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RE: The Athletic: college football power brokers pushing for 8 team playoff
(01-03-2019 10:46 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  If you have 8 teams and an AQ for the top G5 team, possibly with a restriction on being ranked at a certain level, I don't care how the P5 teams do it. They could maybe have an AQ for the top 2 conference winners so the OOC still matters? Then again, top teams that play an OOC of an FCS school, 2 bad G5 teams and one mid-level P5 team at a neutral site don't really tell you very much anyway.

Wouldn't happen but I can dream.

An AQ for both the highest rated P5 and G5 conference champion.

Just to make it fair.
01-03-2019 08:30 PM
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RE: The Athletic: college football power brokers pushing for 8 team playoff
(01-03-2019 06:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-03-2019 06:01 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  If we define “deserves a shot” as either-

- A Power Conference team that has an equal or fewer number of losses to the top two teams in either the selection committee (2014-2018), the BCS (1998-2013), or the AP poll prior to that.

- Any unbeaten team

Eight teams solves all but two years of the last 30.

Expand to 8 and 90+% of the teams with serious arguments get slotted

It's called bracket creep and it never ends.

I'm not sure that bracket creep is going to be a problem here.

There's no way that the powers at be would allow for any more than 1 G5 an autobid and that 1 bid ought to be enough to placate them.

If all the P5 champs get an autobid that ought to make the P conferences that usually only have 1 title contender (PAC 12, ACC, Big 12) those leagues should be happy.

If there are at large bids available that placates Notre Dame and the Big Ten and SEC, who often have multiple top teams.

Who is going to rally for more participants?
01-03-2019 08:34 PM
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RE: The Athletic: college football power brokers pushing for 8 team playoff
(01-03-2019 08:34 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(01-03-2019 06:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-03-2019 06:01 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  If we define “deserves a shot” as either-

- A Power Conference team that has an equal or fewer number of losses to the top two teams in either the selection committee (2014-2018), the BCS (1998-2013), or the AP poll prior to that.

- Any unbeaten team

Eight teams solves all but two years of the last 30.

Expand to 8 and 90+% of the teams with serious arguments get slotted

It's called bracket creep and it never ends.

I'm not sure that bracket creep is going to be a problem here.

There's no way that the powers at be would allow for any more than 1 G5 an autobid and that 1 bid ought to be enough to placate them.

If all the P5 champs get an autobid that ought to make the P conferences that usually only have 1 title contender (PAC 12, ACC, Big 12) those leagues should be happy.

If there are at large bids available that placates Notre Dame and the Big Ten and SEC, who often have multiple top teams.

Who is going to rally for more participants?

While bracket creep might be a force---I think it basically wont get past 8 simply because going bigger likely means shortening the regular season and I suspect there will be little support for that.
01-03-2019 09:21 PM
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The Athletic: college football power brokers pushing for 8 team playoff
(01-03-2019 08:34 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(01-03-2019 06:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-03-2019 06:01 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  If we define “deserves a shot” as either-

- A Power Conference team that has an equal or fewer number of losses to the top two teams in either the selection committee (2014-2018), the BCS (1998-2013), or the AP poll prior to that.

- Any unbeaten team

Eight teams solves all but two years of the last 30.

Expand to 8 and 90+% of the teams with serious arguments get slotted

It's called bracket creep and it never ends.

I'm not sure that bracket creep is going to be a problem here.

There's no way that the powers at be would allow for any more than 1 G5 an autobid and that 1 bid ought to be enough to placate them.

If all the P5 champs get an autobid that ought to make the P conferences that usually only have 1 title contender (PAC 12, ACC, Big 12) those leagues should be happy.

If there are at large bids available that placates Notre Dame and the Big Ten and SEC, who often have multiple top teams.

Who is going to rally for more participants?


Exactly
01-04-2019 12:43 AM
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RE: The Athletic: college football power brokers pushing for 8 team playoff
(01-04-2019 12:43 AM)1845 Bear Wrote:  
(01-03-2019 08:34 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(01-03-2019 06:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-03-2019 06:01 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  If we define “deserves a shot” as either-

- A Power Conference team that has an equal or fewer number of losses to the top two teams in either the selection committee (2014-2018), the BCS (1998-2013), or the AP poll prior to that.

- Any unbeaten team

Eight teams solves all but two years of the last 30.

Expand to 8 and 90+% of the teams with serious arguments get slotted

It's called bracket creep and it never ends.

I'm not sure that bracket creep is going to be a problem here.

There's no way that the powers at be would allow for any more than 1 G5 an autobid and that 1 bid ought to be enough to placate them.

If all the P5 champs get an autobid that ought to make the P conferences that usually only have 1 title contender (PAC 12, ACC, Big 12) those leagues should be happy.

If there are at large bids available that placates Notre Dame and the Big Ten and SEC, who often have multiple top teams.

Who is going to rally for more participants?


Exactly

I bet you once years ago that the Big 12 would never expand again after the defection of A&M and Missouri. I was right. I'll bet you now that this thing doesn't go to 8. There is no serious discussion about it. When they meet next at the championship game, the discussion will not be 8, but rather the role of the selection committee's priorities with regard to conference championships. They'll look at placing the championship higher on the priority list and set a minimum number of losses before it doesn't take precedence. That will be the next move. There is no desire among the presidents, or really the commissioners of the P5 maybe Bowlsby excluded to see a move to 8.

My best guess is that they will agree that 1 loss Champions receive the priority and that at large schools will only be selected if 2 or more of the P5 champs fail to meet that criteria.
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RE: The Athletic: college football power brokers pushing for 8 team playoff
Eventually the CFP will expand to eight teams. The best format at this point to satisfy the fan base is a (5 P5 + 1 G5 + 2 Wildcards). The pressure will start to surmount due to 2 or 3 P5 champs being left out of the playoff every year. I will forecast the change starting in 2025.

That will last for about 12 years and then it will be expanded to 16 teams. The format will then be all conference champs six wild cards. To protect Notre Dame, it will probably be adjusted to 10 Conference Champs + highest rated Independent + 5 Wildcards. This should occur by 2038.

Then everybody is happy.....for a while.
01-04-2019 10:39 AM
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