lot of Duke Football in the 1990-2010 era. While no threat to win national titles, they finally got serious about football - hired Cutcliffe, invested money into football center, weight room, reconfigured Wallace Wade Stadium, and so forth. Still, a redheaded step child to MBB though and likely always will be.

JMU MBB has lost 20+ years of student interest that more often than not translates into lack of interest as young alums and continues on unfortunately. UB&TC is a step in the right direction. Now, we need the leadership.

The leadership needs to own up to their mistakeS. They have made far too many when it comes to men's basketball. They hit it out of the park with practically every other hire within JMU athletics, but when it comes to Men's basketball they get it wrong over and over again. They don't learn from their mistakes.
They need to literally pay for their mistakes by paying up for a guy to clean up this mess. This isn't going to get fixed by an alum with zero head coaching experience. Gotta go big or go home. The fans aren't going to put with this for much longer.
If they get it wrong yet again, they are better off to just stop funding men's basketball altogether. FCS football isn't holding us back from going FBS... it's men's basketball.
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(01-02-2019 04:11 PM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  
(01-01-2019 07:42 PM)Dukesfan1971 Wrote:  Good points TribePride. But you have to remember the following:

The 2013 title did not count because the CAA was weak
The 2015 regular season title we shared did not count because we did not beat any of the teams we tied with.
In 2016, 11 CAA wins did not count because we had a bunch of non athletic players

And if you look at the above 4 year run, it happened with no new arena on the horizon or cost of attendance. It also happened while the coach’s bosses would tell anybody who would listen that the Coach should have been fired in 2012 and would have been let go in 2013 if he did not win the CAA tournament that did not count.

The six seasons before Brady, our combined CAA record was 21-77
Our current coach’s record in the CAA is 13-25

Go Dukes

#134 in the country. Such a shining example of a season. And sadly, 2013 was the best season we've had in over 2 decades as far as tournament results. But even that couldn't propel us into the top 100.
In 2015 we were #190. One and done in the CAAT and then one and done in a pay-to-play tourney when we were playing a team not even in the top 200.
In 2016 (the best year ranking wise in forever) we ended at #108, but guess what...we got destroyed by W&M in our first game in the CAAT.

So...your point is that we should not have fired Brady because it could be worse? Well, that's true. But again...that's because we went from a medium-low salary coach with previous HC experience to a low salary coach with zero HC experience. And things, as a result, did get worse...and have remained worse.

However, to hold any year of Brady's tenure up like he was doing an amazing job is silly. We never broke the top 100 (only one year were we actually close) and only one year did we win the CAAT (and that was the only year we were close).

But you're right...out of our last several coaches, Brady was the best. Let's not kid ourselves in thinking he was hitting the goals that a university of our size and budget should be reaching. I've also never seen a program lose their top recruit so consistently year after year to transfer.

I agree with you. But I guess my main point was that Matt had a decent 4 year run with no support from his superiors. They were hoping he was gone for 4 years. So they should have let him go in 2012 or supported him through 2016. They did neither and then did not upgrade the Head Coach position.

I am just frustrated like the few and the proud that still care. We have a great fan base, the 2013 crowd at the CAA final was outstanding. We have an awesome band, great new arena on the way, a growing community that would support a good product. I am hoping it suddenly clicks for this years team starting Thursday and that next years class is the greatest recruiting class in JMU history.
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The first tipoff in the new UBTC will also be the first home game for our next MBB coach. HCLR will get one more season, will not meet expectations, and will be let go with one year left on his contract (the JMU MBB way).

Easier to sell the excitement of the new UBTC with a new head coach than trying to sell the 2nd season of a new head coach.
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(01-02-2019 05:51 PM)DRDukes Wrote:  The first tipoff in the new UBTC will also be the first home game for our next MBB coach. HCLR will get one more season, will not meet expectations, and will be let go with one year left on his contract (the JMU MBB way).

Easier to sell the excitement of the new UBTC with a new head coach than trying to sell the 2nd season of a new head coach.

I think Rowe has a 4 year contract so his contract expires after next season.

For me the deciding factor is not only how the Dukes finish wins/losses this season but whether players return going into next season.

