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(01-08-2019 02:35 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 01:32 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 11:12 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 10:05 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  The offensive game plan for next year is heavy on the run and RPO. Utilizing LaLa and Knight and the running abilities of Smartt or Williams. The key is whether Scott can turn around the OL, which they are very confident about.

As stated above, I am cautiously optimistic because of a potential upgraded in strength and conditioning.
However, we only have one JUCO so far coming in on the OL.
With the understanding that OL is perhaps the most difficult position to recruit, but IMHO is the single most important position on the offense, I will just throw this out there.

2019 incoming:
Teagan McDonald 2 star recruit, 2 FCS offers
Austin Mosier 2 star Center FCS offer from Elon
Brandon Ruff 2 star. No offers
Brandon Smith JUCO FBS offer from South Alabama and 4 FCS olffers

2018 returning:
Tony Barnett Jr 2 star(Fork Union)
Diego Cervantes 2 star So JUCO Center
Jack Hassard 2 star Fr
Andrew Lawson 2 star So
Jayce Mallory unranked So.
Jack Miller III 2 star RFR
Cameron Muller 2 star RFR 1 FBS offer from Ga State 3 FCS offers
Elijah Rivers 2 star RFR
Nick Saldiveri 2star FR 1 FCS offer (Richmond)
Nathan Thacker unranked RFR
Leroy Thomas unranked Fr
Isaac Weaver 2 star So. 1 FBS offer Ga State 2 FCS offers
Kyle Young unranked Fr

Whether you like star rankings or not, Marshall and MTSU, FIU, FAU and even UAB (those are the only ones I looked at) have multiple 3 stars on their OLs, and more importantly, those players had multiple FBS offers.
Granted that some ODU players may have committed quickly and might have otherwise gotten offers, but the fact is, out of 17 current and future OLinemen, none are rated above a 2 star, and only 2 had other FBS offers, both from Ga State.
It would appear that to bring this O Line up to a competitive FBS level within the upper tier of own conference will likely be a herculean task.

07-coffee3

*(The above based on the most current ODU roster and the profiles from 247 which sometimes are incorrect or have omissions, as well as my own clerical errors)

Its certainly incorrect. Not going through every player, but Weaver had an offer from FIU. He was 250 in high school, which is why he was not highly rated. Intended up being a steal.

Im not sure on Saldiveri. He had strong interest from ACC but, Im not sure if any offers came.

OK, I double checked every player on Rivals. There were no rating discrepancies, However, as you noted, Weaver did indeed have an offer from FIU and additionally Coastal Carolina as well. He also had 5 FCS offers.
Cameron Muller had an offer from Coastal Carolina in addition to the one from Ga State.
Nathan Thacker had an offer from Army.
That changes the total from two to three of 17 that had FBS offers.
The only significant difference is Weaver's FBS profile, and that begs the question as to why he was not more effective in 2018.
The above small changes otherwise are not significant enough to change my original premise.


If our O-Line is not dramatically improved, the the RPO will fail.
If our O-Line is not dramatically better, our rushing attack will fail.

If our O-Line is not dramatically better, then odufansam's and MonarchBlue's predictions of:
(01-08-2019 08:44 AM)odufansam Wrote:  We always start the season wanting to be run oriented, realize we don't have the offensive line required to run, and then end the season more balanced / pass heavy. Apparently Brian Scott doesn't learn his lesson. It's personnel and scheme. If you want to be run first, you have to deal with at least 8 guys in the box.

(01-08-2019 09:06 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Seems we hear that every offseason, then realize after a couple awful games early that the only way we can move the ball is to throw it 40 times a game.
will come to fruition, this time without any QB that can scramble and extend plays, a la TH, DW, and BL to bail us out.

And, we haven't yet even addressed the Center position.05-stirthepot

Isn't the JUCO Smartt a scrambler?
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RE: Transfers
(01-09-2019 09:58 AM)VB Monarch Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 02:35 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 01:32 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 11:12 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 10:05 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  The offensive game plan for next year is heavy on the run and RPO. Utilizing LaLa and Knight and the running abilities of Smartt or Williams. The key is whether Scott can turn around the OL, which they are very confident about.

