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RE: Game 9: At Old Dominion
(12-05-2018 08:29 PM)Zorch Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 08:28 PM)tribelifer Wrote:  Never seen Pierce throw up so many air balls.

If his wrist isn't right then he shouldn't be playing (or, at least, not shooting)!
I think there's a really good chance he shouldn't be playing. He probably wants to play, but the coaching staff needs to be the voice of reason and keep him out.

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(12-05-2018 08:53 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 06:25 PM)tribetime10 Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 05:58 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 05:56 PM)tribetime10 Wrote:  84-82 Tribe.

Really need to have a game where everything comes together.
Yall ain't scoring 84 on us. And we ain't scoring 82. Drop by at least 15 pts each.

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Doubling down.

2OT thriller. Final shot from the same spot on the floor that Freeman hit his shot vs. Murray State.
About that...

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Nailed it!
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(12-05-2018 07:46 PM)mrjoolius Wrote:  This is the worst I've seen us this year and we have looked bad a lot. Only being down 10 is a blessing. If we can string together an average shooting second half we will be right back in this.

I didn't spend too long looking because it was depressing, but I couldn't find a game we shot under 20% from 3. The worst I could find was HPU last year at 22%.
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(12-05-2018 08:55 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 08:29 PM)Zorch Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 08:28 PM)tribelifer Wrote:  Never seen Pierce throw up so many air balls.

If his wrist isn't right then he shouldn't be playing (or, at least, not shooting)!
I think there's a really good chance he shouldn't be playing. He probably wants to play, but the coaching staff needs to be the voice of reason and keep him out.

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RE: Game 9: At Old Dominion
Wasn't able to watch the game tonight. How did we look? Sounds like Pierce still looks injured from what I read
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(12-05-2018 09:19 PM)WMtribe17 Wrote:  Wasn't able to watch the game tonight. How did we look? Sounds like Pierce still looks injured from what I read

Terrible?
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(12-05-2018 09:19 PM)WMtribe17 Wrote:  Wasn't able to watch the game tonight. How did we look? Sounds like Pierce still looks injured from what I read

Worst offensive game of the year ... Pierce was off tonight; out of synch and not himself ... team battled back after being down double digits in 1st half, cut the lead to 5 early in 2nd half, missed a few chances to cut the lead to 2 on some 3’s and then got boat raced by a 17-2 run by ODU
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Highlight of the night was Chase hitting a FT on a technical, and air-high-fiving teammates that weren't there.
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(12-05-2018 09:29 PM)tribetime10 Wrote:  Highlight of the night was Chase hitting a FT on a technical, and air-high-fiving teammates that weren't there.
That was funny.
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(12-05-2018 09:37 PM)mrjoolius Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 09:29 PM)tribetime10 Wrote:  Highlight of the night was Chase hitting a FT on a technical, and air-high-fiving teammates that weren't there.
That was funny.

+1

I really like Audige's energy/style/character.
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I can't make sense out of this team. I really thought we would win the game when we were down 5. And just like that it was a 20 point deficit.

I can't tell when we're playing well and when we're playing poorly.

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(12-05-2018 10:11 PM)zablenoise Wrote:  I can't make sense out of this team. I really thought we would win the game when we were down 5. And just like that it was a 20 point deficit.

I can't tell when we're playing well and when we're playing poorly.

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I felt the same way. That was where we went on a run of just flat out missing open shots on offense and letting that bad energy deflate our defense.
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This team remains badly in need of some cohesion and, for the first time, while remaining high on the overall talent of the guys, am doubting their capacity to put it together with so many freshmen playing key roles.

*Loewe appears out of his depth at this level: and, while I do like the talent of Scott very much,
it is difficult for a freshman point guard to run this offense. We'll have to live with his inconsistency right now as he assumes the everyday starting role.

*Knight is very inconsistent thus far and needs to get going. His talent is immense but he has to avoid the early fouling.

*Pierce had his first bad game last night...up to then he has been very good. Ladst night he appeared to be trying to do too much. And, by the way, I don't believe he's injured--Tony would never play a guy who should not be playing. Never.

The loss to GMU was very deflating: GMU is a poor team who lost their following game at home to Vermont!

We're 2-7 on the season. The game at Hampton suddenly appears big for the guys: Hampton is mediocre and loss to them would really hurt the team's fragile psyche.

