(12-31-2018 02:08 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 01:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 12:28 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 11:07 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 08:46 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I actually don't think it matters who 3 and 4 were this particular season. 1 and 2 are just that much better than everyone else.

I think Georgia would have given either Alabama or Clemson a run for their playoff money, but yes, nobody else.

Georgia shouldn't have lost twice and they could have possibly done that.

That's easy for a Clemson fan to say, as you guys didn't face those challenges. Think Georgia might be in the playoffs had they played Pitt in their CCG, like you did?

We can't control what the rest of the ACC does. If the SEC is too tough for UGA they should leave while there's no exit fee.

Pitt just lost to Stanford in the Sun Bowl.

No, you can't help what the rest of the ACC does, but you can keep quiet about another team failing to meet challenges that your weak schedule didn't require you to meet.

(12-31-2018 02:08 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 01:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 12:28 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 11:07 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 08:46 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I actually don't think it matters who 3 and 4 were this particular season. 1 and 2 are just that much better than everyone else.

I think Georgia would have given either Alabama or Clemson a run for their playoff money, but yes, nobody else.

Georgia shouldn't have lost twice and they could have possibly done that.

That's easy for a Clemson fan to say, as you guys didn't face those challenges. Think Georgia might be in the playoffs had they played Pitt in their CCG, like you did?

We can't control what the rest of the ACC does. If the SEC is too tough for UGA they should leave while there's no exit fee.

What a idiotic thing to say. Georgia won the East and damn near beat Alabama. And there is no exit fee in the SEC but there is a GOR.

Typical Clemson angst over Georgia getting stronger and cutting some of your recruits. You know that you've feasted with a week Tennessee, an even weaker South Carolina, and with Georgia being bogged down in mediocrity.

As Tennessee strengthens and Georgia gets stronger that advantage is going to shrink. So you are trying to low rate your main competition for recruits in the area and you know that the revenue difference is going to become a factor.

Your insecurity shows in these remarks Kap. And these comments should really be beneath you because you have enough football sense to know better.

Founding members don't leave their conference, oh wait, unless it is the ACC.

(12-31-2018 05:37 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 02:08 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 01:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 12:28 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 11:07 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I think Georgia would have given either Alabama or Clemson a run for their playoff money, but yes, nobody else.

Georgia shouldn't have lost twice and they could have possibly done that.

That's easy for a Clemson fan to say, as you guys didn't face those challenges. Think Georgia might be in the playoffs had they played Pitt in their CCG, like you did?

We can't control what the rest of the ACC does. If the SEC is too tough for UGA they should leave while there's no exit fee.

Pitt just lost to Stanford in the Sun Bowl.

No, you can't help what the rest of the ACC does, but you can keep quiet about another team failing to meet challenges that your weak schedule didn't require you to meet.

They play in the friggin SEC Least and have dysfunctional Auburn as their permanent crossover and played absolutely nobody OOC. Let's not act like they are playing in the AFC South with the first place schedule.

If I need to keep quiet then you need to quit posting because your garbage team got their **** pushed in in some second rate pre-Christmas bowl in their home stadium.

(12-31-2018 05:35 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 02:06 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 01:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 12:28 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 11:07 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I think Georgia would have given either Alabama or Clemson a run for their playoff money, but yes, nobody else.

Georgia shouldn't have lost twice and they could have possibly done that.

That's easy for a Clemson fan to say, as you guys didn't face those challenges. Think Georgia might be in the playoffs had they played Pitt in their CCG, like you did?

They would've been. It's also true that they probably would've gotten in over Oklahoma if they didn't lose to LSU. Say what you will about Clemson (and Notre Dame for that matter) but they took care of business during the regular season.

But ... if my business is easy and yours is hard, i shouldn't admonish you about not taking care of yours.

Schedules matter in college football, but so do wins and losses. It may not be right, but even an SEC school like Georgia can't afford two. Doesn't mean they're not one of the top four teams in college football (I think they'd beat ND and OU for sure with a good chance against Clemson), but that's what happens when you let a committee make completely subjective decisions over what is and isn't a CFP-worthy school.

That's one off the reasons I want college football to adopt a computer-exclusive ratings system that determines the CFP participants and seeding, like the Pairwise in college hockey. Don't let conference bias, loss bias, G5 bias, etc. creep in, yeah any formula isn't perfect but if it's transparent at least teams know what standards they need to meet to get in.

I hope folks understand that the old BCS formula would have spit out the EXACT SAME Matchups as what we had for the 5th straight year.

(12-31-2018 06:28 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 05:37 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 02:08 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 01:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 12:28 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Georgia shouldn't have lost twice and they could have possibly done that.

That's easy for a Clemson fan to say, as you guys didn't face those challenges. Think Georgia might be in the playoffs had they played Pitt in their CCG, like you did?

We can't control what the rest of the ACC does. If the SEC is too tough for UGA they should leave while there's no exit fee.

Pitt just lost to Stanford in the Sun Bowl.

No, you can't help what the rest of the ACC does, but you can keep quiet about another team failing to meet challenges that your weak schedule didn't require you to meet.

They play in the friggin SEC Least and have dysfunctional Auburn as their permanent crossover and played absolutely nobody OOC. Let's not act like they are playing in the AFC South with the first place schedule.

If I need to keep quiet then you need to quit posting because your garbage team got their **** pushed in in some second rate pre-Christmas bowl in their home stadium.

