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Looking ahead to UNLV
They have a brand and a national championship banner. But really, UC should win handily.

UNLV has played every game at home so far and lost two of those. Last night they went down to Valpo. They haven't played a single team from a "power conference"; the Big East or AAC either.

Seems to me this one would be a decent win but a questionable loss.
 
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This would be a bad loss. I was looking at their schedule so far. Not good. Granted, the place may be rocking saturday, and we may struggle early-but we should definitely beat these guys. If we lose it will be an upset.
 
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I think the game comes down to a couple things:
- How well does Jarron play? Does he get in foul trouble early or does he help the team get off to a fast start?
- Can our defense hold off UNLV's Clyburn and Juiston to a slow start?
- Can our bench score and can we overcome their height?
- Don't foul Clyburn (he's shooting 95% from the line 18/19 on the year...wish we had some players that consistent).

UNLV is a tall squad - not Taco Fall tall, but still no one is shorter than 6'1".

Overall, should be a good game. I think Cronin will have the team ready. These next five, just focus one game at a time and I think the team can get through this stretch mostly unscathed.
 
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(11-29-2018 09:53 PM)bearcatseminole Wrote:  I think the game comes down to a couple things:
- How well does Jarron play? Does he get in foul trouble early or does he help the team get off to a fast start?
- Can our defense hold off UNLV's Clyburn and Juiston to a slow start?
- Can our bench score and can we overcome their height?
- Don't foul Clyburn (he's shooting 95% from the line 18/19 on the year...wish we had some players that consistent).

UNLV is a tall squad - not Taco Fall tall, but still no one is shorter than 6'1".

Overall, should be a good game. I think Cronin will have the team ready. These next five, just focus one game at a time and I think the team can get through this stretch mostly unscathed.

i can't find any video but i remember us crushing those shawn marion and kaspars kambala teams in the late 90's
 
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i love the mountain west, but how in the world are they getting five stars? don't you just go to gonzaga?
 
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(11-29-2018 10:32 PM)Lush Wrote:  i love the mountain west, but how in the world are they getting five stars? don't you just go to gonzaga?

Great facilities, good tradition, good local talent, and Vegas baby!

Btw, we could get five stars, we just chose not to.
 
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(11-30-2018 09:05 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Btw, we could get five stars, we just chose not to.

This.
 
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Sort of a homecoming for Mickey. I expect he gets a warm welcome.
 
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(11-30-2018 09:05 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(11-29-2018 10:32 PM)Lush Wrote:  i love the mountain west, but how in the world are they getting five stars? don't you just go to gonzaga?

Great facilities, good tradition, good local talent, and Vegas baby!

Btw, we could get five stars, we just chose not to.

maybe facilities but none of those other things. what storied programs hail from the mountain? unlv is only slightly relevant
 
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(11-30-2018 09:22 AM)Marcus Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 09:05 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Btw, we could get five stars, we just chose not to.

This.

You guys care to elaborate?
 
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(11-30-2018 02:49 PM)levydl Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 09:22 AM)Marcus Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 09:05 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Btw, we could get five stars, we just chose not to.

This.

You guys care to elaborate?

we choose not to pay them?
 
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(11-30-2018 03:37 PM)Lush Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 02:49 PM)levydl Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 09:22 AM)Marcus Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 09:05 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Btw, we could get five stars, we just chose not to.

This.

You guys care to elaborate?

we choose not to pay them?

It's not that at all.
 
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(11-30-2018 03:45 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 03:37 PM)Lush Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 02:49 PM)levydl Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 09:22 AM)Marcus Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 09:05 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Btw, we could get five stars, we just chose not to.

This.

You guys care to elaborate?

we choose not to pay them?

It's not that at all.

I've long believed that we play a style of basketball that 5 star players want no part of. We play defense oriented basketball that is quite boring to watch. Mick also seems to take the easy path to recruiting and goes after guys he knows he can get, he does not try and get the big time recruits.
 