As stated above, I am cautiously optimistic because of a potential upgraded in strength and conditioning.
However, we only have one JUCO so far coming in on the OL.
With the understanding that OL is perhaps the most difficult position to recruit, but IMHO is the single most important position on the offense, I will just throw this out there.

2019 incoming:
Teagan McDonald 2 star recruit, 2 FCS offers
Austin Mosier 2 star Center FCS offer from Elon
Brandon Ruff 2 star. No offers
Brandon Smith JUCO FBS offer from South Alabama and 4 FCS olffers

2018 returning:
Tony Barnett Jr 2 star(Fork Union)
Diego Cervantes 2 star So JUCO Center
Jack Hassard 2 star Fr
Andrew Lawson 2 star So
Jayce Mallory unranked So.
Jack Miller III 2 star RFR
Cameron Muller 2 star RFR 1 FBS offer from Ga State 3 FCS offers
Elijah Rivers 2 star RFR
Nick Saldiveri 2star FR 1 FCS offer (Richmond)
Nathan Thacker unranked RFR
Leroy Thomas unranked Fr
Isaac Weaver 2 star So. 1 FBS offer Ga State 2 FCS offers
Kyle Young unranked Fr

Whether you like star rankings or not, Marshall and MTSU, FIU, FAU and even UAB (those are the only ones I looked at) have multiple 3 stars on their OLs, and more importantly, those players had multiple FBS offers.
Granted that some ODU players may have committed quickly and might have otherwise gotten offers, but the fact is, out of 17 current and future OLinemen, none are rated above a 2 star, and only 2 had other FBS offers, both from Ga State.
It would appear that to bring this O Line up to a competitive FBS level within the upper tier of own conference will likely be a herculean task.

07-coffee3

*(The above based on the most current ODU roster and the profiles from 247 which sometimes are incorrect or have omissions, as well as my own clerical errors)

Its certainly incorrect. Not going through every player, but Weaver had an offer from FIU. He was 250 in high school, which is why he was not highly rated. Intended up being a steal.

Im not sure on Saldiveri. He had strong interest from ACC but, Im not sure if any offers came.

OK, I double checked every player on Rivals. There were no rating discrepancies, However, as you noted, Weaver did indeed have an offer from FIU and additionally Coastal Carolina as well. He also had 5 FCS offers.
Cameron Muller had an offer from Coastal Carolina in addition to the one from Ga State.
Nathan Thacker had an offer from Army.
That changes the total from two to three of 17 that had FBS offers.
The only significant difference is Weaver's FBS profile, and that begs the question as to why he was not more effective in 2018.
The above small changes otherwise are not significant enough to change my original premise.


If our O-Line is not dramatically improved, the the RPO will fail.
If our O-Line is not dramatically better, our rushing attack will fail.

If our O-Line is not dramatically better, then odufansam's and MonarchBlue's predictions of:
(01-08-2019 08:44 AM)odufansam Wrote:  We always start the season wanting to be run oriented, realize we don't have the offensive line required to run, and then end the season more balanced / pass heavy. Apparently Brian Scott doesn't learn his lesson. It's personnel and scheme. If you want to be run first, you have to deal with at least 8 guys in the box.

(01-08-2019 09:06 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Seems we hear that every offseason, then realize after a couple awful games early that the only way we can move the ball is to throw it 40 times a game.
will come to fruition, this time without any QB that can scramble and extend plays, a la TH, DW, and BL to bail us out.

And, we haven't yet even addressed the Center position.05-stirthepot

Isn't the JUCO Smartt a scrambler?

I am am not sure.
He is certainly a gifted runner, but his motif seems to be to get rid of the ball very quickly, or tuck and run vertically.

He is very similar in style to Steven Williams, but looks to be a more slippery runner and a far more accurate passer when throwing while running forward; keeping in mind we only see SS going against junior college competition, and those are highlights.

From available films, I don't see any inclination to run around waiting for a receiver to open up on a broken or extended play.
That doesn't mean he can't, but his instincts don't seem to support that.