I think barring a worse season than last in wins/losses Rowe gets his 4th season. Maybe you force him to bring on a veteran offensive minded assistant in his last make or break year (NIT or NCAA appearance required). If guys return I just don't see the real upside to having a new coach in the last year of the Convo vs. having Rowe in his 4th year. Give him that if the program seems stable off the court and let him finish up (with some talent in tact for 20-21) as the bridge to the new era.

What then needs to happen is for JMU to step up and make a big hire for the new arena- make a splash of some kind. This needs to be a $500K+ commitment to the MBB coach which is long overdue and justified/required based on the cost of the new arena. This has to be an established/proven coach. There are several that would go to JMU and the CAA and usher in a new arena/era for JMU MBB for that compensation package. Use the savings from Football head coach and staff and the buyout from Houston to help finance the higher level of salary for the MBB coach. Make a statement to college hoops that JMU is going to pay closer to the higher end of mid major basketball programs for their Men's coach.
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(01-05-2019 08:35 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  I think Rowe has a 4 year contract so his contract expires after next season.

I thought that too but just looked it up - he has a 5 year contract. My biggest concern is not having a lame duck year - we know how well that worked out last time...
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(01-05-2019 08:35 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 05:51 PM)DRDukes Wrote:  The first tipoff in the new UBTC will also be the first home game for our next MBB coach. HCLR will get one more season, will not meet expectations, and will be let go with one year left on his contract (the JMU MBB way).

Easier to sell the excitement of the new UBTC with a new head coach than trying to sell the 2nd season of a new head coach.

I think Rowe has a 4 year contract so his contract expires after next season.

For me the deciding factor is not only how the Dukes finish wins/losses this season but whether players return going into next season.

I think barring a worse season than last in wins/losses Rowe gets his 4th season. Maybe you force him to bring on a veteran offensive minded assistant in his last make or break year (NIT or NCAA appearance required). If guys return I just don't see the real upside to having a new coach in the last year of the Convo vs. having Rowe in his 4th year. Give him that if the program seems stable off the court and let him finish up (with some talent in tact for 20-21) as the bridge to the new era.

What then needs to happen is for JMU to step up and make a big hire for the new arena- make a splash of some kind. This needs to be a $500K+ commitment to the MBB coach which is long overdue and justified/required based on the cost of the new arena. This has to be an established/proven coach. There are several that would go to JMU and the CAA and usher in a new arena/era for JMU MBB for that compensation package. Use the savings from Football head coach and staff and the buyout from Houston to help finance the higher level of salary for the MBB coach. Make a statement to college hoops that JMU is going to pay closer to the higher end of mid major basketball programs for their Men's coach.

NJ,nice analysis, but what I really want to know is where have you been for the past few weeks? When we are in crisis mode, you can't go crickets on us buddy?04-cheers
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These are the guys I would keep a close eye on an target this year or next if things don't drastically change. Again this will require a $500K level commitment to men's basketball.

These are active low-mid major head coaches who are getting it done in lower conferences with lesser resources

Brian Kennedy NJIT
Mike Jones Radford
Kevin Baggett Rider
Bashir Mason Wagner
Matt McMahon Murray State
Dr. Brett Reed Lehigh
Nathan Davis Bucknell
Bob Richey Furman
Danny Kaspar Texas State- no real connection to the region but it would be ironic for JMU to hire away Tx States basketball coach

Some others to look into that are more of long shots

Keno Davis is doing well at Central Michigan. He previously coached at Providence and Drake before that. He's from Easton PA originally. Maybe he's in play.

Ryan Odom (UMBC) makes around $500K so I'm not sure he would move for the JMU job at comparable pay but it's worth a call.

Andy O'Toole is generally well thought of at Robert Morris. He scores high in advanced metrics. I'm not a huge fan because of the turnstile of transfers and the struggles recently but he's worth investigating as he has a track record and maybe at JMU the kids wouldn't transfer as much.

Wes Miller at UNCG is someone likely ticketed for a bigger jump and the fact that he once transferred from JMU as a player probably makes it even less likely but again worth investigating.

Ron Hunter is a coach who has been rumored for a bigger job for a while but he's 54 and has been at Georgia State for a while. He knows the CAA but likely wouldn't make a lateral move conference and salary wise but again worth kicking the tires on.

