Jank for President.

(12-03-2018 03:21 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 08:21 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 10:32 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I thought Penny was supposed to blow into town and have the Tigers in the final four?

Come on, you need a troll remedial course after that one, lol.

I was quasi-serious After the endless threads and chest pounding by some Memphis Tigers fans over the summer, I expected more.

Well, let's split the difference here:

Pros:
- Penny is a legit legend who has credibility in any recruitment from go.
- He hired a great staff (Miller for style, Tony M for college experience, Mitchell for X/O)
- We already have made some big recruiting moves
- He's a Memphis legend, we are correct to be excited.

Cons:
- Cupboard was a little bare talent wise.
- We have a light first class, with talent, but no game breakers (except possibly Harris)
- It's Penny's first year, so there will be some hard lessons to learn.
- The freshmen are freshmen. Unless you're a top 25 frosh, there is a learning curve.

Long term, we'll be fine and Memphis BB will likely be a national force again.

Short term, LOL, it's going to be a learning experience.

And besides, this is a damn good conference for hoops. Even once we get rolling again, that 16-0 CUSA stuff is over, a great team (which I hope to have again soon) will NOT get out of this conference unscathed.

Cincy, UConn resurgent, Temple always tough, Wichita, Houston rolling, UCF showing stones, and the lower class teams are all improving for the most part.

This is a 5-7 team league if Memphis / UConn get back to historical norms.

Ain't no free lunch in the AAC...

(12-03-2018 04:02 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:21 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 08:21 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 10:32 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I thought Penny was supposed to blow into town and have the Tigers in the final four?

Come on, you need a troll remedial course after that one, lol.

I was quasi-serious After the endless threads and chest pounding by some Memphis Tigers fans over the summer, I expected more.

Well, let's split the difference here:

Pros:
- Penny is a legit legend who has credibility in any recruitment from go.
- He hired a great staff (Miller for style, Tony M for college experience, Mitchell for X/O)
- We already have made some big recruiting moves
- He's a Memphis legend, we are correct to be excited.

Cons:
- Cupboard was a little bare talent wise.
- We have a light first class, with talent, but no game breakers (except possibly Harris)
- It's Penny's first year, so there will be some hard lessons to learn.
- The freshmen are freshmen. Unless you're a top 25 frosh, there is a learning curve.

Long term, we'll be fine and Memphis BB will likely be a national force again.

Short term, LOL, it's going to be a learning experience.

And besides, this is a damn good conference for hoops. Even once we get rolling again, that 16-0 CUSA stuff is over, a great team (which I hope to have again soon) will NOT get out of this conference unscathed.

Cincy, UConn resurgent, Temple always tough, Wichita, Houston rolling, UCF showing stones, and the lower class teams are all improving for the most part.

This is a 5-7 team league if Memphis / UConn get back to historical norms.

Ain't no free lunch in the AAC...

Pretty good take on where everythings at.

(12-03-2018 03:21 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 08:21 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 10:32 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I thought Penny was supposed to blow into town and have the Tigers in the final four?

Come on, you need a troll remedial course after that one, lol.

I was quasi-serious After the endless threads and chest pounding by some Memphis Tigers fans over the summer, I expected more.

You apparently don't keep up with recruiting, lol. The game changers don't show until 2019, and right now, there is really only one. All we got this year were 3 top 150 freshmen.

Even then, anybody next year calling for a NC or even a F4 is pushing it. But it will be interesting to see how preseason polls work out next season. Either way.

(12-03-2018 04:02 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:21 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 08:21 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 10:32 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I thought Penny was supposed to blow into town and have the Tigers in the final four?

Come on, you need a troll remedial course after that one, lol.

I was quasi-serious After the endless threads and chest pounding by some Memphis Tigers fans over the summer, I expected more.

