We should all email our athletic directors and demand that our conference commissioners get together and sue for inclusion. If a "G5" team can win 25 straight games and we it affects us all!, gets left out of an opportunity to compete for a national championship its a travesty! And we need to stop taken it on freaking chin! And demand a change to the system!

Too late. When we all became the non-autonomous conferences a few years ago, we pretty much all signed-over the major decisions to them.

(12-02-2018 02:08 AM)MadEagle Wrote:  We should all email our athletic directors and demand that our conference commissioners get together and sue for inclusion. If a "G5" team can win 25 straight games and we it affects us all!, gets left out of an opportunity to compete for a national championship its a travesty! And we need to stop taken it on freaking chin! And demand a change to the system!

If we win, the P5 schools break from the NCAA and for their own organization (e.g., NAIA). Be like USFL winning $1 in damages when they sued NFL.

Sad for college football. It's all about the $$ and the select schools who are in control of this... I am amazed that the Pac 10 and Big 12 are ok with the current system. To me they are also not getting a shot...

There’s no ‘if’ involved. They aren’t even in the discussion.

In all fairness, I’m glad they aren’t this year. They’d get killed. Last year they would have done really good, but this year they’d be the example of why they don’t want to let G5 schools in.

UCF has ZERO chance of making the CFP. In fact, they have less than zero. It's a negative chance, like -50%.

Sorry but I don't think UCF is better than OU, OSU or UGA. That simple.

UCF could play with OU and OSU. Not UGA or Bama. I will say this though. If you don't win your conference and have 2 losses, you should not make the playoffs. It's that simple. In fact, winning your conference should be a pre-requisite to make the playoffs.

(12-02-2018 08:46 AM)BlueraiderJT Wrote:  UCF could play with OU and OSU. Not UGA or Bama. I will say this though. If you don't win your conference and have 2 losses, you should not make the playoffs. It's that simple. In fact, winning your conference should be a pre-requisite to make the playoffs.

OU and OSU would whip UCF. The problem is Alabama won it as the debated #4 and not even winning their division. That just gives the CFP committee more justification to include multiple SEC teams.

After beating #4 Michigan, OSU was specifically put at #6 in the CFP rankings and not #5 in case Alabama lost to Georgia.

The best thing for the G5 might of been for Georgia to have beat Alabama and the top 4 stay in (1. Clemson, 2. Georgia, 3. Notre Dame, 4 Alabama). B12 and B10 then get super pissed and force a 8 team CFP. That would be the only way for a G5 to sneak in to the CFP.

UCF would need to score 71 to beat Oklahoma because if Memphis can drop 38 on that UCF team in a half...Oklahoma would put up 70 over 4 quarters . I dont think UCF would be with in 3 tds of Oklahoma this year.

Best damn offense in college football, and the best damn QB in college football. Kyler Murray controls that offense like a puppet master. Never seems to get flustered in the pocket and makes every read before taking off

(12-02-2018 09:05 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  UCF would need to score 71 to beat Oklahoma because if Memphis can drop 38 on that UCF team in a half...Oklahoma would put up 70 over 4 quarters . I dont think UCF would be with in 3 tds of Oklahoma this year.

Best damn offense in college football, and the best damn QB in college football. Kyler Murray controls that offense like a puppet master. Never seems to get flustered in the pocket and makes every read before taking off

Before they lost their starting QB, I think they could've scored 71 on Oklahoma's porus D.

Kyler Murray, and the Sooners, will get their chance to shine vs. Bama.

Thats the problem though. It shouldnt be up to what anyone thinks will happen or who they think is better. It should be decided on the field. If speculation was accurate, UCF would have been blow out by Auburn last year or Big 12 Champ Baylor in 2013. UCF won 25 games straight thats super hard regardless of who you are.

CFP are biased. The big 10 team lost to a 6-6 team. The best team Clemson played was A&M. ND should have lost several games including Vanderbilt of all people. When UAB played Texas AM we should have been ranked in the 20’s. This conclusion is supported by Texas AM being ranked the next week. I would argue that UCF has just as good as a resume compared to some of the teams.

UCF should be #4

(12-02-2018 07:07 AM)blazr Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 02:08 AM)MadEagle Wrote:  We should all email our athletic directors and demand that our conference commissioners get together and sue for inclusion. If a "G5" team can win 25 straight games and we it affects us all!, gets left out of an opportunity to compete for a national championship its a travesty! And we need to stop taken it on freaking chin! And demand a change to the system!

If we win, the P5 schools break from the NCAA and for their own organization (e.g., NAIA). Be like USFL winning $1 in damages when they sued NFL.

Not necessarily, all it takes is for the government to be behind the decision for change. One simple status change and they would negotiate and it’s the elephant in the room. If they pull away and start their own league, change the institutions status from Non-Profit to For Profit and they’ll change their tune real quick. In reality they already are for profit, this just makes it official. Spending billions and billions on facilities to stay ahead of showing a profit, while increasing tuition. Wouldn’t be hard to go after

UCF would get blown out by any top 5 team.

(12-02-2018 09:12 AM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 09:05 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  UCF would need to score 71 to beat Oklahoma because if Memphis can drop 38 on that UCF team in a half...Oklahoma would put up 70 over 4 quarters . I dont think UCF would be with in 3 tds of Oklahoma this year.

Best damn offense in college football, and the best damn QB in college football. Kyler Murray controls that offense like a puppet master. Never seems to get flustered in the pocket and makes every read before taking off

Before they lost their starting QB, I think they could've scored 71 on Oklahoma's porus D.

And give up about 90.

They gave up 38 to Memphis in a half.

(12-02-2018 09:00 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(12-02-2018 08:46 AM)BlueraiderJT Wrote:  UCF could play with OU and OSU. Not UGA or Bama. I will say this though. If you don't win your conference and have 2 losses, you should not make the playoffs. It's that simple. In fact, winning your conference should be a pre-requisite to make the playoffs.

OU and OSU would whip UCF. The problem is Alabama won it as the debated #4 and not even winning their division. That just gives the CFP committee more justification to include multiple SEC teams.

After beating #4 Michigan, OSU was specifically put at #6 in the CFP rankings and not #5 in case Alabama lost to Georgia.

The best thing for the G5 might of been for Georgia to have beat Alabama and the top 4 stay in (1. Clemson, 2. Georgia, 3. Notre Dame, 4 Alabama). B12 and B10 then get super pissed and force a 8 team CFP. That would be the only way for a G5 to sneak in to the CFP.

OU went into overtime with Army. OSU lost to Purdue. You don't win your conference, you shouldn't play in the playoffs. UCF hasn't lost a game since 2016. To not give them the opportunity is lame.

It's a shame UCF can accomplish what they accomplished and not get in, but there is zero arguing that they have anything resembling a legitimate top 4 resume and I believe the playoff needs to be expanded, but none of that means I want to see a team that has decidedly no claim to a top 4 spot be given one.

And the only people supporting them getting in are doing so because they want to imagine if their team had done the same that they could get in.

There is no reasonable or objective metric by which UCF should be considered a top 4 team.