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(11-30-2018 03:48 PM)Banter Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 03:45 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 03:37 PM)Lush Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 02:49 PM)levydl Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 09:22 AM)Marcus Wrote:  This.

You guys care to elaborate?

we choose not to pay them?

It's not that at all.

I've long believed that we play a style of basketball that 5 star players want no part of. We play defense oriented basketball that is quite boring to watch. Mick also seems to take the easy path to recruiting and goes after guys he knows he can get, he does not try and get the big time recruits.

Yes, I know some people think that those are two of the problems with Cronin's recruiting.

I was wondering what the posters meant when they said Cronin chooses not to get 5 stars.
 
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Let's just go out and grab some five stars and maybe we'll have success in March. How hard can that be?
 
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(11-30-2018 03:48 PM)Banter Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 03:45 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 03:37 PM)Lush Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 02:49 PM)levydl Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 09:22 AM)Marcus Wrote:  This.

You guys care to elaborate?

we choose not to pay them?

It's not that at all.

I've long believed that we play a style of basketball that 5 star players want no part of. We play defense oriented basketball that is quite boring to watch. Mick also seems to take the easy path to recruiting and goes after guys he knows he can get, he does not try and get the big time recruits.

Pretty much agree with all this.
 
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(11-30-2018 05:03 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 03:48 PM)Banter Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 03:45 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 03:37 PM)Lush Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 02:49 PM)levydl Wrote:  You guys care to elaborate?

we choose not to pay them?

It's not that at all.

I've long believed that we play a style of basketball that 5 star players want no part of. We play defense oriented basketball that is quite boring to watch. Mick also seems to take the easy path to recruiting and goes after guys he knows he can get, he does not try and get the big time recruits.

Pretty much agree with all this.

But at the end of the day, we still put players in the NBA.
 
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(11-30-2018 05:03 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 03:48 PM)Banter Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 03:45 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 03:37 PM)Lush Wrote:  
(11-30-2018 02:49 PM)levydl Wrote:  You guys care to elaborate?

we choose not to pay them?

It's not that at all.

I've long believed that we play a style of basketball that 5 star players want no part of. We play defense oriented basketball that is quite boring to watch. Mick also seems to take the easy path to recruiting and goes after guys he knows he can get, he does not try and get the big time recruits.

Pretty much agree with all this.

I see. Maybe you're correct, but it's a speculative take, and I thought maybe you had some more concrete insight about why Cronin chooses not to get 5 stars.
 
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Mick Cronin considers Las Vegas his second home, saying the only city where he spends more time is Cincinnati.


Two and a half years ago, Las Vegas could have been his primary residence.

UNLV offered him its basketball coaching job, but Cronin decided to remain with the Bearcats, whom he will lead into the Thomas & Mack Center to play UNLV (4-2) at 3 p.m. Saturday. CBS Sports Network will televise the game.

What kind of atmosphere greets Cronin is uncertain. UNLV fans probably won’t be shy to boo him, but there likely won’t be many of them in attendance.

“For me, I don’t really worry about stuff like that even at home,” Cronin said. “I think you can’t coach for those type of things.”
Cronin said he’s good friends with UNLV coach Marvin Menzies and his wife, Tammy. The home-and-home arrangement — the Rebels play there next season — was scheduled because Cronin also is friends with UNLV athletic director Desiree Reed-Francois.

“So I figured I owed UNLV one,” Cronin said.
Cronin, 47, leads a Cincinnati team that is 6-1 and has made the past eight NCAA Tournaments. In his 12-plus seasons at his alma mater, he is 274-141.

It was a strong enough resume to attract UNLV’s attention in 2016. The question that has lingered since the job offer was rejected was how much interest did Cronin truly have in the job.

“It was real,” he said. “I had been here 10 years. It was a real assessment of my life and where I was at at the time. Like I said, I’ve got a lot of friends there. (Former UNLV assistants) Tim Grgurich and Mark Warkentien are both very close friends and mentors of mine as a young coach. I grew up coaching at (Cincinnati’s) Woodward High School, and we ran UNLV’s offense and defense. I was a huge fan and got to know the staff really well in their heyday.

