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Where does this go
UTEP rolled by Norfolk State. That is all.

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(12-21-2018 11:25 PM)Beans N Cornbread Wrote:  UTEP rolled by Norfolk State. That is all.

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What's funny is that Norfolk State also beat UTEP in the opening round of the Sun Bowl Invitational four years ago. Maybe find someone else to be a tomato can?
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Don’t forget Rice lost to Omaha, UAB lost to Troy and MTSU lost to Ole Miss. Conference USA basketball is a joke. Nothing is getting better.
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Ole Miss is 55 in Kenpom and Troy is 165.
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(12-21-2018 11:49 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(12-21-2018 11:25 PM)Beans N Cornbread Wrote:  UTEP rolled by Norfolk State. That is all.

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What's funny is that Norfolk State also beat UTEP in the opening round of the Sun Bowl Invitational four years ago. Maybe find someone else to be a tomato can?


That’s no unexpected (unfortunately). Didn’t we smack UTEP BY nearly 50 points last year?


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The sad part is that all of these teams will start playing lights out in January.
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(12-22-2018 12:21 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  Don’t forget Rice lost to Omaha, UAB lost to Troy and MTSU lost to Ole Miss. Conference USA basketball is a joke. Nothing is getting better.

Conference rpi ratings to date:
CUSA 12
A10 14
CAA 18

Can’t look at one week. If you want a joke league CAA basketball is really bad. It could always be worse, we could still be in the CAA
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(12-22-2018 08:46 AM)north beach monarch Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 12:21 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  Don’t forget Rice lost to Omaha, UAB lost to Troy and MTSU lost to Ole Miss. Conference USA basketball is a joke. Nothing is getting better.

Conference rpi ratings to date:
CUSA 12
A10 14
CAA 18

Can’t look at one week. If you want a joke league CAA basketball is really bad. It could always be worse, we could still be in the CAA

Truth, it's actually one of the better years for CUSA.
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(12-22-2018 08:46 AM)north beach monarch Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 12:21 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  Don’t forget Rice lost to Omaha, UAB lost to Troy and MTSU lost to Ole Miss. Conference USA basketball is a joke. Nothing is getting better.

Conference rpi ratings to date:
CUSA 12
A10 14
CAA 18

Can’t look at one week. If you want a joke league CAA basketball is really bad. It could always be worse, we could still be in the CAA

Agreed. But all those games should have been Ws except for MTSU. It’s always one step forward and one step back. We are in a league where teams don’t care about any other sports but football.
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I think CUSA is something like 45-0 this season against Non-D1 schools.

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(12-22-2018 11:30 AM)The Flagship Wrote:  I think CUSA is something like 45-0 this season against Non-D1 schools.

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The league needs to call out teams that are playing Non D1 teams. This is getting ridiculous
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(12-22-2018 11:15 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 08:46 AM)north beach monarch Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 12:21 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  Don’t forget Rice lost to Omaha, UAB lost to Troy and MTSU lost to Ole Miss. Conference USA basketball is a joke. Nothing is getting better.

Conference rpi ratings to date:
CUSA 12
A10 14
CAA 18

Can’t look at one week. If you want a joke league CAA basketball is really bad. It could always be worse, we could still be in the CAA

Agreed. But all those games should have been Ws except for MTSU. It’s always one step forward and one step back. We are in a league where teams don’t care about any other sports but football.

They care about basketball as much as most other mid major conferences. This year is a big step up
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(12-22-2018 11:35 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 11:30 AM)The Flagship Wrote:  I think CUSA is something like 45-0 this season against Non-D1 schools.

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The league needs to call out teams that are playing Non D1 teams. This is getting ridiculous

But then north Texas wouldn’t have a good record to brag about. 03-shhhh
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(12-22-2018 11:37 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 11:15 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 08:46 AM)north beach monarch Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 12:21 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  Don’t forget Rice lost to Omaha, UAB lost to Troy and MTSU lost to Ole Miss. Conference USA basketball is a joke. Nothing is getting better.

Conference rpi ratings to date:
CUSA 12
A10 14
CAA 18

Can’t look at one week. If you want a joke league CAA basketball is really bad. It could always be worse, we could still be in the CAA

Agreed. But all those games should have been Ws except for MTSU. It’s always one step forward and one step back. We are in a league where teams don’t care about any other sports but football.