Well, let's split the difference here:

Pros:
- Penny is a legit legend who has credibility in any recruitment from go.
- He hired a great staff (Miller for style, Tony M for college experience, Mitchell for X/O)
- We already have made some big recruiting moves
- He's a Memphis legend, we are correct to be excited.

Cons:
- Cupboard was a little bare talent wise.
- We have a light first class, with talent, but no game breakers (except possibly Harris)
- It's Penny's first year, so there will be some hard lessons to learn.
- The freshmen are freshmen. Unless you're a top 25 frosh, there is a learning curve.

Long term, we'll be fine and Memphis BB will likely be a national force again.

Short term, LOL, it's going to be a learning experience.

And besides, this is a damn good conference for hoops. Even once we get rolling again, that 16-0 CUSA stuff is over, a great team (which I hope to have again soon) will NOT get out of this conference unscathed.

Cincy, UConn resurgent, Temple always tough, Wichita, Houston rolling, UCF showing stones, and the lower class teams are all improving for the most part.

This is a 5-7 team league if Memphis / UConn get back to historical norms.

Ain't no free lunch in the AAC...

Good points. I think the Tigers will trend upward, although unevenly, during the season.

(12-03-2018 04:02 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:21 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 08:21 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 10:32 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I thought Penny was supposed to blow into town and have the Tigers in the final four?

Come on, you need a troll remedial course after that one, lol.

I was quasi-serious After the endless threads and chest pounding by some Memphis Tigers fans over the summer, I expected more.

Well, let's split the difference here:

Pros:
- Penny is a legit legend who has credibility in any recruitment from go.
- He hired a great staff (Miller for style, Tony M for college experience, Mitchell for X/O)
- We already have made some big recruiting moves
- He's a Memphis legend, we are correct to be excited.

Cons:
- Cupboard was a little bare talent wise.
- We have a light first class, with talent, but no game breakers (except possibly Harris)
- It's Penny's first year, so there will be some hard lessons to learn.
- The freshmen are freshmen. Unless you're a top 25 frosh, there is a learning curve.

Long term, we'll be fine and Memphis BB will likely be a national force again.

Short term, LOL, it's going to be a learning experience.

And besides, this is a damn good conference for hoops. Even once we get rolling again, that 16-0 CUSA stuff is over, a great team (which I hope to have again soon) will NOT get out of this conference unscathed.

Cincy, UConn resurgent, Temple always tough, Wichita, Houston rolling, UCF showing stones, and the lower class teams are all improving for the most part.

This is a 5-7 team league if Memphis / UConn get back to historical norms.

Ain't no free lunch in the AAC...

Probably one of the most reasonable posts a Memphis fan has had in quite a while.

Where the hell were you the last 9 months?

its interesting to me how memphis fans are now changing the narrative.... you guys did say youd be better next year....but you also all definitely said you'd be good this year

saying you knew you wouldn't be very good this year is changing history. you guys know the Memphis forum, and aac forum store threads forever?, so does twitter. there are Memphis prediction threads where the average is 22 wins and the worst is 18wins and a nit bid
- to be fair (I just looked up the thread) the guy who predicted NIT has every game but Oklahoma state predicted correctly ..yall beat sdsu and he might be onto something

i can link to tweets by Memphis beat writers (more than 1) saying Memphis will win the aac year 1

memphis fans before the season- we are one of the most talented teams in the AAC, if you pick us lower than 4 you are basically saying you don't think penny can coach because we have the talent

memphis fans during the season- we don't have talent, we are kinda bare, we always knew we wouldn't be good ..next year is when we expected to be good