Yeah dysfunctional Auburn has won 56 times, Georgai 59 and there have been 8 ties. Do you want to get into the over the top butt whipping record of Auburn against your Clemson team? Hell it was so bad we used to play you for homecoming (34-15-2). Georgia is on par with your butts right now. And your blonde headed Fabian may wind up looking like a peeled orange against Alabama.

You ran over a sorry South Carolina and were lucky to get out of College Station with a 2 point win. Other than that your schedule was pathetic. The truth is Kaplony nobody has a clue if Clemson is all of that and bag of chips or has just been flying under the cover of a putrid schedule.

You woofing about this means you fear that the latter would be true. Otherwise you would be behaving and waiting for the big game confident in a win over the Tide.

(12-31-2018 06:38 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I hope folks understand that the old BCS formula would have spit out the EXACT SAME Matchups as what we had for the 5th straight year.

Right, because one of the constants in either composite is some human polling or scaling? If your team is ranked highly throughout the season, what a surprise that a composite model does, too. It’s really the same stuff at the core. Now the transparency isn’t as evident, but the results are the same pretty much.

I’m still lost on Wisconsin from last year, floating near the top through a bad schedule, getting a quality opponent in the thirteenth game, something the future champion didn’t have, and losing that game doing enough to drop them down. At the same time, Alabama’s lone blemish took another loss, its third, but that somehow propelling Alabama’s metrics? Is it because Wisconsin wasn’t a top fixture in the polls throughout the season?

Alabama was a good squad last year, but the metrics to shove them upon this championship...never quite lined up. Nevermind UCF or Wisky...it was suspect in 2016 with Ohio State, and the same with the Tide. The system was lucky Bama validated the selection, but, again, don’t understand the logic behind the math.

(12-31-2018 06:47 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 06:28 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 05:37 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 02:08 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 01:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  That's easy for a Clemson fan to say, as you guys didn't face those challenges. Think Georgia might be in the playoffs had they played Pitt in their CCG, like you did?

We can't control what the rest of the ACC does. If the SEC is too tough for UGA they should leave while there's no exit fee.

Pitt just lost to Stanford in the Sun Bowl.

No, you can't help what the rest of the ACC does, but you can keep quiet about another team failing to meet challenges that your weak schedule didn't require you to meet.

They play in the friggin SEC Least and have dysfunctional Auburn as their permanent crossover and played absolutely nobody OOC. Let's not act like they are playing in the AFC South with the first place schedule.

If I need to keep quiet then you need to quit posting because your garbage team got their **** pushed in in some second rate pre-Christmas bowl in their home stadium.

Yeah dysfunctional Auburn has won 56 times, Georgai 59 and there have been 8 ties. Do you want to get into the over the top butt whipping record of Auburn against your Clemson team? Hell it was so bad we used to play you for homecoming (34-15-2). Georgia is on par with your butts right now. And your blonde headed Fabian may wind up looking like a peeled orange against Alabama.

You ran over a sorry South Carolina and were lucky to get out of College Station with a 2 point win. Other than that your schedule was pathetic. The truth is Kaplony nobody has a clue if Clemson is all of that and bag of chips or has just been flying under the cover of a putrid schedule.

You woofing about this means you fear that the latter would be true. Otherwise you would be behaving and waiting for the big game confident in a win over the Tide.

Jr, with all due respect nobody gives a damn about what happened in the 60's& 70's and it's been a long damn time since Auburn beat Clemson. Meanwhile y'all are stuck with a coach your fanbase hates and we are prepping for our third national title game in four years with a loaded roster coming back next year too. Happy New Year!

Clemson is legit. They shut down a very efficient Notre Dame offense and their “Fabian” QB doesn’t get rattled; he got drilled more than a few times and kept his poise.

Also, Clemson has the best defensive coordinator in college football. I can’t wait for the title game, it’ll be a heavyweight bout.

(12-31-2018 07:34 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 06:47 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 06:28 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 05:37 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-31-2018 02:08 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  We can't control what the rest of the ACC does. If the SEC is too tough for UGA they should leave while there's no exit fee.

Pitt just lost to Stanford in the Sun Bowl.

No, you can't help what the rest of the ACC does, but you can keep quiet about another team failing to meet challenges that your weak schedule didn't require you to meet.

They play in the friggin SEC Least and have dysfunctional Auburn as their permanent crossover and played absolutely nobody OOC. Let's not act like they are playing in the AFC South with the first place schedule.

If I need to keep quiet then you need to quit posting because your garbage team got their **** pushed in in some second rate pre-Christmas bowl in their home stadium.

Yeah dysfunctional Auburn has won 56 times, Georgai 59 and there have been 8 ties. Do you want to get into the over the top butt whipping record of Auburn against your Clemson team? Hell it was so bad we used to play you for homecoming (34-15-2). Georgia is on par with your butts right now. And your blonde headed Fabian may wind up looking like a peeled orange against Alabama.

You ran over a sorry South Carolina and were lucky to get out of College Station with a 2 point win. Other than that your schedule was pathetic. The truth is Kaplony nobody has a clue if Clemson is all of that and bag of chips or has just been flying under the cover of a putrid schedule.

You woofing about this means you fear that the latter would be true. Otherwise you would be behaving and waiting for the big game confident in a win over the Tide.

Jr, with all due respect nobody gives a damn about what happened in the 60's& 70's and it's been a long damn time since Auburn beat Clemson. Meanwhile y'all are stuck with a coach your fanbase hates and we are prepping for our third national title game in four years with a loaded roster coming back next year too. Happy New Year!

With all due respect Kap a record is a record and "all glory is fleeting." Enjoy it while you can. Have a Happy New Year as well!