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ODU vs Herd
Now we start the games that truly matter. I love that the Herd play UVA before coming to the Ted. Hopefully, our pretentious brethren from Cville knock the starch out of them before they show up in Norfolk. And then we can round out their trip to the Old Dominion.
12-25-2018 09:41 PM
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Actually I'm hoping they knock the starch out of UVA before coming to the Ted. But not expecting it.
12-26-2018 10:50 AM
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The UVa.-ODU combo ought to drive high-octane Marshall crazy. You'll take your 50-ish points and like it, pal!
12-26-2018 12:38 PM
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Hmm, I find myself thinking Marshall may have been very clever here. A marque game (UVA) that most everyone will figure they will lose big. If they do better than a blowout it will be considered a win by many and most of their fans. The clever part is they get a game against the nation's toughest defensive team right before ODU. Pretty good prep session to prepare them to go on the road for a C-USA game against another team that is serious about defense in a game with major implications for the regular season championship. Of course, maybe I am overthinking it.
12-26-2018 04:05 PM
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(12-26-2018 04:05 PM)ETSUDB8-79 Wrote:  Hmm, I find myself thinking Marshall may have been very clever here. A marque game (UVA) that most everyone will figure they will lose big. If they do better than a blowout it will be considered a win by many and most of their fans. The clever part is they get a game against the nation's toughest defensive team right before ODU. Pretty good prep session to prepare them to go on the road for a C-USA game against another team that is serious about defense in a game with major implications for the regular season championship. Of course, maybe I am overthinking it.

If this were W&M, but this is Marshall, from WVA 05-stirthepot
12-26-2018 04:14 PM
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(12-26-2018 04:14 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(12-26-2018 04:05 PM)ETSUDB8-79 Wrote:  Hmm, I find myself thinking Marshall may have been very clever here. A marque game (UVA) that most everyone will figure they will lose big. If they do better than a blowout it will be considered a win by many and most of their fans. The clever part is they get a game against the nation's toughest defensive team right before ODU. Pretty good prep session to prepare them to go on the road for a C-USA game against another team that is serious about defense in a game with major implications for the regular season championship. Of course, maybe I am overthinking it.

If this were W&M, but this is Marshall, from WVA 05-stirthepot

LOL
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Classes don't begin until Jan 12. I have a feeling our attendance is going to be a bit disappointing for this stretch of Marshall and WKU despite how critical it is.
12-28-2018 07:20 AM
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(12-28-2018 07:20 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Classes don't begin until Jan 12. I have a feeling our attendance is going to be a bit disappointing for this stretch of Marshall and WKU despite how critical it is.

Agree - hopefully the fans step up in their stead.
12-28-2018 09:45 AM
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(12-28-2018 09:45 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  
(12-28-2018 07:20 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Classes don't begin until Jan 12. I have a feeling our attendance is going to be a bit disappointing for this stretch of Marshall and WKU despite how critical it is.

Agree - hopefully the fans step up in their stead.

ODU needs to go in to high gear marketing the next two games. Something along the lines of both games for $20. If we are fortunate enough to win against the thundering turd, then a prime time Saturday game against western should be sold out and rocking at the same level as a feces game (minus the feces fans).
12-28-2018 09:51 PM
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Elmore, Burks, and Watson (all guards) - they are our key match-ups - vs Ahmad, BJ, X, and J Wade. We should clean up the boards; I like our chances if the turds shoot 35% or under from the field.
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(12-28-2018 10:14 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  Elmore, Burks, and Watson (all guards) - they are our key match-ups - vs Ahmad, BJ, X, and J Wade. We should clean up the boards; I like our chances if the turds shoot 35% or under from the field.

Elmore is a stud! This will be the toughest defensive assignment probably all year for X.
12-29-2018 07:19 AM
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(12-29-2018 07:19 AM)JJMonarch Wrote:  
(12-28-2018 10:14 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  Elmore, Burks, and Watson (all guards) - they are our key match-ups - vs Ahmad, BJ, X, and J Wade. We should clean up the boards; I like our chances if the turds shoot 35% or under from the field.

Elmore is a stud! This will be the toughest defensive assignment probably all year for X.