(12-03-2018 07:34 PM)pesik Wrote:  its interesting to me how memphis fans are now changing the narrative.... you guys did say youd be better next year....but you also all definitely said you'd be good this year

saying you knew you wouldn't be very good this year is changing history. you guys know the Memphis forum, and aac forum store threads forever?, so does twitter. there are Memphis prediction threads where the average is 22 wins and the worst is 18wins and a nit bid
- to be fair (I just looked up the thread) the guy who predicted NIT has every game but Oklahoma state predicted correctly ..yall beat sdsu and he might be onto something

i can link to tweets by Memphis beat writers (more than 1) saying Memphis will win the aac year 1

memphis fans before the season- we are one of the most talented teams in the AAC, if you pick us lower than 4 you are basically saying you don't think penny can coach because we have the talent

memphis fans during the season- we don't have talent, we are kinda bare, we always knew we wouldn't be good ..next year is when we expected to be good

so much this

Didn't Memphis finish 5th last year in the conference? Didn't they return basically their entire team? They seemed to have regressed so far.

(12-03-2018 09:39 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Didn't Memphis finish 5th last year in the conference? Didn't they return basically their entire team? They seemed to have regressed so far.

See, this is where expectations can easily get distorted.

Most of their success during league play was built off 1) injuries to other teams (SMU, UCF, UConn) and 2) a favorable schedule (they got Tulane, East Carolina, and USF 2x).

I thought they had the 8th or 9th most talented roster in the league overall.

They finished the season on a respectable note (even with J. Martin out) but when you lose to last year's 10-win USF team by 24 points at home, there's obviously some glaring holes in your program.

21 wins but #161 KenPom.

(12-03-2018 07:27 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 04:02 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:21 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 08:21 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 10:32 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I thought Penny was supposed to blow into town and have the Tigers in the final four?

Come on, you need a troll remedial course after that one, lol.

I was quasi-serious After the endless threads and chest pounding by some Memphis Tigers fans over the summer, I expected more.

Well, let's split the difference here:

Pros:
- Penny is a legit legend who has credibility in any recruitment from go.
- He hired a great staff (Miller for style, Tony M for college experience, Mitchell for X/O)
- We already have made some big recruiting moves
- He's a Memphis legend, we are correct to be excited.

Cons:
- Cupboard was a little bare talent wise.
- We have a light first class, with talent, but no game breakers (except possibly Harris)
- It's Penny's first year, so there will be some hard lessons to learn.
- The freshmen are freshmen. Unless you're a top 25 frosh, there is a learning curve.

Long term, we'll be fine and Memphis BB will likely be a national force again.

Short term, LOL, it's going to be a learning experience.

And besides, this is a damn good conference for hoops. Even once we get rolling again, that 16-0 CUSA stuff is over, a great team (which I hope to have again soon) will NOT get out of this conference unscathed.

Cincy, UConn resurgent, Temple always tough, Wichita, Houston rolling, UCF showing stones, and the lower class teams are all improving for the most part.

This is a 5-7 team league if Memphis / UConn get back to historical norms.

Ain't no free lunch in the AAC...

Probably one of the most reasonable posts a Memphis fan has had in quite a while.

Where the hell were you the last 9 months?

Other Tiger fans are reasonable here, you just like to pretend one or 2 fans represent the whole fan base. That and you like to exaggerate (our so called expectations) even though you’ve been told several times that we didn’t expect to be awesome this year.

(12-03-2018 10:22 PM)BrooklynRocket Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 09:39 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Didn't Memphis finish 5th last year in the conference? Didn't they return basically their entire team? They seemed to have regressed so far.

See, this is where expectations can easily get distorted.

Most of their success during league play was built off 1) injuries to other teams (SMU, UCF, UConn) and 2) a favorable schedule (they got Tulane, East Carolina, and USF 2x).

I thought they had the 8th or 9th most talented roster in the league overall.

They finished the season on a respectable note (even with J. Martin out) but when you lose to last year's 10-win USF team by 24 points at home, there's obviously some glaring holes in your program.

21 wins but #161 KenPom.

Our OOC schedule was straight trash last year. We won a few close games against cupcakes and had at least 2 buzzer beaters in conference. The 21 wins weren’t all hollow; however, the weak schedule definitely played a part. This year’s team probably wasn’t ready for this kind of schedule, but maybe they’ll be better in the future as a result.

