baruna falls
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RE: The AAC and Marketing
(12-12-2018 11:05 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote: (12-11-2018 03:30 PM)baruna falls Wrote: (12-11-2018 12:39 PM)cmett003 Wrote: (12-11-2018 11:22 AM)ksniner Wrote: If Big 12 expands with Texas and OU intact they will probably add UCF and USF.
If they lose Texas and OU to the Big Ten. Add above and UH and Cincinnati/Memphis IMO.
If that happens then the whole rest of B12/AAC/C-USA and Sunbelt will get shaken up.
Big 10
Texas
Oklahoma
Ohio St.
Michigan
Penn State
Illinois
Iowa
Nebraska
Rutgers
Michigan State
Minnasota
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Indiana
Maryland
Purdue
Big 12
TCU
Baylor
Oklahoma State
Texas Tech
Iowa State
West Virginia
Kansas State
Kansas
Houston
Memphis
UCF
USF
Cincinatti
UConn
Without UConn, UH, Cincy, Memphis, UCF and USF the American is no longer above the other G5 conferences and should join the regional split with C-USA and Sunbelt. This acutally is one of the best regional splits I have come up with but it probably will never happen.
AAC
Witchita St
Tulsa
North Texas
Rice
UTEP
SMU
Texas State
UTSA
Tulane
Louisiana Lafayette
Louisiana Monroe
La Tech
C-USA
Temple
Old Dominion
Navy
ECU
Marshall
WKU
App State
Charlotte
UMass
Liberty
JMU
MTSU
Sunbelt
Southern Miss
UAB
Troy
Coastal Carolina
Ga Southern
Ga State
FIU
FAU
South Alabama
Arkansas State
Meh,If this happens ECU is finished in football.
Are you sure that you aren't already finished in Football?
Anything is possible. I was heartened that we picked a coach who seems to be a winner.
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BlueRaiderBoy
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RE: The AAC and Marketing
(12-13-2018 06:09 AM)baruna falls Wrote: (12-12-2018 11:05 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote: (12-11-2018 03:30 PM)baruna falls Wrote: (12-11-2018 12:39 PM)cmett003 Wrote: (12-11-2018 11:22 AM)ksniner Wrote: If Big 12 expands with Texas and OU intact they will probably add UCF and USF.
If they lose Texas and OU to the Big Ten. Add above and UH and Cincinnati/Memphis IMO.
If that happens then the whole rest of B12/AAC/C-USA and Sunbelt will get shaken up.
Big 10
Texas
Oklahoma
Ohio St.
Michigan
Penn State
Illinois
Iowa
Nebraska
Rutgers
Michigan State
Minnasota
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Indiana
Maryland
Purdue
Big 12
TCU
Baylor
Oklahoma State
Texas Tech
Iowa State
West Virginia
Kansas State
Kansas
Houston
Memphis
UCF
USF
Cincinatti
UConn
Without UConn, UH, Cincy, Memphis, UCF and USF the American is no longer above the other G5 conferences and should join the regional split with C-USA and Sunbelt. This acutally is one of the best regional splits I have come up with but it probably will never happen.
AAC
Witchita St
Tulsa
North Texas
Rice
UTEP
SMU
Texas State
UTSA
Tulane
Louisiana Lafayette
Louisiana Monroe
La Tech
C-USA
Temple
Old Dominion
Navy
ECU
Marshall
WKU
App State
Charlotte
UMass
Liberty
JMU
MTSU
Sunbelt
Southern Miss
UAB
Troy
Coastal Carolina
Ga Southern
Ga State
FIU
FAU
South Alabama
Arkansas State
Meh,If this happens ECU is finished in football.
Are you sure that you aren't already finished in Football?
Anything is possible. I was heartened that we picked a coach who seems to be a winner.
True. If he does for you what he did at his last stop, Pirates may win the AACK. But meanwhile, our colleagues at Charlotte are probably just as excited to have Healy from Austin Peay. He also has some star potential.
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wylioats
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RE: The AAC and Marketing
(12-12-2018 08:35 AM)The Knight Time Wrote: (12-11-2018 11:14 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: MEH! If anything happens IMHO, we are going to end up with four power conferences plus Notre Dame. No one is going up. Like LB said, I see perhaps only UCF getting a seat at the table but that would mean a P5 gets pushed out. Not sure that happens. UCF’s budget still isn’t up to snuff with P5 teams (doesn’t mean they can’t get there).
I think Aresco and the UCF AD have done more damage to UCF than anything.
lol! Yea, our AD really killed us. We were punished by having multiple ABC primetime games this year, College Gameday visiting Orlando, and basically being discussed on every single CFB show since last December.
And now Stewart Mandel has an article out advocating UCF to the Big 12.
How terrible! He really sabotaged us!
I had to laugh at that comment from Thunderstruck73 saying UCF's AD has damaged their program. Oh well I just considered the source. And as far as being on ABC national broadcasts a few times along with ESPN & ESPN2 nationals numerous times, I believe over the last 3-4 years Memphis and Houston can claim the same. If we can't be P5 (I hate that term), the AAC is the place to be.
