Credible information from an AD on the next bowl game:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/a1...game_they/

A few years ago, a couple of the Big Ten ADs suggested that all 6-6 teams do this. IIRC their idea was that bowls would be for teams with at least 7 wins. Any two 6-6 teams would be permitted to arrange a game between themselves during bowl season.

"Oh, no, this is not a bowl. It's just an exhibition game, played after the season is over, by two teams that would ordinarily be eligible to play such a game, if one was offered to them."

"The Football Game Formerly Known As Prince"

see if Liberty is intrested
play game in Detriot, get pizza bowl back on track
Liberty would proablely foot the bill

Good idea

The NCAA has to be careful here. They don't want to detract from the bowls. And honestly, some of these match-ups could be better games than some bowls.

Either way, I think the NCAA should allow the additional practices even if a team doesn't get a bowl. Many schools have new coaches and they are in limbo until spring practice.

I think it's fair. These teams were as eligible as any others, so why should they be denied the extra practice time and a game for their underclassmen to mature more just because of tie-ins and the like? They didn't do anything wrong to get left out.

Let the 6-6 teams schedule games amongst each other during bowl season.

(12-04-2018 08:51 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I think it's fair. These teams were as eligible as any others, so why should they be denied the extra practice time and a game for their underclassmen to mature more just because of tie-ins and the like? They didn't do anything wrong to get left out.

Let the 6-6 teams schedule games amongst each other during bowl season.

If they gave everyone the extra practice time, maybe it would kill off some of these bowls with 6-6 and 7-5 teams. Its a big advantage for the bowl teams when the teams with losing records need the practice more.

(12-04-2018 08:55 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 08:51 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I think it's fair. These teams were as eligible as any others, so why should they be denied the extra practice time and a game for their underclassmen to mature more just because of tie-ins and the like? They didn't do anything wrong to get left out.

Let the 6-6 teams schedule games amongst each other during bowl season.

If they gave everyone the extra practice time, maybe it would kill off some of these bowls with 6-6 and 7-5 teams. Its a big advantage for the bowl teams when the teams with losing records need the practice more.

I don't mind the bowl teams getting that practice time advantage. It's part of the reward of earning a bowl bid, and as watered down as that is these days, it's still something that is earned.

The AD tweeted that it was dead FWIW

(12-04-2018 09:06 AM)Love and Honor Wrote:  The AD tweeted that it was dead FWIW

The problem is that the costs of putting on a football game are considerable, and there is likely to be very little revenue generated by these games, very little fan interest. And those costs would be entirely shouldered by the two teams.

There's little fan interest in some of the bottom feeder bowl games, but in those cases those costs are spread out and absorbed by a lot of different actors - sponsors, TV network, the bowl itself, the conferences, etc. not entirely by the schools.

(12-04-2018 09:02 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 08:55 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 08:51 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I think it's fair. These teams were as eligible as any others, so why should they be denied the extra practice time and a game for their underclassmen to mature more just because of tie-ins and the like? They didn't do anything wrong to get left out.

Let the 6-6 teams schedule games amongst each other during bowl season.

If they gave everyone the extra practice time, maybe it would kill off some of these bowls with 6-6 and 7-5 teams. Its a big advantage for the bowl teams when the teams with losing records need the practice more.

I don't mind the bowl teams getting that practice time advantage. It's part of the reward of earning a bowl bid, and as watered down as that is these days, it's still something that is earned.

You can say that extra practice time is a reward that has been earned. You could also say that no more practice time is a punishment that has been earned.

Teams that fail to get a bowl bid may be reminded of an old gag often posted in company breakrooms: "The beatings will continue until morale improves".

I fully support allowing all teams the extra practice time.

(12-04-2018 08:55 AM)bullet Wrote:  If they gave everyone the extra practice time, maybe it would kill off some of these bowls with 6-6 and 7-5 teams.

That's why this idea won't ever go anywhere. It's too much of a threat to the lower tier bowl games.

I think Liberty would foot the bill
Wym & So Miss not intrested

There is no statistical evidence that teams benefit from the extra bowl practices.

That whole idea that there is a benefit is pushed by the coaches, but there is no data to back it up, other than the coaches opinions.

(12-04-2018 12:46 PM)goofus Wrote:  There is no statistical evidence that teams benefit from the extra bowl practices.

That whole idea that there is a benefit is pushed by the coaches, but there is no data to back it up, other than the coaches opinions.

It depends on how the individual teams utilize their allotted bowl practices.


I know that Clemson utilizes a chunk of the bowl practices to work directly with the players who have spent the season on the scout team, meaning they have gotten little work in Clemson's actual scheme and not as much direct coaching as the starters. For these players it's a head start on spring ball and contributes towards their development.

(12-04-2018 12:46 PM)goofus Wrote:  There is no statistical evidence that teams benefit from the extra bowl practices.

That whole idea that there is a benefit is pushed by the coaches, but there is no data to back it up, other than the coaches opinions.

There is no statistical evidence because there have been no studies. There have been no studies because nobody wants to waste money proving something that is obvious - the more you practice the better you get.

(12-04-2018 12:25 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 08:55 AM)bullet Wrote:  If they gave everyone the extra practice time, maybe it would kill off some of these bowls with 6-6 and 7-5 teams.

That's why this idea won't ever go anywhere. It's too much of a threat to the lower tier bowl games.

The lower tier bowls have zero heartburn over ULM and Miami (OH) getting together for a 13th game.

What they worry about is someone like the SEC saying "you know these tail end bowls don't make a great deal of financial sense for us. Why sign a deal with them when we can stay at home and pay some left out MAC/SunBelt/CUSA/MWC to come play a 13th game and we can put it on SEC Network?"

(12-04-2018 01:14 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 12:46 PM)goofus Wrote:  There is no statistical evidence that teams benefit from the extra bowl practices.

That whole idea that there is a benefit is pushed by the coaches, but there is no data to back it up, other than the coaches opinions.

It depends on how the individual teams utilize their allotted bowl practices.


I know that Clemson utilizes a chunk of the bowl practices to work directly with the players who have spent the season on the scout team, meaning they have gotten little work in Clemson's actual scheme and not as much direct coaching as the starters. For these players it's a head start on spring ball and contributes towards their development.

SC does the same

If fact, for the first week last year I’m pretty sure seniors were excused. Only the game week practices are for the actual game

(12-04-2018 12:31 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  I think Liberty would foot the bill
Wym & So Miss not intrested

Wyoming wishes that the Poinsettia Bowl was still in existent. That was a MWC tie in bowl. They should have found a new place to host it. Why not on the campus stadium at CSU-Dominguez Hills? It is like 30,000 seats and do host a pro team? Brings another bowl in L.A.