(12-19-2018 11:32 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Can't pile on NIU when the MAC overall has been performing so poorly in bowl season over the years. And it's not like we're playing P5s. It's mostly peer CUSA and SB teams.

That's not to say we light it up in September OOC, but we tend to perform better in those early season games. Not sure why. Are the northern guys more 'in awe' of the experience (warm weather, touristy stuff, etc.) whereas the southern players are more focused?

That might be it. How did the MAC do in the bowl game they used to have in Detroit?

Actually the MAC's record has been pretty poor in Detroit as well, particularly after 2006. Although 8 of the 15 games were against a P5/former BCS opponent (at the time). Only current MAC members shown below, did not include Marshall.

Motor/Pizza/Quick Lane
4-11 record

2001: Toledo over Cincinnati
2002: Boston College over Toledo
2003: BGSU over Northwestern
2004: UConn over Toledo
2005: Memphis over Akron
2006: CMU over MTSU
2007: Purdue over CMU
2008: FAU over CMU
2009: Marshall over Ohio
2010: FIU over Toledo
2011: Purdue over WMU
2012: CMU over WKU
2013: Pittsburgh over BGSU
2015: Minnesota over CMU
2017: Duke over NIU

December 26, 1997 Mississippi 34 Marshall 31
December 23, 1998 Marshall 48 Louisville 29
December 27, 1999 #11 Marshall 21 BYU 3
December 27, 2000 Marshall 25 Cincinnati 14
December 29, 2001 #25 Toledo 23 Cincinnati 16
December 26, 2002 Boston College 51 Toledo 25
December 26, 2003 Bowling Green 28 Northwestern 24
December 27, 2004 Connecticut 39 Toledo 10
December 26, 2005 Memphis 38 Akron 31
December 26, 2006 Central Michigan 31 Middle Tennessee 14
December 26, 2007 Purdue 51 Central Michigan 48
December 26, 2008 Florida Atlantic 24 Central Michigan 21
December 26, 2009 Marshall 21 Ohio 17
December 26, 2010 FIU 34 Toledo 32
December 27, 2011 Purdue 37 Western Michigan 32
December 26, 2012 Central Michigan 24 Western Kentucky 21
December 26, 2013 Pittsburgh 30 Bowling Green 27

Looks like the MAC went 7-10 when it was the Little Caesars Pizza Bowl (counting Marshall's wins as a MAC school).

(12-19-2018 01:03 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  December 26, 2007 Purdue 51 Central Michigan 48 (3 points)
December 26, 2008 Florida Atlantic 24 Central Michigan 21 (3 points)
December 26, 2009 Marshall 21 Ohio 17 (4 points)
December 26, 2010 FIU 34 Toledo 32 (2 points)
December 27, 2011 Purdue 37 Western Michigan 32 (5 points)

Five consecutive 1-possession losses from 2007-2011.

(12-19-2018 01:03 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Looks like the MAC went 7-10 when it was the Little Caesars Pizza Bowl (counting Marshall's wins as a MAC school.

Hey, that was the Motor City Bowl for most of those years!

(12-19-2018 05:22 PM)MacLord Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 01:03 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Looks like the MAC went 7-10 when it was the Little Caesars Pizza Bowl (counting Marshall's wins as a MAC school.

Hey, that was the Motor City Bowl for most of those years!

That's true! But the Little Caesar's Pizza Bowl is a funnier name.

I was actually at the first iteration of the Pizza Bowl back in 2009 when the Bobcats took on the Herd.

(12-19-2018 05:32 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 05:22 PM)MacLord Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 01:03 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Looks like the MAC went 7-10 when it was the Little Caesars Pizza Bowl (counting Marshall's wins as a MAC school.

Hey, that was the Motor City Bowl for most of those years!

That's true! But the Little Caesar's Pizza Bowl is a funnier name.

I was actually at the first iteration of the Pizza Bowl back in 2009 when the Bobcats took on the Herd.

i was there, too! ugh...i cried all the way home to Westerville after that one.

OU bringing it tonight in a rainy Frisco.

Sweet flea-flicker TD for OU.

Barring a late collapse, Ohio again representing the MAC well in a bowl.

Like how Ohio is crushing sds

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(08-20-2017 03:38 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(08-20-2017 03:11 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  I think all subsidies should be phased out or capped at say 1:1 or 2:1 with donations. And I think students should vote on their athletic fees, and their votes honored. And I think officials should be accountable for redirection of funds and a ratio report should be issued for every school. (This applies to public schools, privates can do as they please, since it's not tax payer money)

Ohio, Illinois, Michigan are all big offenders.

Among FBS schools UMass and EMU are by far the worst offenders. Several MAC schools are offenders as well, though not on the same level. $100M transferred in 5 years is very serious money, as is $40M in student fees. That could have paid for the expansion of the school by 1000 students to attend free, or as many as 4-5,000 without subsidies (probably a middle number of 2-3,000 additional students in the UMass system is the true cost). Effectively over 1/3rd of the foundation fund raising has to offset the drain athletics is on the school. Think what could have been built with $100M, what research (and student participation value in that) could have been done. That is called lost opportunity cost.

The fundamental truth is UMass football supporters are welfare recipients. They pay $1 for every $14 of tax payer money to support their habit.

I take it you would like to see UMASS drop football?
On another note, I wonder why CBS-SN or even ESPN didn't pick up this game? There's only a few games this weekend and it features two state schools (Hawaii vs Massachusetts) I think people would tune in.

It's all about exposure. Sign a deal for one game or go with the best regional network in the area. Hell Hawaii needed 7 games for their ppv deal. At this point it's about exposure . We need to learn how to win. Let's see how we do Saturday.

Ps we'll only loss one starter next year. Last year we were one of the youngest teams.

(12-19-2018 10:39 PM)Steve1981 Wrote:  Like how Ohio is crushing sds.

The shot about UMass is so bogus. We have 10 million improvements and 6 million is via two donations.


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Shutout!

Kudos to the Bobcats.

Can we have Solich coach us for bowl games?

Congrats on a strong finish to the year Bobcats!

Ohio shuts out San Diego State 27-0.

That's Ohio's second consecutive bowl victory, and also the MAC's first win over SDSU (The Aztecs were 13-0-1 against the MAC prior to tonight).

This was also the first meeting between the Bobcats and the Aztecs.

(12-19-2018 10:57 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Shutout!

Kudos to the Bobcats.

Thanks! Good luck against BYU on Friday!

Way-To-Go O-HI-O !!

Fantastic win, Cats!

O-H.... (the REAL O-H-I-O)!

Usually Ohio has its opponent knocked out of there by the 2nd with a 31 point quarter.

SDSU has a Top 25 scoring defense and hung in there tough into the second half.

A tough team that I have to give credit for not rolling over.