Tony and the staff have a big job to do to turn this talented team into a team.
12-06-2018 06:39 AM
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RE: Game 9: At Old Dominion
Attended the game at the Ted last night, scored seats right behind press row. Had a chance to chat with one of the local beat writers who expressed before the game that it would be a great test for Nathan Knight. He'd be going against an ODU team with two 7'0" big men alternating in the post and a roster loaded with athletic, long defenders.
The result? Nathan did manage to stay out of foul trouble, only committing two fouls. He only played 26 minutes, had 14 points with 6 boards. Was 6-13 from the field and continued his affection for shooting 3-pointers, going 0-for-2 behind the arc. And zero blocked shots (more on that in a minute).
The fact that Knight played only 26 minutes, I think, was reflective of the fact that Shaver did not play any starter more than 28 minutes last night.
About the blocked shots ... Knight is way down in this category from last year, when he was second in the CAA with 2.0 blocks a game (61 total). Get this -- Knight had only blocked two shots in the last 7 games.
I don't pretend to be an expert, but it seems to me that after the first several games of the season, when Knight was constantly in foul trouble (a lot of admittedly chippy fouls be the refs), he seems to have backed-off on his defensive aggressiveness. Wondering if the coaches asked him to dial it down, defensively, over the past seven games or so.
I've gotta think Knight will find that happy medium, in terms of balancing aggressive post defense with staying out of foul trouble. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
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I think we have lousy chemistry. Reminds me of two years ago before conference play when Tony benched some of his key players to send a message. Not that the team has ball hogs, but we just aren't in a rhythm. Our three point shooting is what is killing us from a results perspective. We can't keep jacking them up and shoot under 25%. Loewe, Williams, Blair are a combined 7-33. Nobody is shooting 40% except for Scott.
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(12-06-2018 07:45 AM)Pete24 Wrote:  Attended the game at the Ted last night, scored seats right behind press row. Had a chance to chat with one of the local beat writers who expressed before the game that it would be a great test for Nathan Knight. He'd be going against an ODU team with two 7'0" big men alternating in the post and a roster loaded with athletic, long defenders.
The result? Nathan did manage to stay out of foul trouble, only committing two fouls. He only played 26 minutes, had 14 points with 6 boards. Was 6-13 from the field and continued his affection for shooting 3-pointers, going 0-for-2 behind the arc. And zero blocked shots (more on that in a minute).
The fact that Knight played only 26 minutes, I think, was reflective of the fact that Shaver did not play any starter more than 28 minutes last night.
About the blocked shots ... Knight is way down in this category from last year, when he was second in the CAA with 2.0 blocks a game (61 total). Get this -- Knight had only blocked two shots in the last 7 games.
I don't pretend to be an expert, but it seems to me that after the first several games of the season, when Knight was constantly in foul trouble (a lot of admittedly chippy fouls be the refs), he seems to have backed-off on his defensive aggressiveness. Wondering if the coaches asked him to dial it down, defensively, over the past seven games or so.
I've gotta think Knight will find that happy medium, in terms of balancing aggressive post defense with staying out of foul trouble. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

Nathan may have only had 2 fouls, but they were both early in the game and got him planted on the bench for a good chunk of the first half, hence the only 26 minutes.

I was really nervous going into LAST season because of how little depth the Tribe had and was worried about impact of all the transfers. Last season was such a pleasant surprise, I was optimistic going into this season. If we had the injuries last season that we have had so far this season, we might not have won a game up to this point.

We need good health, to develop some chemistry and for Nathan to learn to play with energy and not get in foul trouble.

We wouldn't be so reliant on the freshman if Paul, Matt and Justin could stay healthy and Nathan could not pick up so many fouls early in every game.
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(12-06-2018 07:45 AM)Pete24 Wrote:  Attended the game at the Ted last night, scored seats right behind press row. Had a chance to chat with one of the local beat writers who expressed before the game that it would be a great test for Nathan Knight. He'd be going against an ODU team with two 7'0" big men alternating in the post and a roster loaded with athletic, long defenders.
The result? Nathan did manage to stay out of foul trouble, only committing two fouls. He only played 26 minutes, had 14 points with 6 boards. Was 6-13 from the field and continued his affection for shooting 3-pointers, going 0-for-2 behind the arc. And zero blocked shots (more on that in a minute).
The fact that Knight played only 26 minutes, I think, was reflective of the fact that Shaver did not play any starter more than 28 minutes last night.
About the blocked shots ... Knight is way down in this category from last year, when he was second in the CAA with 2.0 blocks a game (61 total). Get this -- Knight had only blocked two shots in the last 7 games.
I don't pretend to be an expert, but it seems to me that after the first several games of the season, when Knight was constantly in foul trouble (a lot of admittedly chippy fouls be the refs), he seems to have backed-off on his defensive aggressiveness. Wondering if the coaches asked him to dial it down, defensively, over the past seven games or so.
I've gotta think Knight will find that happy medium, in terms of balancing aggressive post defense with staying out of foul trouble. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

I think when no one is playing more than 3/4 of the game, it is difficult to get into a rhythm. I can't figure out what this team's identity is yet.
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Some things that requires no rhythm are defending, boxing out, and rebounding. I think that is what Shaver is primarily looking for in his shuffling lineups. This may lead to a lack of offensive rhythm, but he needs to establish a baseline to build off. Can anyone say that they have seen a reliable lineup doing the basic things Shaver wants to do yet? Other than that spark of life in the 2nd half vs St Joe's, I haven't seen them play good basketball save for some possessions here or there. Nothing close to winning basketball.
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We got beat by a team with better players. That’s the long and short of it!
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Last night 11 guys played and none of them were particularly effective. We shot the ball very poorly and defended poorly. There is no one we can beat when both those things occur. But, the schedule has been difficult. I don't think "the chemistry is bad". We are missing an excellent point guard and a fantastic 3 point shooter from last season. Milon, Pierce, and Rowley are all struggling with various injuries which also impacts conditioning and likely their shooting. Nathan can be limited or taken away with zones and double teams or fouls. He is still a major impact player. So, the 4 returning leaders of the team are all no where near where I hope they will be during the conference season. All 4 are excellent players and have shown the repeated ability to make great team plays. The freshmen, Loewe, Jihar, and Clark are all still working to find their roles. Say what you want, but the limited number of guys who played last year were all very familiar with the system. They may all still make significant improvement over the next 2 months. The shooting, including that from the foul line is concerning. But, I hope that the guys remain positive, keep working hard, and accept that the Tribe needs all of them to get where they want to go. None of the losses mean anything for the CAA race except that we aren't playing well right now. While I went way off the deep end on my season prediction, I still think the Tribe is capable of a good CAA season if we can defend, work together within a well proven offensive system, and make critical free throws. It is not like any other CAA team looks unbeatable at this point, either. We have 3 weeks to try and get things going before we open at home with JMU and Towson.

I DO hate that the Tribe lost to ODU, but Saturday represents another chance to begin playing better.
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