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/11189342/5c...137c53d643
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Watched his highlights. This kid has a cannon. Never saw any cross the middle or flairs, just bombs. Understanding these are highs with no lows, I have to think he's the favorite for starting next year.
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He doesn't look that fast to me. More like Cam Newton in style. Big strong kid, more of a straight line runner. He does look durable enough to run some read option stuff, though.
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(01-09-2019 11:30 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  He doesn't look that fast to me. More like Cam Newton in style. Big strong kid, more of a straight line runner. He does look durable enough to run some read option stuff, though.

Not saying he won't be a good QB for us but if he doesn't look fast against that talent how is he going to look against D1 talent ? We need to take a wait and see approach.
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(01-09-2019 12:40 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 11:30 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  He doesn't look that fast to me. More like Cam Newton in style. Big strong kid, more of a straight line runner. He does look durable enough to run some read option stuff, though.

Not saying he won't be a good QB for us but if he doesn't look fast against that talent how is he going to look against D1 talent ? We need to take a wait and see approach.

Or maybe he's a thrower and not a runner
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Eric Magwood has a tweets imply saying Norfolk. Anyone have any scoop about him maybe staying?
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(01-09-2019 05:49 PM)VB Monarch Wrote:  Eric Magwood has a tweets imply saying Norfolk. Anyone have any scoop about him maybe staying?

I looked and he's definitely saying Peace (out) Norfolk. Check out the subtweets, some of his teammates are wishing him luck. He gone.

https://twitter.com/Magwooody/status/108...10049?s=19
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(01-09-2019 05:49 PM)VB Monarch Wrote:  Eric Magwood has a tweets imply saying Norfolk. Anyone have any scoop about him maybe staying?

It doesn’t “State” anything else?
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(01-09-2019 05:58 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 05:49 PM)VB Monarch Wrote:  Eric Magwood has a tweets imply saying Norfolk. Anyone have any scoop about him maybe staying?

I looked and he's definitely saying Peace (out) Norfolk. Check out the subtweets, some of his teammates are wishing him luck. He gone.

https://twitter.com/Magwooody/status/108...10049?s=19

Got it. Need to learn how to read deeper tweets
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Not an ODU transfer but there are rumors that Jalen Hurts, late of Alabama, may be heading to FAU to pay for Kiffin. Be cool to see him in Norfolk next year if that happens.
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(01-10-2019 08:42 AM)djnva Wrote:  Not an ODU transfer but there are rumors that Jalen Hurts, late of Alabama, may be heading to FAU to pay for Kiffin. Be cool to see him in Norfolk next year if that happens.

That will never happen
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(01-10-2019 08:46 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(01-10-2019 08:42 AM)djnva Wrote:  Not an ODU transfer but there are rumors that Jalen Hurts, late of Alabama, may be heading to FAU to pay for Kiffin. Be cool to see him in Norfolk next year if that happens.

That will never happen

I wouldn't say never. Kiffin was who recruited him to Bama
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(01-09-2019 12:40 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 11:30 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  He doesn't look that fast to me. More like Cam Newton in style. Big strong kid, more of a straight line runner. He does look durable enough to run some read option stuff, though.

Not saying he won't be a good QB for us but if he doesn't look fast against that talent how is he going to look against D1 talent ? We need to take a wait and see approach.

I didn't say I didn't think he looked fast against that talent. My judgement was based on our competition.
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(01-10-2019 09:05 AM)Punk Wrote:  
(01-10-2019 08:46 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(01-10-2019 08:42 AM)djnva Wrote:  Not an ODU transfer but there are rumors that Jalen Hurts, late of Alabama, may be heading to FAU to pay for Kiffin. Be cool to see him in Norfolk next year if that happens.

That will never happen

I wouldn't say never. Kiffin was who recruited him to Bama

Exactly. Wouldn't surprise me in the least.
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Hurts is following less than 300 accounts on Twitter and three of them are the Miami coach and two players. So that might be a good leading indicator.
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hmm how can we gain access to the transfer portal? 07-coffee3
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(01-10-2019 10:47 AM)AimHigh Wrote:  hmm how can we gain access to the transfer portal? 07-coffee3

Probably need a NCAA ID #.
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