Volente Beach Owl
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RE: 2019 Rice Baseball Way Too Early Preview & Thought Starter
(01-20-2019 04:31 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: (01-20-2019 02:57 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote: (01-20-2019 01:57 PM)mysticman Wrote: When we won the CWS when Janish played SS. We hade zero depth and zero back ups for any position players. And we won the CWS. You never know.
Zero depth and zero backups? That is simply not true.
That team had 4 outfielders who hit over .300 for the season, all of which made All-WAC First Team. Sounds like at least some (not zero) back-up & depth.
Yes, that statement was demonstrably false. In addition to the 4 quality OFers, both Ueckert and Pendleton were 2-way players, and each played some OF and DH. In the infield, Blackinton saw significant action.
Pendleton batted under .200 that season and Ueckert had 12 hits - all of which were singles. Both developed into nice players later in their careers. I agree with the statement that the team had very little depth during that particular season (2003). There was absolutely no infield depth at all. Depth being defined as backups with playing experience and production.
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RE: 2019 Rice Baseball Way Too Early Preview & Thought Starter
(01-20-2019 11:28 PM)Volente Beach Owl Wrote: (01-20-2019 04:31 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: (01-20-2019 02:57 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote: (01-20-2019 01:57 PM)mysticman Wrote: When we won the CWS when Janish played SS. We hade zero depth and zero back ups for any position players. And we won the CWS. You never know.
Zero depth and zero backups? That is simply not true.
That team had 4 outfielders who hit over .300 for the season, all of which made All-WAC First Team. Sounds like at least some (not zero) back-up & depth.
Yes, that statement was demonstrably false. In addition to the 4 quality OFers, both Ueckert and Pendleton were 2-way players, and each played some OF and DH. In the infield, Blackinton saw significant action.
Pendleton batted under .200 that season and Ueckert had 12 hits - all of which were singles. Both developed into nice players later in their careers. I agree with the statement that the team had very little depth during that particular season (2003). There was absolutely no infield depth at all. Depth being defined as backups with playing experience and production.
Very little depth wasn’t the statement. Zero depth was the statement and I’ve already provided why I that is just not true.
For the record, the 4 .300+ hitting, All-WAC First Team outfielders to whom I was referring were Davis, Kolkhorst, Bubela and Jorgenson.
(This post was last modified: 01-21-2019 12:15 AM by Tomball Owl.)
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RE: 2019 Rice Baseball Way Too Early Preview & Thought Starter
(01-20-2019 11:28 PM)Volente Beach Owl Wrote: (01-20-2019 04:31 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: (01-20-2019 02:57 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote: (01-20-2019 01:57 PM)mysticman Wrote: When we won the CWS when Janish played SS. We hade zero depth and zero back ups for any position players. And we won the CWS. You never know.
Zero depth and zero backups? That is simply not true.
That team had 4 outfielders who hit over .300 for the season, all of which made All-WAC First Team. Sounds like at least some (not zero) back-up & depth.
Yes, that statement was demonstrably false. In addition to the 4 quality OFers, both Ueckert and Pendleton were 2-way players, and each played some OF and DH. In the infield, Blackinton saw significant action.
Pendleton batted under .200 that season and Ueckert had 12 hits - all of which were singles. Both developed into nice players later in their careers. I agree with the statement that the team had very little depth during that particular season (2003). There was absolutely no infield depth at all. Depth being defined as backups with playing experience and production.
Please tell me what college baseball teams have significant depth based on that definition? You'd be lucky to find one or two programs max each year that satisfy your definition of depth. If your starters stay healthy, and you have a lineup of quality starters, you're not going to have backups with experience and production....by definition.
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RE: 2019 Rice Baseball Way Too Early Preview & Thought Starter
Just to expose this silly little argument: How many times did the fourth outfielder serve as the DH?
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RE: 2019 Rice Baseball Way Too Early Preview & Thought Starter
(01-21-2019 09:16 AM)Volente Beach Owl Wrote: Just to expose this silly little argument: How many times did the fourth outfielder serve as the DH?
Again, what does that prove? As I posted above, if the starting 8 position players remain healthy throughout much of the season, it would be impossible for anyone else on the roster to gain the experience and production you require in your definition of depth...and per your previous comments about Ueckert and Pendleton, who's to say how they would have produced if they got regular ABs, rather than were used sparingly?
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RE: 2019 Rice Baseball Way Too Early Preview & Thought Starter
Does anyone know what's the story with Raul Garcia? He's not listed among the pitchers slated to throw during this weekend's first three intrasquads. Is he still nursing a sore arm?
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I heard from a reliable source that he's still on the shelf.