(12-03-2018 10:33 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 07:27 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 04:02 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:21 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 08:21 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Come on, you need a troll remedial course after that one, lol.

I was quasi-serious After the endless threads and chest pounding by some Memphis Tigers fans over the summer, I expected more.

Well, let's split the difference here:

Pros:
- Penny is a legit legend who has credibility in any recruitment from go.
- He hired a great staff (Miller for style, Tony M for college experience, Mitchell for X/O)
- We already have made some big recruiting moves
- He's a Memphis legend, we are correct to be excited.

Cons:
- Cupboard was a little bare talent wise.
- We have a light first class, with talent, but no game breakers (except possibly Harris)
- It's Penny's first year, so there will be some hard lessons to learn.
- The freshmen are freshmen. Unless you're a top 25 frosh, there is a learning curve.

Long term, we'll be fine and Memphis BB will likely be a national force again.

Short term, LOL, it's going to be a learning experience.

And besides, this is a damn good conference for hoops. Even once we get rolling again, that 16-0 CUSA stuff is over, a great team (which I hope to have again soon) will NOT get out of this conference unscathed.

Cincy, UConn resurgent, Temple always tough, Wichita, Houston rolling, UCF showing stones, and the lower class teams are all improving for the most part.

This is a 5-7 team league if Memphis / UConn get back to historical norms.

Ain't no free lunch in the AAC...

Probably one of the most reasonable posts a Memphis fan has had in quite a while.

Where the hell were you the last 9 months?

Other Tiger fans are reasonable here, you just like to pretend one or 2 fans represent the whole fan base. That and you like to exaggerate (our so called expectations) even though you’ve been told several times that we didn’t expect to be awesome this year.

How come you responded to me about expectations when pesik posted a few posts later that Memphis fans and media made outlandish expectations and talks of conference championships in year 1 and you just mindlessly ignored it?

Looks like it's not just me with the "exaggerations".

Somebody has an axe to grind alright..

sidenote:

first espn bracketology since gameplay started

ucf 9 seed (was posted after mizzu loss)
houston 9 seed
cincy 11 seed

^LOL

mid major

(12-03-2018 11:04 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 10:33 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 07:27 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 04:02 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:21 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I was quasi-serious After the endless threads and chest pounding by some Memphis Tigers fans over the summer, I expected more.

Well, let's split the difference here:

Pros:
- Penny is a legit legend who has credibility in any recruitment from go.
- He hired a great staff (Miller for style, Tony M for college experience, Mitchell for X/O)
- We already have made some big recruiting moves
- He's a Memphis legend, we are correct to be excited.

Cons:
- Cupboard was a little bare talent wise.
- We have a light first class, with talent, but no game breakers (except possibly Harris)
- It's Penny's first year, so there will be some hard lessons to learn.
- The freshmen are freshmen. Unless you're a top 25 frosh, there is a learning curve.

Long term, we'll be fine and Memphis BB will likely be a national force again.

Short term, LOL, it's going to be a learning experience.

And besides, this is a damn good conference for hoops. Even once we get rolling again, that 16-0 CUSA stuff is over, a great team (which I hope to have again soon) will NOT get out of this conference unscathed.

Cincy, UConn resurgent, Temple always tough, Wichita, Houston rolling, UCF showing stones, and the lower class teams are all improving for the most part.

This is a 5-7 team league if Memphis / UConn get back to historical norms.

Ain't no free lunch in the AAC...

Probably one of the most reasonable posts a Memphis fan has had in quite a while.

Where the hell were you the last 9 months?

Other Tiger fans are reasonable here, you just like to pretend one or 2 fans represent the whole fan base. That and you like to exaggerate (our so called expectations) even though you’ve been told several times that we didn’t expect to be awesome this year.