X is (so far) this season's most under-appreciated player. St. Joe's and perhaps the first No. Ia. games are the only disappointing outings for him that I can recall.

Elmore is going to be a whole 'nother level challenge -- partly from a talent standpoint but also partly from a theatrics standpoint. X. has a habit of hanging his head or looking noticeably dismayed when a call goes against him. That's likely to happen a lot with Elmore.

I'm not at all qualified to advise our coaching staff, but I wonder if Ahmad isn't the better choice for defending Elmore, and assign X to Burks.
12-29-2018 08:07 AM
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(12-26-2018 10:50 AM)FearTheLion Wrote:  Actually I'm hoping they knock the starch out of UVA before coming to the Ted. But not expecting it.

I am with you!

I always prefer that our employee candidates have the highest credentials before we welcome them aboard.

(And if they beat UVA, they may be emotionally spent making our task easier)
12-29-2018 01:47 PM
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(12-29-2018 07:19 AM)JJMonarch Wrote:  
(12-28-2018 10:14 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  Elmore, Burks, and Watson (all guards) - they are our key match-ups - vs Ahmad, BJ, X, and J Wade. We should clean up the boards; I like our chances if the turds shoot 35% or under from the field.

Elmore is a stud! This will be the toughest defensive assignment probably all year for X.

Elmore is the most overrated player in the conference. Decent player but stats are boosted by pace. Battle from Syracuse is much better.
12-29-2018 02:18 PM
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Green is an incredible defender. Not a whole lot of difference between Burks and Elmore so no issue which he guards

Actually wouldnt be against zone vs them to eliminate dribble penetration.
12-29-2018 02:20 PM
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(12-29-2018 02:18 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(12-29-2018 07:19 AM)JJMonarch Wrote:  
(12-28-2018 10:14 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  Elmore, Burks, and Watson (all guards) - they are our key match-ups - vs Ahmad, BJ, X, and J Wade. We should clean up the boards; I like our chances if the turds shoot 35% or under from the field.

Elmore is a stud! This will be the toughest defensive assignment probably all year for X.

Elmore is the most overrated player in the conference. Decent player but stats are boosted by pace. Battle from Syracuse is much better.

I hope you are correct about Elmore being overrated but I disagree. The times I have seen him , he looks pretty darn good. Burke is no slouch either but I would think X's length might give Elmore more problems than Caver would.
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RE: ODU vs Herd
Per 100 possessions:

Elmore- 25 FGA, 29 points, 7 rebounds, 7 assists
Burks- 22 FGA, 28 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists
Stith- 26 FGA, 33 points, 16 rebounds, 2 assists
Caver- 24 FGA, 30 points, 7 rebounds, 9 assists

Burks and Stith are a little more efficient than Elmore/Caver. Stith and Caver actually play defense as well
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(12-29-2018 06:08 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Per 100 possessions:

Elmore- 25 FGA, 29 points, 7 rebounds, 7 assists
Burks- 22 FGA, 28 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists
Stith- 26 FGA, 33 points, 16 rebounds, 2 assists
Caver- 24 FGA, 30 points, 7 rebounds, 9 assists

Burks and Stith are a little more efficient than Elmore/Caver. Stith and Caver actually play defense as well

I didn't say he was better than Stith or Caver. I said Elmore was a stud. They are studs as well but Elmore is pretty darn good and I wouldn't call him overrated, but that's just my opinion. You are certainly free to have yours.
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(12-29-2018 07:15 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  
(12-29-2018 06:08 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Per 100 possessions:

Elmore- 25 FGA, 29 points, 7 rebounds, 7 assists
Burks- 22 FGA, 28 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists
Stith- 26 FGA, 33 points, 16 rebounds, 2 assists
Caver- 24 FGA, 30 points, 7 rebounds, 9 assists

Burks and Stith are a little more efficient than Elmore/Caver. Stith and Caver actually play defense as well

I didn't say he was better than Stith or Caver. I said Elmore was a stud. They are studs as well but Elmore is pretty darn good and I wouldn't call him overrated, but that's just my opinion. You are certainly free to have yours.

I only say that bc most people think hes the best player in conference and should be POY
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Isn't Elmore projected to be a draft pick?

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