They care about basketball as much as most other mid major conferences. This year is a big step up

Enabling poor performances is part of the problem. How can you not see that these are the losses that constantly prevent C-USA from ever being a multi bid league.
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Agreed there needs to be a rule against playing non D1 during the regular season. How it's allowed is beyond me, let alone having multiple non D1 in the same year. That's just embarrassing but like someone said nobody cares. Put someone from 350+ on the schedule for all I care as long as they are D1.

Luckily this conference ooc doesn't get attention anyway so no one knows how many of our mates play non D1...

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(12-22-2018 11:43 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 11:37 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 11:15 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 08:46 AM)north beach monarch Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 12:21 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  Don’t forget Rice lost to Omaha, UAB lost to Troy and MTSU lost to Ole Miss. Conference USA basketball is a joke. Nothing is getting better.

Conference rpi ratings to date:
CUSA 12
A10 14
CAA 18

Can’t look at one week. If you want a joke league CAA basketball is really bad. It could always be worse, we could still be in the CAA

Agreed. But all those games should have been Ws except for MTSU. It’s always one step forward and one step back. We are in a league where teams don’t care about any other sports but football.

They care about basketball as much as most other mid major conferences. This year is a big step up

Enabling poor performances is part of the problem. How can you not see that these are the losses that constantly prevent C-USA from ever being a multi bid league.

Lol, there there is anything they can do about it. The days of multi-bid mid major conferences are few and far between
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(12-22-2018 12:19 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 11:43 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 11:37 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 11:15 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(12-22-2018 08:46 AM)north beach monarch Wrote:  Conference rpi ratings to date:
CUSA 12
A10 14
CAA 18

Can’t look at one week. If you want a joke league CAA basketball is really bad. It could always be worse, we could still be in the CAA

Agreed. But all those games should have been Ws except for MTSU. It’s always one step forward and one step back. We are in a league where teams don’t care about any other sports but football.

They care about basketball as much as most other mid major conferences. This year is a big step up

Enabling poor performances is part of the problem. How can you not see that these are the losses that constantly prevent C-USA from ever being a multi bid league.

Lol, there there is anything they can do about it. The days of multi-bid mid major conferences are few and far between

IMO our final 10 years or so in the CAA were the halcyon days of multiple bids for “mid-major” conferences.
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I thought non D1 teams didn’t count in RPI. So in theory. A loss in a D2 game hurts less than a loss to a MEAC team.
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If you're looking for a culprit in the explosion of non-D1 schools on D1 schedules, blame the NCAA. Or to be more precise, blame the metrics they use to rate teams. The RPI, and now the NET, treat games against non-D1 opponents as though they don't exist, meaning they have a null effect on a team's rating. But wins against lower-level D1s often have a negative effect, which makes the non-D1 games less harmful, which shouldn't be the case.

Put it this way: ODU plays Morgan State today. While nobody will confuse Morgan State with a good win, it's not the worst team the Monarchs will play this season (hell, they beat Navy by 24 while ODU beat Navy by 23, and they also beat Towson and had George Mason down in the second half). But because of their low NET rating (249), this game may well hurt ODU even if the Monarchs win. Meanwhile, ODU could play (and lose to) Virginia Wesleyan, Newport News Apprentice, Mid-Atlantic Christian or Regent and it wouldn't do any damage to their numbers whatsoever.

And it's not just CUSA. Just today, Davidson — one of the A-10's best teams — defeated Central Penn. Hofstra is playing something called Rosemont. Schools in the WCC, Mountain West, MAC and MVC had non-D1 games on their schedule this season. And not just D2s, but D3s, NAIA, and sub-NAIA programs. Regent, in its first full year of intercollegiate sports, has played D1 schools in men's and women's basketball. Regent doesn't even have a dedicated site for their athletic department and you can't find their schedules anywhere, but the men have already played NSU, Hampton and Howard.

The answer would appear to be either giving non-D1 opponents some sort of score that makes it less beneficial to play them than any D1 opponent, or reworking the system so that all D1 games give you some sort of benefit versus playing a non-D1 or not playing at all. Otherwise, you're incentivizing teams to avoid potential NET landmines by scheduling dollar-store tomato cans.
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(12-22-2018 11:30 AM)The Flagship Wrote:  I think CUSA is something like 45-0 this season against Non-D1 schools.

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No. I think UTSA lost one.

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