(01-03-2019 11:23 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Notice the wall around the Obama's place?

Well you wanted to keep them in there.

(12-31-2018 04:06 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 11:24 PM)fsquid Wrote:  So Mexico is not paying for it?

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Makes a big difference. He's trying to get U.S. taxpayers to pay for it.

(01-03-2019 02:57 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 04:06 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 11:24 PM)fsquid Wrote:  So Mexico is not paying for it?

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Makes a big difference. He's trying to get U.S. taxpayers to pay for it.

Bullshite, it isn't about the money. Money has absolutely nothing to do with why the government is shutdown. It is shut down because the democrats think stopping the wall (and a Trump win) is worth stopping a bunch of their voters from receiving paychecks. $5B is a drop I the bucket. There is no downside in building the wall. Worst case scenario is it doesn't work. We've wasted a lot more on other things that didn't work.

(01-03-2019 03:20 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-03-2019 02:57 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 04:06 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 11:24 PM)fsquid Wrote:  So Mexico is not paying for it?

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Makes a big difference. He's trying to get U.S. taxpayers to pay for it.

Bullshite, it isn't about the money. Money has absolutely nothing to do with why the government is shutdown. It is shut down because the democrats think stopping the wall (and a Trump win) is worth stopping a bunch of their voters from receiving paychecks. $5B is a drop I the bucket. There is no downside in building the wall. Worst case scenario is it doesn't work. We've wasted a lot more on other things that didn't work.

It would be a lot more than $5 billion not even counting maintenance costs for the foreseeable future. And Mexico is supposed to pay for it.

(01-03-2019 02:57 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 04:06 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 11:24 PM)fsquid Wrote:  So Mexico is not paying for it?

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Makes a big difference. He's trying to get U.S. taxpayers to pay for it.

Just curious... during the campaign did anyone really think that Mexico was going to send money to the US to pay for the wall?

Well, apparently so.

But most rational people understand that Mexico will pay for the wall indirectly.

Imagine all the cash that WON'T flow back to Mexico from illegal workers in the US.

Imagine those under-the-table wages all of a sudden showing up on the books and the income tax revenue they'll bring.

There's more than one way to have Mexico "pay for the wall."

Hand cash over like a transaction at the store ain't one of them.

(01-01-2019 12:17 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 08:11 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 06:51 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I have no issue with what Graham says Trump will offer, as long as funding to complete Wall/Fence is included in final legislatively passed agreement.

Graham says Trump open to trade-offs for Border wall funding, if accurate, Trump's position sounds very Reagan like.

Quote:Graham is specifically calling for helping young "Dreamer" immigrants remain in the U.S. as well as another 400,000 people from countries struggling with natural disasters or armed conflicts.
Graham says Trump is receptive to making a deal if it achieves his goal of securing the border.

Art of Deal

I'd compromise and let Dreamers stay in the U.S. However, no citizenship for them unless they graduate college (with a real degree) and at least a 2.75 GPA, get a job and stay at that employer for 5 years.

They should only be allowed to stay in New Mexico. Plenty of space for them there.

Montana, there's nothing there but deer and some antelope playing. LOL

Just put out a poll saying 80% of illegals plan to vote republican. Mexico won’t have to pay for it. Nancy and ChuckU will pay for it themselves.....