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PAC 12 Championship Game: #17 Utah vs #11 Washington
Winner to the Rose Bowl!
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RE: PAC 12 Championship Game: #17 Utah vs #11 Washington
They need to go to the highest seed's home. Attendance is awful.
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(11-30-2018 09:35 PM)Big Frog II Wrote:  They need to go to the highest seed's home. Attendance is awful.

They are waiting to move it to Vegas. But your solution is probably still the best bet.
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RE: PAC 12 Championship Game: #17 Utah vs #11 Washington
Washington scores on bizarre pick 6, ball hits Utah WR in hands, he drops it, it kicks up off his leg and in to hands of DB.

10-3 Huskies.
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RE: PAC 12 Championship Game: #17 Utah vs #11 Washington
Washington benefits from bizarre pick 6 and no-call PI on last play and beat Utah 10-3 to win the PAC.

Just 6 offensive points scored.

Washington goes to Rose Bowl for first time in 18 years.
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Not sure if you could hear at home, but both fan bases stayed through the trophy presentation to boo Larry Scott.
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(11-30-2018 11:49 PM)jrj84105 Wrote:  Not sure if you could hear at home, but both fan bases stayed through the trophy presentation to boo Larry Scott.

Just think if Larry had enough thought to forget the LHN and take the Texoma 4.
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RE: PAC 12 Championship Game: #17 Utah vs #11 Washington
(12-01-2018 12:43 AM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 11:49 PM)jrj84105 Wrote:  Not sure if you could hear at home, but both fan bases stayed through the trophy presentation to boo Larry Scott.

Just think if Larry had enough thought to forget the LHN and take the Texoma 4.

Saying this in every thread still doesn't make it true. The Longhorn Network wasn't what turned horns down on the Pac-16, it was the pressure to try to force Baylor on the Pac-10 over Colorado.

https://247sports.com/college/usc/Articl...104724797/

And that wasn't Larry Scott, that was the presidents. They were so sure they didn't want Baylor that they invited Colorado to make sure the other schools knew that Baylor was a no-go. Utah only got invited once Texas decided (or was told) they weren't leaving Baylor behind.

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RE: PAC 12 Championship Game: #17 Utah vs #11 Washington
So, the team that finished 10th in the SEC (Auburn) beat the PAC 12 Champion. Hmm....
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RE: PAC 12 Championship Game: #17 Utah vs #11 Washington
(12-01-2018 01:40 AM)JRsec Wrote:  So, the team that finished 10th in the SEC (Auburn) beat the PAC 12 Champion. Hmm....

Logical fallacy.
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The crowd feed for when Scott took the mike
https://mobile.twitter.com/bubbaprog/sta...09/video/1
12-01-2018 08:33 AM
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Why would anyone in the Big 12 join that conference? TV deal is subpar, the schools are too far away, and the commissioner is terrible.
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(12-01-2018 10:14 AM)Big Frog II Wrote:  Why would anyone in the Big 12 join that conference? TV deal is subpar, the schools are too far away, and the commissioner is terrible.

Yes, when the PAC almost gutted the Big 12, the Big 12 was seemingly on life support. But now, it is firing on all cylinders, on the field and in revenue.

Those who think the Big 12 is unstable are just not paying attention.
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RE: PAC 12 Championship Game: #17 Utah vs #11 Washington
Hot take: neither of those schools would have won
The AAC or the MWC. Might have 2-3 losses in conference
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(12-01-2018 10:24 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Hot take: neither of those schools would have won
The AAC or the MWC. Might have 2-3 losses in conference

Your take is garbage. In the MWC where a good team gets to rest 6 weeks out of the year; it doesn’t limp into a CCG minus QB1, RB1, RB2, WR1, OG1, and OT2.
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(12-01-2018 08:22 AM)72Tiger Wrote:  
(12-01-2018 01:40 AM)JRsec Wrote:  So, the team that finished 10th in the SEC (Auburn) beat the PAC 12 Champion. Hmm....

Logical fallacy.

Hogwash! The PAC's whole OOC record speaks for itself this year. They should have had a scheduling agreement with the ACC.
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(12-01-2018 10:23 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-01-2018 10:14 AM)Big Frog II Wrote:  Why would anyone in the Big 12 join that conference? TV deal is subpar, the schools are too far away, and the commissioner is terrible.

Yes, when the PAC almost gutted the Big 12, the Big 12 was seemingly on life support. But now, it is firing on all cylinders, on the field and in revenue.

Those who think the Big 12 is unstable are just not paying attention.

It wasn't dead last in revenue when it was falling apart. And in 2010 the product on field was every bit as good as it is now, if not better. Their revenue was right where it is now, a solid third among the P5. The issues that pushed the Big 12 apart are still viable. The latest iteration of it is the scandal over the Horns Down penalty that has been instilled into Big 12 rules mid season.

Perceived and real deference to Texas is one of two sources of tension among some of the members, but most palpably Oklahoma. For the little 8 the tension remains 3rd tier revenue. But due to the prospects of many of the schools not named Texas or Oklahoma 3rd tier revenue isn't enough to break the conference up. Only Oklahoma deciding they've had enough of Bevo could be the catalyst. And I'd say that's still an unknown but potentially volatile variable.

Last time it was Texas threatening to leave and then getting their own network that shook things loose. This time it is Oklahoma threatening to leave that is causing the fracking earthquakes in the Big 12.
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RE: PAC 12 Championship Game: #17 Utah vs #11 Washington
(12-01-2018 11:55 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-01-2018 08:22 AM)72Tiger Wrote:  
(12-01-2018 01:40 AM)JRsec Wrote:  So, the team that finished 10th in the SEC (Auburn) beat the PAC 12 Champion. Hmm....

Logical fallacy.

Hogwash! The PAC's whole OOC record speaks for itself this year. They should have had a scheduling agreement with the ACC.

Nope. Champions are decided by the college football playoff ranking. Washington is rated 11, and Auburn is unranked. The playoff ranking system removes all bias and gives all teams equal footing.
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(12-01-2018 01:15 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  
(12-01-2018 11:55 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-01-2018 08:22 AM)72Tiger Wrote:  
(12-01-2018 01:40 AM)JRsec Wrote:  So, the team that finished 10th in the SEC (Auburn) beat the PAC 12 Champion. Hmm....

Logical fallacy.

Hogwash! The PAC's whole OOC record speaks for itself this year. They should have had a scheduling agreement with the ACC.

Nope. Champions are decided by the college football playoff ranking. Washington is rated 11, and Auburn is unranked. The playoff ranking system removes all bias and gives all teams equal footing.

Now that's illogical and shows your reading comprehension is nil. I didn't claim that Auburn was a champion or that they were ranked 10th in the nation. I said the #10 school in the SEC defeated Washington (the PAC champion). That's a fact. It had nothing to do with the CFP rankings. "the team that finished 10th in the SEC" hasn't squat to do with the CFP rankings. Of course the #10 school in the SEC is not ranked.

Try reading and understanding a comment before you reply to it twice with a miscomprehension!
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(12-01-2018 12:43 AM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 11:49 PM)jrj84105 Wrote:  Not sure if you could hear at home, but both fan bases stayed through the trophy presentation to boo Larry Scott.

Just think if Larry had enough thought to forget the LHN and take the Texoma 4.

I never understood not taking Oklahoma and Ok State. Texas doesn't want to go West but they will still have the RRR each season. Big 12 would be an afterthought had OK left.
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