2017 - Ala vs FSU - 12.560 ABC
2016 - Ole Miss vs FSU - 8.354 ESPN
2013 - UGA vs Clem - 8.140 ABC
2018 - Miami vs LSU - 6.553 ABC
2016 - Fla vs FSU - 6.437 ABC
2014 - Fla vs FSU - 5.960 ESPN
2016 - VT vs Tenn - 5.790 ABC
2017 - Tenn vs GT - 5.270 ESPN
2013 - Ala vs VT - 5.170 ESPN
2016 - Clem vs Aub - 4.742 ESPN
2013 - Fla vs Miami - 4.600 ESPN
2018 - UL vs Ala - 4.540 ABC
2018 - Clemson vs TAMU - 4.486 ESPN
2015 - FSU vs Fla - 4.280 ESPN
2017 - Clem vs SoCar - 4.032 ESPN
2015 - UL vs Aub - 4.010 CBS
2014 - Clem vs UGA - 3.950 ESPN
2013 - UNC vs So Caro - 3.650 ESPN
2015 - UNC vs So Caro - 3.601 ESPN
2013 - UGA vs GT - 3.530 ABC
2016 - UGA vs UNC - 3.529 ESPN
2017 - Aub vs Clem - 3.504 ESPN
2018 - So Caro vs Clem - 3.261 ESPN
2015 - LSU vs SU - 3.204 ESPN
2013 - FSU vs Fla - 3.150 ESPN
2013 - Clem vs So Caro - 3.140 ESPN2
2015 - Clem vs So Caro - 2.943 ESPN
2017 - UGA vs GT - 2.766 ABC
2016 - So Caro vs Clem - 2.656 ESPN
2018 - Fla vs FSU - 2.380 ABC
2017 - FSU vs Fla - 2.056 ESPN
2014 - So Caro vs Clem - 2.020 ESPN
2016 - UK vs UL - 1.564 ESPN
2017 - NCST vs So Caro - 1.560 ESPN
2017 - SU vs LSU - 1.060 ESPN2
2015 - UGA vs GT - 1.023 ESPN2
2018 - UK vs UL - 0.844 ESPN2
2014 - UK vs UL - 0.809 ESPN2

38 games - 151.124 million viewers total - 3.977 average

The data for the annual ACC-SEC match-ups is as follows:

FSU-Fla - 24.263 million viewers total - 4.044 average (6 games)
Clem-So Caro - 18.052 million viewers total - 3.009 average (6 games)
GT-UGA - 7.319 million viewers total - 2.440 average (3 games)*
UL-UK - 3.217 million viewers total - 1.072 average (3 games)*

*When game played at SEC site, these games have been shown on SECN which is not nationally metered.

I suspect once the ACCN is up and running the same thing will happen with UL-UK when played in Louisville but not sure if the same will hold true with GT-UGA, especially if one or both are good.

Otherwise, make of the data what you will.

Cheers,
Neil

(12-21-2018 01:36 AM)OrangeDude Wrote:  2017 - Ala vs FSU - 12.560 ABC
2016 - Ole Miss vs FSU - 8.354 ESPN
2013 - UGA vs Clem - 8.140 ABC
2018 - Miami vs LSU - 6.553 ABC
2016 - Fla vs FSU - 6.437 ABC
2014 - Fla vs FSU - 5.960 ESPN
2016 - VT vs Tenn - 5.790 ABC
2017 - Tenn vs GT - 5.270 ESPN
2013 - Ala vs VT - 5.170 ESPN
2016 - Clem vs Aub - 4.742 ESPN
2013 - Fla vs Miami - 4.600 ESPN
2018 - UL vs Ala - 4.540 ABC
2018 - Clemson vs TAMU - 4.486 ESPN
2015 - FSU vs Fla - 4.280 ESPN
2017 - Clem vs SoCar - 4.032 ESPN
2015 - UL vs Aub - 4.010 CBS
2014 - Clem vs UGA - 3.950 ESPN
2013 - UNC vs So Caro - 3.650 ESPN
2015 - UNC vs So Caro - 3.601 ESPN
2013 - UGA vs GT - 3.530 ABC
2016 - UGA vs UNC - 3.529 ESPN
2017 - Aub vs Clem - 3.504 ESPN
2018 - So Caro vs Clem - 3.261 ESPN
2015 - LSU vs SU - 3.204 ESPN
2013 - FSU vs Fla - 3.150 ESPN
2013 - Clem vs So Caro - 3.140 ESPN2
2015 - Clem vs So Caro - 2.943 ESPN
2017 - UGA vs GT - 2.766 ABC
2016 - So Caro vs Clem - 2.656 ESPN
2018 - Fla vs FSU - 2.380 ABC
2017 - FSU vs Fla - 2.056 ESPN
2014 - So Caro vs Clem - 2.020 ESPN
2016 - UK vs UL - 1.564 ESPN
2017 - NCST vs So Caro - 1.560 ESPN
2017 - SU vs LSU - 1.060 ESPN2
2015 - UGA vs GT - 1.023 ESPN2
2018 - UK vs UL - 0.844 ESPN2
2014 - UK vs UL - 0.809 ESPN2

