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RE: NY6 Bowl pairings (non-playoffs)
(12-04-2018 10:34 AM)quo vadis Wrote: (12-04-2018 10:31 AM)otown Wrote: (12-04-2018 09:30 AM)quo vadis Wrote: (12-03-2018 09:27 PM)otown Wrote: (12-03-2018 07:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote: We don't know with 100% proof, granted. But all the evidence is on my side. I've quoted sportswriters whose job it is to know that the Peach didn't want UCF. Of course the Peach or CFP isn't going to say this publicly/on the record. Wow, you quoted Mike Bianchi.... you can't be serious 
Once again, you resort to impugning Bianchi. That's your bias. The Orlando Sentinel pays him to report on UCF. Not you.
Second, the CFP's explanation makes no sense, picking Michigan first for the Peach because they were highest ranked. The rankings were so close here - all four teams were between #7 - #11 that there is no marketing or any other kind of advantage to having one over the other. Yes, Michigan is a true blue-blood so is very desirable, but so is Florida. You seem to keep forgetting, its location location location. No East coast teams wants to travel far. Michigan was ranked ahead, despite me thinking they should not have been ahead of UCF at #7, they were. As far as the Gators, their AD was on the committee, clearly they would rather play close to home as well, and the committee has a bias to favoring P5 schools. Claiming the Peach bowl wanted this or that based off of the match up is assinine. The bowls do not have any contact with the committee during the process. I do not know why you keep harping on this nonsense. What you are proposing is collusion between bowls and the committee, which would go against your consistent previous stance of committee purity during the entire structure of CFP.
What a dumb response. The rankings difference among all those schools was trivial, as was the travel situation. If you are Michigan, traveling to Atlanta is the same as traveling to Phoenix. It's getting on a plane and flying.
And I already said that the Gators wanted to play in Atlanta, of course they would as it is driving distance. So would UCF. That's what made UCF vs Florida IN ATLANTA the obvious choice. And of course the bowls have channels to express their interest in these matchups. To think otherwise is just silly. You have no sensible response to anything I've said, so why not just admit I am right?
As I explained, the *obvious* matchups from a fan interest and geography POV was Florida vs UCF in the Peach and Michigan vs LSU in the Fiesta. That made all the sense in the world, because (a) Florida vs UCF would be of high interest as a "state" battle, and (b) LSU vs Michigan would be of high interest because they are two blue-bloods who have never played before. And © putting UCF vs Florida in the Peach was 100% sensible because it gives both teams an easy travel to the game, where if that game were in the Fiesta all 4 teams would have long trips to the two bowl games. Money is the most important, and even blue bloods have problems selling tickets across the country. The committee bent over to the preference of the blue blood school preferences.
That last garbled sentence is indicative of your lack of logic. The matchups and locations I mentioned make obvious sense. Heck, I bet if we polled Michigan supporters, they would MUCH rather play LSU for the first time ever than Florida for the 3rd time in the past 6 years or whatever it is. Michigan had NO preference for ATL over Phoenix as it is all the same to them in terms of travel, it's amazing you keep trying to act like Michigan is just down the road from Atlanta - hilarious.
Third, the one argument against this, that UCF played in the Peach last year, holds no water, because it just isn't a big deal for a team to play in a bowl game in back to back years. That has happened many, may times, isn't unusual at all. Even in major bowls it isn't, Wisconsin played in 3 straight Rose Bowls just a few years ago. Heck, my USF played in the freaking Birmingham Bowl the past two years, in 2016 and 2017. It's not unusual in the Peach Bowl either - in the past 20 years, Clemson, Miami, and Tennessee have all played in back to back Peach Bowls. Comparing apples to oranges to grasp at straws. My gosh, you are even stooping to low level bowls like the Birmingham to make your point? Yeesh...just drop it already. You are also throwing in bowls with conference contracts and pre CFP bowls. Show examples of non contract NY6 CFP era bowls having back to back teams.
What a clown answer! I gave you apples, oranges, everything. Examples of back to back showings in minor bowls (USF), mid-tier bowls (pre-CFP Peach), and major bowls (Rose), and all recently. I easily proved that playing back to back in a bowl is no big deal at all. Good Grief!
No, the explanation that easily most closely fits the facts is that the Peach just did not want UCF. In your mind, fine. In reality, there are loads of other reasons as well...... but I do not expect you to drop your quoisms now or in the future
No there aren't, otherwise you wouldn't have utterly failed to provide any of them.
And in fairness, as I said before, it's not a "UCF" thing. If God Forbid USF had made the NY6 the past two years, they wouldn't want us twice either. No major wants a G5 twice at all, whoever they are. The rules state the committee chooses the bowls....... Facts seem to be at odds with Quoisms
Yes, the committee chooses the bowls based on fan interest and geography, both of which overwhelmingly favored UCF vs Florida in the Peach.
And of course this is just one of many that debunk your myth....
https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...an-ucf-lsu
Before you bring up the sudden sell out, the Peach bowl was sold out before teams were picked this year. Only reason for this is buyers get dibs on face value tickets for next year's semi final.
The SB Nation article basically says what i say - that UCF vs Florida in the Peach was the obvious thing to do. It just a bit wrong when it says generically that "the committee doesn't want to send a team to a bowl two years in a row". Sure, that's a minor consideration, but easily swamped by the two factors i mentioned - on the positive side, the obvious advantages of UCF vs FL in the Peach vs the Fiesta, and on the negative, the obvious desire by the Peach not to get stuck *with a G5, UCF*, two years in a row. As I've shown, two in a row isn't much of a big deal, it has happened frequently before.
The Peach just didn't want UCF again, which is why the CFP did what it did.
No point in arguing with somebody that will argue till their blue in the face that the sky is purple.
That's you. You brought nothing factual to the table, just a hair-raising need to defend UCF in the face of overwhelming facts. Happy to accept your surrender. 
Quite the contrary. I have just accepted that you live in a fantasy world. People that live in fantasies, tend to have no facts and cannot be argued with. Good day.
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NY6 Bowl pairings (non-playoffs)
