Is there a way to find out how much your school is getting paid for a game? If so, how? Apparently KSU is leaving for the SEC in 2020 and playing Alabama, Arkansas and Kentucky and I would like to know how much KSU is being compensated for that. Thanks!

If you go to FBSchedules.com and look up Kent, then select future schedules, often times there will be articles discussing the game contracts and the payment amount. You might have to do a little digging.

Should be enough to cover the medical expenses for the casualties...

Wow, 1.75 million, 1.75 million and 1.5 million =$5million for 2020 and their 2021 SEC opponent (Texas A&M) is paying them 1.9 million.

(12-11-2018 01:36 PM)thanksjim Wrote:  Wow, 1.75 million, 1.75 million and 1.5 million =$5million for 2020 and their 2021 SEC opponent (Texas A&M) is paying them 1.9 million.

Iowa game in 2021 is in the 1.9M range also

(12-12-2018 09:06 AM)luckyflash Wrote:  

(12-11-2018 01:36 PM)thanksjim Wrote:  Wow, 1.75 million, 1.75 million and 1.5 million =$5million for 2020 and their 2021 SEC opponent (Texas A&M) is paying them 1.9 million.

Iowa game in 2021 is in the 1.9M range also

Football budget for MAC schools around $8 million to run the program so those games plus $1.5 million from CFP and $1 million from ESPN TV deal plus ticket sales and donations completely pays for Kent to play football at break even or at a slight profit. Basketball at around $3.5 million budget and loses a bit of money and all the other sports are a complete drain.

But this is completely why dropping to FCS would never happen. SEC teams only pay FCS schools around $350,000 for their games if they can even get them and no TV or CFP money. FCS football a money loser while MAC FBS football is not. FBS teams would drop football all together before dropping to FCS.

(12-12-2018 11:07 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(12-12-2018 09:06 AM)luckyflash Wrote:  

(12-11-2018 01:36 PM)thanksjim Wrote:  Wow, 1.75 million, 1.75 million and 1.5 million =$5million for 2020 and their 2021 SEC opponent (Texas A&M) is paying them 1.9 million.

Iowa game in 2021 is in the 1.9M range also

Football budget for MAC schools around $8 million to run the program so those games plus $1.5 million from CFP and $1 million from ESPN TV deal plus ticket sales and donations completely pays for Kent to play football at break even or at a slight profit. Basketball at around $3.5 million budget and loses a bit of money and all the other sports are a complete drain.

But this is completely why dropping to FCS would never happen. SEC teams only pay FCS schools around $350,000 for their games if they can even get them and no TV or CFP money. FCS football a money loser while MAC FBS football is not. FBS teams would drop football all together before dropping to FCS.

When doing the math don't forget Title IV. Dropping down to FCS means you can cut about 2 women non-revenue sports. Dropping down to non-scholarship FCS means you're able to cut even a larger number. I'd not advocating for it, but it's worth being noted.

(12-12-2018 11:07 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  But this is completely why dropping to FCS would never happen. SEC teams only pay FCS schools around $350,000 for their games if they can even get them and no TV or CFP money.

... and then it has to be an FCS program that pays sufficiently close to the FCS scholarship maximum in Football to be a bowl game "counter" ...
... and then typically it has to be an in-state FCS school or near neighbor over a state border ... Great Lakes FCS schools rarely get an SEC contract.

(12-12-2018 11:07 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Football budget for MAC schools around $8 million to run the program so those games plus $1.5 million from CFP and $1 million from ESPN TV deal plus ticket sales and donations completely pays for Kent to play football at break even or at a slight profit. Basketball at around $3.5 million budget and loses a bit of money and all the other sports are a complete drain.

This is just the official FB budget ... the "general expenses" budget is higher at FBS schools than at FCS and even higher than non-FB Division I schools, and the Title IX offset is higher.

Football does not directly make money for Go5 schools. It is a marketing spend. Like any marketing spend, it "makes money" if it attracts the paying customers to justify the outlay. These kinds of revenues defrays the cost of the marketing spend.

Indeed, there are "money losing non-revenue" sports where the team itself is part of the overall earnings to the school, because you offer a half ride to a few real stars and quarter rides to strong support players and the rest of the team are non-scholarship players ... and the quarter ride players and non-scholarship players are both cash flow positive for the school if it has the teaching capacity available for them in the program they are studying.

(12-12-2018 12:07 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  When doing the math don't forget Title IV. Dropping down to FCS means you can cut about 2 women non-revenue sports. Dropping down to non-scholarship FCS means you're able to cut even a larger number. I'd not advocating for it, but it's worth being noted.

You mean Title IX because dropping to FCS will have absolutely no impact on student eligibility for federal financial aid (Title IV funds).

(12-14-2018 08:59 AM)Pulltown Falcon Wrote:  

(12-12-2018 12:07 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  When doing the math don't forget Title IV. Dropping down to FCS means you can cut about 2 women non-revenue sports. Dropping down to non-scholarship FCS means you're able to cut even a larger number. I'd not advocating for it, but it's worth being noted.

You mean Title IX because dropping to FCS will have absolutely no impact on student eligibility for federal financial aid (Title IV funds).

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