Rob Senderoff Kent State- The MAC is a pretty good basketball league and Senderhoff has been there a while. Worth a shot as it worked out well for a CAA team to hire a tenured MAC coach when George Mason hired Larannaga from Bowling Green.

Of the more realistic candidates I like Reed, McMahon, Richey and Davis best. McMahon may be a longer shot because Murray State is a legit mid major hoops program for decades and he really doesn't have ties to the Mid Atlantic region. I'm a big Dr. Brett Reed guy from the last coaching search but he's been at Lehigh a while and is rarely rumored for other jobs so he may be very content there.
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(01-05-2019 09:20 AM)MamaDuke Wrote:  
(01-05-2019 08:35 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  I think Rowe has a 4 year contract so his contract expires after next season.

I thought that too but just looked it up - he has a 5 year contract. My biggest concern is not having a lame duck year - we know how well that worked out last time...

In a way it's actually better that way- his salary is relatively low- if he coaches year 4 but not as a lame duck- you eat year 5- maybe have a heart to heart with him about resigning and staying on as a consultant or in some capacity.
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(01-05-2019 09:35 AM)jmuroadwarrior Wrote:  
(01-05-2019 08:35 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 05:51 PM)DRDukes Wrote:  The first tipoff in the new UBTC will also be the first home game for our next MBB coach. HCLR will get one more season, will not meet expectations, and will be let go with one year left on his contract (the JMU MBB way).

Easier to sell the excitement of the new UBTC with a new head coach than trying to sell the 2nd season of a new head coach.

I think Rowe has a 4 year contract so his contract expires after next season.

For me the deciding factor is not only how the Dukes finish wins/losses this season but whether players return going into next season.

I think barring a worse season than last in wins/losses Rowe gets his 4th season. Maybe you force him to bring on a veteran offensive minded assistant in his last make or break year (NIT or NCAA appearance required). If guys return I just don't see the real upside to having a new coach in the last year of the Convo vs. having Rowe in his 4th year. Give him that if the program seems stable off the court and let him finish up (with some talent in tact for 20-21) as the bridge to the new era.

What then needs to happen is for JMU to step up and make a big hire for the new arena- make a splash of some kind. This needs to be a $500K+ commitment to the MBB coach which is long overdue and justified/required based on the cost of the new arena. This has to be an established/proven coach. There are several that would go to JMU and the CAA and usher in a new arena/era for JMU MBB for that compensation package. Use the savings from Football head coach and staff and the buyout from Houston to help finance the higher level of salary for the MBB coach. Make a statement to college hoops that JMU is going to pay closer to the higher end of mid major basketball programs for their Men's coach.

NJ,nice analysis, but what I really want to know is where have you been for the past few weeks? When we are in crisis mode, you can't go crickets on us buddy?04-cheers

Thanks man- sorry just New Years resolution- less time on the internet kind of stuff. I unfortunately attended both the George Mason and Fordham games. The Fordham game was kind of a low point for me as a Dukes fan but I can't quit the Dukes. I figured as one of Rowe's biggest supporters I owed it to you guys to be present if this whole thing comes crashing down. Either way we will be ok especially relative to where we have been and are which is no where. The big jump has to take place in 20-21. It's the opportunity for JMU MBB to become a factor and the admin has to seize the opportunity.
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(01-05-2019 09:41 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  
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(01-05-2019 08:35 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 05:51 PM)DRDukes Wrote:  The first tipoff in the new UBTC will also be the first home game for our next MBB coach. HCLR will get one more season, will not meet expectations, and will be let go with one year left on his contract (the JMU MBB way).

Easier to sell the excitement of the new UBTC with a new head coach than trying to sell the 2nd season of a new head coach.

I think Rowe has a 4 year contract so his contract expires after next season.

For me the deciding factor is not only how the Dukes finish wins/losses this season but whether players return going into next season.

I think barring a worse season than last in wins/losses Rowe gets his 4th season. Maybe you force him to bring on a veteran offensive minded assistant in his last make or break year (NIT or NCAA appearance required). If guys return I just don't see the real upside to having a new coach in the last year of the Convo vs. having Rowe in his 4th year. Give him that if the program seems stable off the court and let him finish up (with some talent in tact for 20-21) as the bridge to the new era.