(This post was last modified: 12-13-2018 03:49 PM by wylioats.)
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RE: The AAC and Marketing
(12-13-2018 03:47 PM)wylioats Wrote: (12-12-2018 08:35 AM)The Knight Time Wrote: (12-11-2018 11:14 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: MEH! If anything happens IMHO, we are going to end up with four power conferences plus Notre Dame. No one is going up. Like LB said, I see perhaps only UCF getting a seat at the table but that would mean a P5 gets pushed out. Not sure that happens. UCF’s budget still isn’t up to snuff with P5 teams (doesn’t mean they can’t get there).
I think Aresco and the UCF AD have done more damage to UCF than anything.
lol! Yea, our AD really killed us. We were punished by having multiple ABC primetime games this year, College Gameday visiting Orlando, and basically being discussed on every single CFB show since last December.
And now Stewart Mandel has an article out advocating UCF to the Big 12.
How terrible! He really sabotaged us!
I had to laugh at that comment from Thunderstruck73 saying UCF's AD has damaged their program. Oh well I just considered the source. And as far as being on ABC national broadcasts a few times along with ESPN & ESPN2 nationals numerous times, I believe over the last 3-4 years Memphis and Houston can claim the same. If we can't be P5 (I hate that term), the AAC is the place to be.
You really must have cognitive arthritis or very poor reading comprehension skills. I clarified my earlier post by stating that the school’s coming off as smug by turning up its nose at a two for one with Florida could damage their ability to schedule with bigger name P5’s.
I’m glad it took you this long to respond. Took you this long to catch up? Run along, Junior. Men are talking.
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wylioats
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(12-13-2018 04:48 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: (12-13-2018 03:47 PM)wylioats Wrote: (12-12-2018 08:35 AM)The Knight Time Wrote: (12-11-2018 11:14 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: MEH! If anything happens IMHO, we are going to end up with four power conferences plus Notre Dame. No one is going up. Like LB said, I see perhaps only UCF getting a seat at the table but that would mean a P5 gets pushed out. Not sure that happens. UCF’s budget still isn’t up to snuff with P5 teams (doesn’t mean they can’t get there).
I think Aresco and the UCF AD have done more damage to UCF than anything.
lol! Yea, our AD really killed us. We were punished by having multiple ABC primetime games this year, College Gameday visiting Orlando, and basically being discussed on every single CFB show since last December.
And now Stewart Mandel has an article out advocating UCF to the Big 12.
How terrible! He really sabotaged us!
I had to laugh at that comment from Thunderstruck73 saying UCF's AD has damaged their program. Oh well I just considered the source. And as far as being on ABC national broadcasts a few times along with ESPN & ESPN2 nationals numerous times, I believe over the last 3-4 years Memphis and Houston can claim the same. If we can't be P5 (I hate that term), the AAC is the place to be.
You really must have cognitive arthritis or very poor reading comprehension skills. I clarified my earlier post by stating that the school’s coming off as smug by turning up its nose at a two for one with Florida could damage their ability to schedule with bigger name P5’s.
I’m glad it took you this long to respond. Took you this long to catch up? Run along, Junior. Men are talking.
Damn dude, sensitive much? Stop acting like a 2 year old, didn't mean to ruffle your feathers. Go back and read your post, seems to me like I'm not the only one who took what you posted, as you said, the UCF AD is doing damage to their football program. Oh yea, saying childish things like "run along junior, men are talking", WOW! How cute, genius come back. How bout growing up and stop taking things so personal.
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RE: The AAC and Marketing
clt says it is really just P5 { BAMA, clempson, tOSU, UGA, and Oklahoma}
And then everyone else
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THUNDERStruck73
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RE: The AAC and Marketing
(12-13-2018 05:43 PM)wylioats Wrote: (12-13-2018 04:48 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: (12-13-2018 03:47 PM)wylioats Wrote: (12-12-2018 08:35 AM)The Knight Time Wrote: (12-11-2018 11:14 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: MEH! If anything happens IMHO, we are going to end up with four power conferences plus Notre Dame. No one is going up. Like LB said, I see perhaps only UCF getting a seat at the table but that would mean a P5 gets pushed out. Not sure that happens. UCF’s budget still isn’t up to snuff with P5 teams (doesn’t mean they can’t get there).
I think Aresco and the UCF AD have done more damage to UCF than anything.
lol! Yea, our AD really killed us. We were punished by having multiple ABC primetime games this year, College Gameday visiting Orlando, and basically being discussed on every single CFB show since last December.
And now Stewart Mandel has an article out advocating UCF to the Big 12.
How terrible! He really sabotaged us!
I had to laugh at that comment from Thunderstruck73 saying UCF's AD has damaged their program. Oh well I just considered the source. And as far as being on ABC national broadcasts a few times along with ESPN & ESPN2 nationals numerous times, I believe over the last 3-4 years Memphis and Houston can claim the same. If we can't be P5 (I hate that term), the AAC is the place to be.
You really must have cognitive arthritis or very poor reading comprehension skills. I clarified my earlier post by stating that the school’s coming off as smug by turning up its nose at a two for one with Florida could damage their ability to schedule with bigger name P5’s.