...make of the data what you will.

Cheers,
Neil

OK, I've bolded the rarely-played games, and I'm thinking pent-up demand for these games is real - if you go some years without playing and then finally meet up, lots of people (relative to your team's norm, at least) will watch it. Seems like a simple formula...

What you might see in the "new order":

The traditional games FSU/Florida, Ga/GT, Clemson/SC, UL/KY may be put on a "rotation". Maybe played only 2 out of 3 years with a substitute thrown in for ratings. Maybe FSU plays Alabama once every three years in lieu of Florida and Miami takes the Florida game that year. The third year Clemson plays Georgia and Carolina gets South Carolina that year, etc.
Alabama might get a regular rotation of FSU, Virginia Tech and Louisville, Tennessee might get a regular rotation of Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech (on their off year from Georgia), and Carolina/NC State.
Notre Dame might even get in on the action with a scheduled SEC game (they added Georgia and have Alabama on a future schedule).
These rotations could be planned years in advance, used a neutral site games if necessary, and take advantage of crossover scheduling.

Just a thought.

ACC REALLY needs to allow for a cupcake for games prior to SEC games for those playing annually.

FSU is very poorly managed (weak athletic dept) and just not smart enough to fight for this. FSU playing BC this year before UF. Stupid. Stupid for FSU and the ACC.

I know these are bowl games, but GT fans usually like GT vs SEC Matchups...
2013
GT VS OLE Miss
TV Viewers 3.12M

2014
GT VS Miss ST
TV Viewers: 8.94M

Link
https://www.forbes.com/sites/prishe/2015...1d175f8f6c

2016
GT vs Kentucky
TV Viewers: 2.65 million

Link
http://collegesports.blog.statesman.com/...-17-games/

(12-22-2018 08:24 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  I know these are bowl games, but GT fans usually like GT vs SEC Matchups...

GT VS Miss ST
TV Viewers: 8.94 million

Link
https://www.forbes.com/sites/prishe/2015...1d175f8f6c

2016
GT vs Kentucky
TV Viewers: 2.65 million

Link
http://collegesports.blog.statesman.com/...-17-games/

Watching as an outsider, I thought 2014 was such a special year for GT, especially those last 4 games, vs Clemson, @ UGA (winning in OT), vs FSU in the ACCCG (losing a close game), and then taking care of the Bulldogs in the Orange Bowl.

Hope Collins works out for you guys.

Cheers,
Neil

(12-22-2018 08:24 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  I know these are bowl games, but GT fans usually like GT vs SEC Matchups...

GT VS Miss ST
TV Viewers: 8.94 million

Link
https://www.forbes.com/sites/prishe/2015...1d175f8f6c

2016
GT vs Kentucky
TV Viewers: 2.65 million

Link
http://collegesports.blog.statesman.com/...-17-games/

Exactly my point. The ACC must find a way to incorporate high profile SEC games into our scheduling.
The teams that have SEC annual games plus Notre Dame every three years would have a difficult time adding a high profile SEC game under the current playoff scenario, as it reduce their chances to make the playoffs.
One solution is to limit the number of rivalry contests. Is it good business to replace a contest with 3 million viewers with one that could attract 8 million? Would limiting the number of times Jawja played GT make it a more desirable contest for TV?