What then needs to happen is for JMU to step up and make a big hire for the new arena- make a splash of some kind. This needs to be a $500K+ commitment to the MBB coach which is long overdue and justified/required based on the cost of the new arena. This has to be an established/proven coach. There are several that would go to JMU and the CAA and usher in a new arena/era for JMU MBB for that compensation package. Use the savings from Football head coach and staff and the buyout from Houston to help finance the higher level of salary for the MBB coach. Make a statement to college hoops that JMU is going to pay closer to the higher end of mid major basketball programs for their Men's coach.

NJ,nice analysis, but what I really want to know is where have you been for the past few weeks? When we are in crisis mode, you can't go crickets on us buddy?04-cheers

Thanks man- sorry just New Years resolution- less time on the internet kind of stuff. I unfortunately attended both the George Mason and Fordham games. The Fordham game was kind of a low point for me as a Dukes fan but I can't quit the Dukes. I figured as one of Rowe's biggest supporters I owed it to you guys to be present if this whole thing comes crashing down. Either way we will be ok especially relative to where we have been and are which is no where. The big jump has to take place in 20-21. It's the opportunity for JMU MBB to become a factor and the admin has to seize the opportunity.

I understand and am glad you are OK.
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Rowe must go.
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I have read different threads asking if Rowe signed a four or five year deal. Lou agreed to a 5 year deal paying him $260,000 annually.
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RE: Rowe Must Go.....
(01-02-2019 04:11 PM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  
(01-01-2019 07:42 PM)Dukesfan1971 Wrote:  Good points TribePride. But you have to remember the following:

The 2013 title did not count because the CAA was weak
The 2015 regular season title we shared did not count because we did not beat any of the teams we tied with.
In 2016, 11 CAA wins did not count because we had a bunch of non athletic players

And if you look at the above 4 year run, it happened with no new arena on the horizon or cost of attendance. It also happened while the coach’s bosses would tell anybody who would listen that the Coach should have been fired in 2012 and would have been let go in 2013 if he did not win the CAA tournament that did not count.

The six seasons before Brady, our combined CAA record was 21-77
Our current coach’s record in the CAA is 13-25

Go Dukes

#134 in the country. Such a shining example of a season. And sadly, 2013 was the best season we've had in over 2 decades as far as tournament results. But even that couldn't propel us into the top 100.
In 2015 we were #190. One and done in the CAAT and then one and done in a pay-to-play tourney when we were playing a team not even in the top 200.
In 2016 (the best year ranking wise in forever) we ended at #108, but guess what...we got destroyed by W&M in our first game in the CAAT.

So...your point is that we should not have fired Brady because it could be worse? Well, that's true. But again...that's because we went from a medium-low salary coach with previous HC experience to a low salary coach with zero HC experience. And things, as a result, did get worse...and have remained worse.

However, to hold any year of Brady's tenure up like he was doing an amazing job is silly. We never broke the top 100 (only one year were we actually close) and only one year did we win the CAAT (and that was the only year we were close).

But you're right...out of our last several coaches, Brady was the best. Let's not kid ourselves in thinking he was hitting the goals that a university of our size and budget should be reaching. I've also never seen a program lose their top recruit so consistently year after year to transfer.


That's how I see it. 07-coffee3
02-11-2019 08:32 AM
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RE: Rowe Must Go.....
Brady was our best coach, but keeping him wouldn't have solved the problem. The problem that we constantly have is the inability to hire the right coach for what we need. Some programs can overcome a coach with a lack of head coaching experience by the pieces that are already in place.
We were (and still are) in need of a massive overhaul. Instead of bringing in a coach that has had success in that area, we bring in a guy with zero head coaching experience. It's insane to me that they thought that was the right call to make after the last few decades.
If you had a struggling business, would you give the helm to a guy that had never run a company? Of course you wouldn't because that would be a huge mistake. You would bring in someone that had success in bringing a struggling business (or businesses) out of the mess they were in.
It's clear that the hiring process needs to change. It's clear that they are going to have to spend money to bring in a guy with the experience we need to bring us out of this mess. Rowe is not that guy.
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