Well lets just say JMU owns multiple houses in H'burg and puts up coaches, professors, faculty, and others all the time sometimes rent free, sometime for rent. Its one of the JMU's way of engaging the best talent to move the university forward. If the person living in the JMU owned house decides to become a permanent part of the H'burg, and JMU community then they move out and buy their own place here. I see this all the time. Seems like JMU owns most of the housing that is directly connect to JMU real property, and they buy up the ones that come on the market every time. It's part of expanding the JMU real property footprint on bordering property's. Just look at what happened along Main St from MLK Blvd. to Port Rd.

I heard he never even downloaded the Chipotle app or started a Jack Brown's notch list. What a fraud!

(12-14-2018 12:40 AM)Dukes1825 Wrote:  

(12-14-2018 12:08 AM)Purple Wrote:  

(12-13-2018 11:40 PM)MrMultiplex Wrote:  One of the dumbest threads ever.

What is dumb about it? Given real estate appreciation, it would make sense for any coach planning to stick around, you know, like signing a ten-year contract, to buy a house. If he rented instead, it pretty much proves his self-proclaimed love for JMU was bullsh!t. His intentions were to bolt as soon as the right opportunity came along. It just proves how not real he was.

Why do posters here have to always be critical of other posters here? Forgive me for asking a question that lends evidence to what many of us thought, that from the day Houston got here, he knew he was just passing through and all of the things he said about staying here and what a great place to raise a family, etc, were just lies.

He passed through and brought us a national championship and two appearances overall in three seasons. Best pass through we’ve had and best pass through we may ever have. Enjoy it for what it was. Who cares if he didn’t buy a house.

You totally missed my point.

(12-14-2018 07:48 AM)formerjmusprinter84 Wrote:  Does anyone know if he leased or owned his cars? New thread for that? LOL

House was probably "free" as part of his package. Whats a few thousand dollars a month in the scheme of things when making $500K and up? Even if he was renting, that "proves" nothing.

You also totally missed my point.

(12-14-2018 08:57 AM)POTUS#4 Wrote:  I heard he never even downloaded the Chipotle app or started a Jack Brown's notch list. What a fraud!

Shame... A man that didn't think he would drink 100 beers in a couple years..

It is taking every bit of willpower I have not to start similar threads. I can't believe this continues to trend at the top of the threads.

(12-14-2018 01:09 PM)Dukester Wrote:  It is taking every bit of willpower I have not to start similar threads. I can't believe this continues to trend at the top of the threads.

Houston's crib is hot! Enquiring minds want to know.

Basically, I was just looking for an answer to the question whether or not Houston had built a million-dollar house, as someone said in another thread. The reason I wanted to know that was because some here believe that Houston was a boy scout, totally ethical and all that. Others believe he was just a job-hopping gold digger.

Houston told us that he was here for the long haul, that the Valley was a wonderful place to raise his family, etc. Was that the truth? Apparently not, or he would have bought or built a house here as Mickey did. That's my opinion.

So, to answer the question, "Was Houston an upstanding boy scout or was he a gold-digging, job-hopping liar?" Evidence suggests the latter.

That was the only reason I started the thread, and boy, do I regret it!

Now, let's talk about something besides Houston's house. I know! How about we discuss how bad the Wabbits are going to kick some buffalo ass tonight and Bison fans will be crying that it's all Klieman's fault for having his head in Kansas and they were playing injured because Stick was on his period, yada, yada?

(12-14-2018 02:17 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Does anyone really care?

So he rented a house. Zippity-do-dads.

Logic serves that someone else must own the place, right? So why are they renting it out instead of living there?

Hmmmmmm.

JMU fired a coach for living in Charlottesville and not conforming to the Temple of Madison. This **** matters in the bubble of purple. Does Cignetti drive a truck or a ******* lexus?

(12-14-2018 07:02 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(12-14-2018 02:17 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Does anyone really care?

So he rented a house. Zippity-do-dads.