I’m glad it took you this long to respond. Took you this long to catch up? Run along, Junior. Men are talking.
Damn dude, sensitive much? Stop acting like a 2 year old, didn't mean to ruffle your feathers. Go back and read your post, seems to me like I'm not the only one who took what you posted, as you said, the UCF AD is doing damage to their football program. Oh yea, saying childish things like "run along junior, men are talking", WOW! How cute, genius come back. How bout growing up and stop taking things so personal.
No, not at all. YOU are the one who decided to come over here on OUR board and directly insult me (“...I considered the source ”) and directly called me out which was pretty childish to begin with, so that’s where “Junior” came in.
I personally couldn’t care less about UCF and I would have thought with a school who is trying to prove its worth among the P5 would play as many as they can no matter where it is (if money truly isn’t an obstacle as they claim) and win those games before poo-pooing any deals thrown their way by blue-blood P5 schools. But whatever floats their boat.
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RE: The AAC and Marketing
A lot of the top programs in the AAC like where they are at right now. They are being talked about a lot, their basketball teams are playing P5 teams on ESPN. They have a service academy & are always playing their best games on ESPN. This gives them exposure factor. The problems they have is teams like Tulane, Tulsa, ECU, and a few other schools not getting people in seats. Once they figure that out & get more than 2-3 teams competeting every year they should be fun to watch & it will be a good conference. Ther stadiums for the most part are fine. I see in the next few years, one of the P5's adds a UCF, then tgevAAC grabs the best G5 school.
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RE: The AAC and Marketing
(12-07-2018 04:09 PM)Dawgxas Wrote: In fact Im so sure the AAC will not get 5x or 6x times contract I will bet the house on it? Any takers?
I was right about the Big 12 and I will be right about this
We need to have a fundraiser for Dawgxas. Poor guy bet the house on it. #homelessdawg
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(03-20-2019 03:16 AM)otown Wrote: (12-07-2018 04:09 PM)Dawgxas Wrote: In fact Im so sure the AAC will not get 5x or 6x times contract I will bet the house on it? Any takers?
I was right about the Big 12 and I will be right about this
We need to have a fundraiser for Dawgxas. Poor guy bet the house on it. #homelessdawg
He also claimed to have a contact at ESPN who told him Aac was not getting more than 2 million a year. Hmm guess his friend was wrong lol.
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RE: The AAC and Marketing
(03-20-2019 03:33 AM)baruna falls Wrote: (03-20-2019 03:16 AM)otown Wrote: (12-07-2018 04:09 PM)Dawgxas Wrote: In fact Im so sure the AAC will not get 5x or 6x times contract I will bet the house on it? Any takers?
I was right about the Big 12 and I will be right about this
We need to have a fundraiser for Dawgxas. Poor guy bet the house on it. #homelessdawg
He also claimed to have a contact at ESPN who told him Aac was not getting more than 2 million a year. Hmm guess his friend was wrong lol.
In his defense, his friend has probably been fired since then as part of layoffs designed to find that extra cash.
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03-20-2019 07:12 AM |
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RE: The AAC and Marketing
(03-20-2019 03:16 AM)otown Wrote: (12-07-2018 04:09 PM)Dawgxas Wrote: In fact Im so sure the AAC will not get 5x or 6x times contract I will bet the house on it? Any takers?
I was right about the Big 12 and I will be right about this
We need to have a fundraiser for Dawgxas. Poor guy bet the house on it. #homelessdawg
No fundraiser needed, I was exactly right, 6 million is not 10 or 12 million which would have been 5X to 6X rimes
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(03-20-2019 03:33 AM)baruna falls Wrote: (03-20-2019 03:16 AM)otown Wrote: (12-07-2018 04:09 PM)Dawgxas Wrote: In fact Im so sure the AAC will not get 5x or 6x times contract I will bet the house on it? Any takers?
I was right about the Big 12 and I will be right about this
We need to have a fundraiser for Dawgxas. Poor guy bet the house on it. #homelessdawg
He also claimed to have a contact at ESPN who told him Aac was not getting more than 2 million a year. Hmm guess his friend was wrong lol.
Wrong, I was pretty damn closed I said 4-6 million
When ESPN+ came online and ESPN was shifting the production costs to all the G5 schools I said the contract would be more to offset all the production costs.
Dont be naive all those pitiful ECU football games will cost at least 40k to have a solid production on ESPN+
With the very long term exclusive nature of this contract and the ESPN+ productuon costs, this is really bad contract for the AAC. I was actually surprised on how bad of a contract this is
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03-20-2019 04:53 PM |
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RE: The AAC and Marketing
How does Cincy, UConn and USF feel about the long term substantial paycut
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03-20-2019 04:55 PM |
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Pay cut? Per the last available tax forms from 2016/2017 athletic year, USF received $8,876,617, UCONN $8,088,293, and UC $7,659,781 in total conference distributions. Navy's FB only share earned them $2,623,695. Everyone else is listed between $3.5M and $5.4M. Media revenue is listed at $20,629,300. While the newest members will see a hefty raise, the old guard should remain whole...which granted will not help with any current school deficits.
http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990_pdf...06_990.pdf
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