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01-23-2019 10:55 AM |
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RE: 2019 Rice Baseball Way Too Early Preview & Thought Starter
Anybody knows what Coach Graham is up to this year? Will he be consulting at Texas again?
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01-23-2019 10:10 PM |
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RE: 2019 Rice Baseball Way Too Early Preview & Thought Starter
Here's the full preseason CUSA baseball poll...
file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/2019_Preseason_Poll.pdf
Canterino selected as Pitcher of the Year, with Wallner as Player of the Year. No other Rice player made the preseason all-conference team. Moss not getting a starting pitcher nod over USM's Powell and Powers is a real headscratcher as his across-the-board stats blow away the other two.
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RE: 2019 Rice Baseball Way Too Early Preview & Thought Starter
(01-23-2019 10:55 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: I heard from a reliable source that he's still on the shelf.
He's having surgery Tuesday. Out for the season. Not sure if it's Tommy John or elbow.
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RE: 2019 Rice Baseball Way Too Early Preview & Thought Starter
(01-24-2019 05:28 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: Here's the full preseason CUSA baseball poll...
file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/2019_Preseason_Poll.pdf
Canterino selected as Pitcher of the Year, with Wallner as Player of the Year. No other Rice player made the preseason all-conference team. Moss not getting a starting pitcher nod over USM's Powell and Powers is a real headscratcher as his across-the-board stats blow away the other two.
Except in W-L. Moss was 2-4 last year (a hard luck 2-4, but still 2-4). Powell was 7-3 and Powers was 5-2.
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RE: 2019 Rice Baseball Way Too Early Preview & Thought Starter
(01-24-2019 11:03 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: (01-24-2019 05:28 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote: Here's the full preseason CUSA baseball poll...
file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/2019_Preseason_Poll.pdf
Canterino selected as Pitcher of the Year, with Wallner as Player of the Year. No other Rice player made the preseason all-conference team. Moss not getting a starting pitcher nod over USM's Powell and Powers is a real headscratcher as his across-the-board stats blow away the other two.
Except in W-L. Moss was 2-4 last year (a hard luck 2-4, but still 2-4). Powell was 7-3 and Powers was 5-2.
Yes, Addison got no virtually no run support and the bullpen blew half a dozen games in which he left with a lead. Conversely, USM offense averaged almost 9 runs per game. Moss had far superior numbers in ERA, WHIP, BAA, strikeouts and K:BB ratio. Didn't the Met's DeGrom win the NL Cy Young in a landslide this past year despite winning just 10 games and posting a 10-9 record?
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RE: 2019 Rice Baseball Way Too Early Preview & Thought Starter
(01-24-2019 10:58 PM)bobreinhold1 Wrote: (01-23-2019 10:55 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: I heard from a reliable source that he's still on the shelf.
He's having surgery Tuesday. Out for the season. Not sure if it's Tommy John or elbow.
Tough luck for Raul, but as I've said from beginning, I viewed him more as a wild card this year than a critical cog.
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RE: 2019 Rice Baseball Way Too Early Preview & Thought Starter
Anyone making it out to the ballpark this weekend? Always exciting to see the first few squad games.
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(01-25-2019 10:16 AM)RiceOwl Wrote: Anyone making it out to the ballpark this weekend? Always exciting to see the first few squad games.
With Dunlap, DiCap and Edwards back in fold, Bragga may finally be able to run a true two-squad intrasquad this Spring, rather than have rotating sets of batters facing pitchers.
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RE: 2019 Rice Baseball Way Too Early Preview & Thought Starter
It's not 2019 or Rice related but the Round Rock Express announced yesterday they're hosting a college baseball tournament at its park beginning in 2020. The 4 teams invited that year are Texas Tech, Houston, Tennessee and Stanford.
It seems like the Astros tournament is getting some in-state competition.
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RE: 2019 Rice Baseball Way Too Early Preview & Thought Starter
(02-12-2019 06:41 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: It's not 2019 or Rice related but the Round Rock Express announced yesterday they're hosting a college baseball tournament at its park beginning in 2020. The 4 teams invited that year are Texas Tech, Houston, Tennessee and Stanford.
It seems like the Astros tournament is getting some in-state competition.
There’s also the Corpus Christi tournament, now called the Kleberg Bank College Classic:
https://www.milb.com/corpus-christi/tick...ge-classic
The biggest competition of all might come when the Rangers open their roofed stadium.
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RE: 2019 Rice Baseball Way Too Early Preview & Thought Starter
(02-12-2019 06:41 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: It's not 2019 or Rice related but the Round Rock Express announced yesterday they're hosting a college baseball tournament at its park beginning in 2020. The 4 teams invited that year are Texas Tech, Houston, Tennessee and Stanford.
It seems like the Astros tournament is getting some in-state competition.
Interesting. RR Express are an Astros affiliate.
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