How come you responded to me about expectations when pesik posted a few posts later that Memphis fans and media made outlandish expectations and talks of conference championships in year 1 and you just mindlessly ignored it?

Looks like it's not just me with the "exaggerations".

Somebody has an axe to grind alright..

Lol I ignore most of what he posts.

Didn’t see the post, but I haven’t heard media say anything about a conference championship in year 1. Some crazy fan might believe that, but they’d be in the minority.

(12-03-2018 07:27 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 04:02 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:21 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 08:21 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 10:32 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I thought Penny was supposed to blow into town and have the Tigers in the final four?

Come on, you need a troll remedial course after that one, lol.

I was quasi-serious After the endless threads and chest pounding by some Memphis Tigers fans over the summer, I expected more.

Well, let's split the difference here:

Pros:
- Penny is a legit legend who has credibility in any recruitment from go.
- He hired a great staff (Miller for style, Tony M for college experience, Mitchell for X/O)
- We already have made some big recruiting moves
- He's a Memphis legend, we are correct to be excited.

Cons:
- Cupboard was a little bare talent wise.
- We have a light first class, with talent, but no game breakers (except possibly Harris)
- It's Penny's first year, so there will be some hard lessons to learn.
- The freshmen are freshmen. Unless you're a top 25 frosh, there is a learning curve.

Long term, we'll be fine and Memphis BB will likely be a national force again.

Short term, LOL, it's going to be a learning experience.

And besides, this is a damn good conference for hoops. Even once we get rolling again, that 16-0 CUSA stuff is over, a great team (which I hope to have again soon) will NOT get out of this conference unscathed.

Cincy, UConn resurgent, Temple always tough, Wichita, Houston rolling, UCF showing stones, and the lower class teams are all improving for the most part.

This is a 5-7 team league if Memphis / UConn get back to historical norms.

Ain't no free lunch in the AAC...

Probably one of the most reasonable posts a Memphis fan has had in quite a while.

Where the hell were you the last 9 months?

9 months ago they weren't a sobering 3-4.

(12-03-2018 11:15 PM)pesik Wrote:  sidenote:

first espn bracketology since gameplay started

ucf 9 seed (was posted after mizzu loss)
houston 9 seed
cincy 11 seed

Lunardi is a low-major ESPN employee.

So we don't have any world beaters at the top, it looks solid and the bottom doesn't look as bad as in years past.

(12-03-2018 11:55 PM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 07:27 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 04:02 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:21 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 08:21 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Come on, you need a troll remedial course after that one, lol.

I was quasi-serious After the endless threads and chest pounding by some Memphis Tigers fans over the summer, I expected more.

Well, let's split the difference here:

Pros:
- Penny is a legit legend who has credibility in any recruitment from go.
- He hired a great staff (Miller for style, Tony M for college experience, Mitchell for X/O)
- We already have made some big recruiting moves
- He's a Memphis legend, we are correct to be excited.

Cons:
- Cupboard was a little bare talent wise.
- We have a light first class, with talent, but no game breakers (except possibly Harris)
- It's Penny's first year, so there will be some hard lessons to learn.
- The freshmen are freshmen. Unless you're a top 25 frosh, there is a learning curve.

Long term, we'll be fine and Memphis BB will likely be a national force again.

Short term, LOL, it's going to be a learning experience.

And besides, this is a damn good conference for hoops. Even once we get rolling again, that 16-0 CUSA stuff is over, a great team (which I hope to have again soon) will NOT get out of this conference unscathed.

Cincy, UConn resurgent, Temple always tough, Wichita, Houston rolling, UCF showing stones, and the lower class teams are all improving for the most part.

This is a 5-7 team league if Memphis / UConn get back to historical norms.

Ain't no free lunch in the AAC...

Probably one of the most reasonable posts a Memphis fan has had in quite a while.

Where the hell were you the last 9 months?

9 months ago they weren't a sobering 3-4.

Chirp while you can...