Logic serves that someone else must own the place, right? So why are they renting it out instead of living there?

Hmmmmmm.

JMU fired a coach for living in Charlottesville and not conforming to the Temple of Madison. This **** matters in the bubble of purple. Does Cignetti drive a truck or a ******* lexus?

I forgot about this.

I don't care where the coach lives. Just have your team play it's best in big games, and don't lose your players each year and I'll be happy. Although arguably you could say Lou is somewhat doing that, so maybe that is not enough.

(12-14-2018 07:02 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(12-14-2018 02:17 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Does anyone really care?

So he rented a house. Zippity-do-dads.

Logic serves that someone else must own the place, right? So why are they renting it out instead of living there?

Hmmmmmm.

JMU fired a coach for living in Charlottesville and not conforming to the Temple of Madison. This **** matters in the bubble of purple. Does Cignetti drive a truck or a ******* lexus?

Must have missed this one. Who was it?

Matt Rhule bought a $2M house before he left for Baylor. Means nothing.

(12-14-2018 01:35 PM)Purple Wrote:  Houston told us that he was here for the long haul, that the Valley was a wonderful place to raise his family, etc. Was that the truth? Apparently not, or he would have bought or built a house here as Mickey did. That's my opinion.

As an outsider, you can have truths in there. He was there for the long haul, that was his intention. But like anyone, if a better opportunity presents itself with a massive raise, you have to look at it, regardless of feelings. He very well can still believe its a wonderful place to raise his family, that has nothing to do with moving to another area. Just because he left didnt mean what he said was a lie. Things in this world are dynamic, not static. Stuff changes, too. In this case a better offer and promotion in his job changed. Does not mean his comments were lies. Very few can fault a coach who has aspirations to keep moving up or a coworker who desires to move up the chain.

Honest question - did Houston play his cards too quickly. I'm glad he did when he did- the leaks and last week not withstanding so that JMU could move on but the West Virginia job and others (App State, Temple)- would he have been in play had he waited?

He may have taken App State if they were going to get close to ECU’s money. I don’t think they would match, but maybe $1 million/ year would have been enough to get him.
Not only would he be in his native Western Carolina mountains, but he would not have to rebuild a broken program.

As we know, Timing is everything.

(01-05-2019 10:31 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Honest question - did Houston play his cards too quickly. I'm glad he did when he did- the leaks and last week not withstanding so that JMU could move on but the West Virginia job and others (App State, Temple)- would he have been in play had he waited?

Nothing against him, but he doesn't fit the types of coaches we've gone after which is almost entirely elite defensive coordinators.

(01-05-2019 01:16 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  He may have taken App State if they were going to get close to ECU’s money. I don’t think they would match, but maybe $1 million/ year would have been enough to get him.
Not only would he be in his native Western Carolina mountains, but he would not have to rebuild a broken program.

As we know, Timing is everything.

His annual average is just under $1.5M at ECU.

(01-05-2019 01:16 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  He may have taken App State if they were going to get close to ECU’s money. I don’t think they would match, but maybe $1 million/ year would have been enough to get him.
Not only would he be in his native Western Carolina mountains, but he would not have to rebuild a broken program.

As we know, Timing is everything.

It’s an interesting question if he would have taken App St over ECU.
He made some comments about how he admired ECU when he was younger and they were a much better team.

ECU is still the bigger program in a better conference, that hypothetically could join a P5 conference, and if he turns it around there would be setup to get strong P5 offers. That’s a big IF though, and it will be much harder to win there than it was at JMU. Maybe they go 6-5 and get to a bowl, but I don’t see 10+ win seasons there soon.

Flip side is for a little less money, it would be easier to go into a winning program at App St, more likely to have winning seasons and get that P5 job in 3-5 years.

(01-05-2019 02:21 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 01:16 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  He may have taken App State if they were going to get close to ECU’s money. I don’t think they would match, but maybe $1 million/ year would have been enough to get him.
Not only would he be in his native Western Carolina mountains, but he would not have to rebuild a broken program.