FWIW Georgia Tech Football TV Ratings 2012 to 2017 (Do Not have 2018 data yet)(NO SECN, ACC Extra/ESPN3 or RSN Data)
(Data from various sources, including ESPN, Sports Business Daily, Son of the Bronx, and TV By the Numbers)
Link: http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2012/12/...is-season/

2012
Mon, 9/03/12 GT VS VT.............ESPN Viewers 4.3M - Battle of the Techs Rivalry
Sat., 10/06/12 GT vs Clemson......ESPN Viewers 1.4M - Crossover Rivalry
Sat., 11/17/12 GT vs Duke..........ESPNU Viewers 192K
Sat., 11/24/12 GT VS UGA .........ESPN Viewers 2.3M - COFH Rivalry
Sat., 12/1/12 GT vs FSU...........ESPN Viewers 2.0M - ACCCG

SUN Bowl
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2013/01/...he-charts/
Mon., 12/31/12 GT vs USC........CBS Viewers 4.0M....(Note 2011 Sun Bowl with GT vs Utah had 4.1M Viewers)

2013
Sat., 09/12/13 GT vs Duke..........ESPNU Viewers 161K
Sat., 09/21/13 GT vs UNC...........ESPN Viewers 2.33M
Thu., 09/26/13 GT vs VT.............ESPN Viewers 2.31M - Battle of the Techs Rivalry
Sat., 10/05/13 GT vs Miami.........ESPNU Viewers 857K
Sat., 10/12/13 GT vs BYU............ESPNU Viewers 358K
Sat., 11/02/13 GT vs Pitt.............ESPNU Viewers 362K
Thu., 11/14/13 GT vs Clemson.....ESPN Viewers 2.06M - Crossover Rivalry
Sat., 11/30/13 GT vs UGA...........ABC Viewers 3.53M - COFH Rivalry

Music City Bowl
Mon, 12/30/13 GT VS OLE Miss....ESPN Viewers 3.12M

2014
Sat., 9/06/14 GT vs Tulane.............ESPNews Viewers 304K
Sat, 9/19/14 GT VS VT...................ESPN Viewers 3.14M- Battle of the Techs Rivalry
Sat, 10/03/14 GT vs Miami.............ESPN2 Viewers 1.13K
Sat, 10/18/14 GT vs UNC...............ESPNU Viewers 461K
Sat, 10/25/14 GT vs PITT...............ESPNU Viewers 352K
Sat, 11/15/14 GT VS Clemson.........ESPN Viewers 1.81M - Crossover Rivalry
Sat, 12/06/14 GT VS FSU...............ABC Viewers 10.15M - ACCCG

Orange Bowl
Sat, 12/31/14 GT VS Miss St..........ESPN Viewers 8.94M

2015
Sat., 9/19/15 GT vs Notre Dame.........NBC Viewers 3.7M
Sat., 9/26/15 GT vs Duke..................ESPN2 Viewers 775K
Sat, 10/3/15 GT vs UNC....................ESPNU Viewers 386K
Sat, 10/10/15 GT vs Clemson............RM/ABC Viewers 706K - Crossover Rivalry
Sat., 10/24/15 GT vs FSU..................ESPN2 Viewers 1.934M
Sat., 11/12/15 GT vs VT....................ESPN Viewers 1.527M - Battle of the Techs Rivalry
Sat., 11/28/15 GT vs UGA.................ESPN2 Viewers 1.023M - COFH Rivalry

2016
Sat., 9/3/16 GT vs BC................ESPN2 Viewers 682K
Thu, 9/22/16 GT vs Clemson.......ESPN Viewers 1.813M - Crossover Rivalry
Sat, 10/1/16 GT vs Miami...........ESPN2 Viewers 1.04M
Sat., 11/12/16 GT vs VT.............ESPNU Viewers 377K - Battle of the Techs Rivalry

Gator Bowl
Sat., 12/31/16 GT vs Kentucky.....ESPN Viewers 2.647M

2017
Mon., 9/4/17 GT vs Tenn.............ESPN Viewers 5.268M
Sat., 9/30/17 GT vs UNC.............ESPN2 Viewers 578K
Sat., 10/14/17 GT vs Miami.........ABC Viewers 3.441M
Sat., 10/21/17 GT vs Wake.........ESPNU Viewers 200K
Sat., 10/28/17 GT vs Clemson.....RM/ABC Viewers 3.464M - Crossover Rivalry
Sat., 11/25/17 GT vs UGA...........ABC Viewers 2.766M - COFH Rivalry