As we know, Timing is everything.

It’s an interesting question if he would have taken App St over ECU.
He made some comments about how he admired ECU when he was younger and they were a much better team.

ECU is still the bigger program in a better conference, that hypothetically could join a P5 conference, and if he turns it around there would be setup to get strong P5 offers. That’s a big IF though, and it will be much harder to win there than it was at JMU. Maybe they go 6-5 and get to a bowl, but I don’t see 10+ win seasons there soon.

Flip side is for a little less money, it would be easier to go into a winning program at App St, more likely to have winning seasons and get that P5 job in 3-5 years.

He's making over 2x as much as Satterfield was. I'm not sure what App can pay, but I don't see them payin $1.4M+ for a HC that isn't Satterfield. Even if App could pay $1M, he'd be turning down around $2.5M total to coach there over ECU.

(01-05-2019 10:31 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Honest question - did Houston play his cards too quickly. I'm glad he did when he did- the leaks and last week not withstanding so that JMU could move on but the West Virginia job and others (App State, Temple)- would he have been in play had he waited?

I think NC was where he wanted to be, but he definitely should’ve waited for app which is a better job right now IMO. I know ECU fans hate to admit that.
It’s easier to win at and is clearly also a pipeline to the P5 with much less risk involved.

(01-05-2019 03:08 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 02:21 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 01:16 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  He may have taken App State if they were going to get close to ECU’s money. I don’t think they would match, but maybe $1 million/ year would have been enough to get him.
Not only would he be in his native Western Carolina mountains, but he would not have to rebuild a broken program.

As we know, Timing is everything.

It’s an interesting question if he would have taken App St over ECU.
He made some comments about how he admired ECU when he was younger and they were a much better team.

ECU is still the bigger program in a better conference, that hypothetically could join a P5 conference, and if he turns it around there would be setup to get strong P5 offers. That’s a big IF though, and it will be much harder to win there than it was at JMU. Maybe they go 6-5 and get to a bowl, but I don’t see 10+ win seasons there soon.

Flip side is for a little less money, it would be easier to go into a winning program at App St, more likely to have winning seasons and get that P5 job in 3-5 years.

He's making over 2x as much as Satterfield was. I'm not sure what App can pay, but I don't see them payin $1.4M+ for a HC that isn't Satterfield. Even if App could pay $1M, he'd be turning down around $2.5M total to coach there over ECU.

It’s also harder to win enough to appease the fans at ECU. They fired a coach for not winning enough.

His leash will be much shorter there.

(01-05-2019 07:52 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 03:08 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 02:21 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 01:16 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  He may have taken App State if they were going to get close to ECU’s money. I don’t think they would match, but maybe $1 million/ year would have been enough to get him.
Not only would he be in his native Western Carolina mountains, but he would not have to rebuild a broken program.

As we know, Timing is everything.

It’s an interesting question if he would have taken App St over ECU.
He made some comments about how he admired ECU when he was younger and they were a much better team.

ECU is still the bigger program in a better conference, that hypothetically could join a P5 conference, and if he turns it around there would be setup to get strong P5 offers. That’s a big IF though, and it will be much harder to win there than it was at JMU. Maybe they go 6-5 and get to a bowl, but I don’t see 10+ win seasons there soon.

Flip side is for a little less money, it would be easier to go into a winning program at App St, more likely to have winning seasons and get that P5 job in 3-5 years.

He's making over 2x as much as Satterfield was. I'm not sure what App can pay, but I don't see them payin $1.4M+ for a HC that isn't Satterfield. Even if App could pay $1M, he'd be turning down around $2.5M total to coach there over ECU.

It’s also harder to win enough to appease the fans at ECU. They fired a coach for not winning enough.

His leash will be much shorter there.

Yeah, in a few years I see Houston joining the Scherer-Withers Club of coaches who regretted ever leaving JMU.