“I’m a weird guy in that I don’t get caught up in Power Five stuff. For me, it’s about places where I’m comfortable living in, places you think you can be successful and where you know people. So that’s all what made it very real for me.”

Cronin said he decided he couldn’t leave his daughter, Samantha, with whom he shares custody with his ex-wife. He said his ex-wife had shown prior interest in moving even though they aren’t together, but not at that time.
Those involved in the search for UNLV didn’t go on record as to what happened behind the scenes, but there is a split between those who think Cronin used the Rebels as leverage for a better deal at Cincinnati and those who believe he seriously considered the offer.
Cronin said he didn’t get a raise by the Bearcats for staying, but two years were added to his contract.

As for whether he accepted UNLV’s offer, Rebels boosters Tom Jingoli and Bill Paulos told the Review-Journal in early November that Cronin said he was taking the job.

Cronin told the Cincinnati Enquirer shortly after turning down UNLV that he “never officially accepted.”

“That’s what I’m not going to get into,” Cronin said Thursday. “I can just tell you I don’t lie. I’ve never lied. There’s nothing to lie about.”
Tina Kunzer-Murphy, then UNLV’s athletic director, complained at the time that she read about Cronin’s decision on social media.

“Something got leaked two minutes before I was calling,” Cronin said. “Tina and I have talked many times since. I’ve got nothing but love for Tina. We’re all past it.

“Anything to the contrary of that, who called when, none of that matters at the end of the day. There are a lot of things that are a lot more important in the world than that.”

Kunzer-Murphy agreed the two have become friends.

“Mick and I have stayed in touch, and we got a chance to visit this summer in Del Mar (Thoroughbred Club),” she said in a text message.
 
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(12-01-2018 07:42 AM)doss2 Wrote:  Mick Cronin considers Las Vegas his second home, saying the only city where he spends more time is Cincinnati.


Two and a half years ago, Las Vegas could have been his primary residence.

UNLV offered him its basketball coaching job, but Cronin decided to remain with the Bearcats, whom he will lead into the Thomas & Mack Center to play UNLV (4-2) at 3 p.m. Saturday. CBS Sports Network will televise the game.

What kind of atmosphere greets Cronin is uncertain. UNLV fans probably won’t be shy to boo him, but there likely won’t be many of them in attendance.

“For me, I don’t really worry about stuff like that even at home,” Cronin said. “I think you can’t coach for those type of things.”
Cronin said he’s good friends with UNLV coach Marvin Menzies and his wife, Tammy. The home-and-home arrangement — the Rebels play there next season — was scheduled because Cronin also is friends with UNLV athletic director Desiree Reed-Francois.

“So I figured I owed UNLV one,” Cronin said.
Cronin, 47, leads a Cincinnati team that is 6-1 and has made the past eight NCAA Tournaments. In his 12-plus seasons at his alma mater, he is 274-141.

It was a strong enough resume to attract UNLV’s attention in 2016. The question that has lingered since the job offer was rejected was how much interest did Cronin truly have in the job.

“It was real,” he said. “I had been here 10 years. It was a real assessment of my life and where I was at at the time. Like I said, I’ve got a lot of friends there. (Former UNLV assistants) Tim Grgurich and Mark Warkentien are both very close friends and mentors of mine as a young coach. I grew up coaching at (Cincinnati’s) Woodward High School, and we ran UNLV’s offense and defense. I was a huge fan and got to know the staff really well in their heyday.

“I’m a weird guy in that I don’t get caught up in Power Five stuff. For me, it’s about places where I’m comfortable living in, places you think you can be successful and where you know people. So that’s all what made it very real for me.”

Cronin said he decided he couldn’t leave his daughter, Samantha, with whom he shares custody with his ex-wife. He said his ex-wife had shown prior interest in moving even though they aren’t together, but not at that time.
Those involved in the search for UNLV didn’t go on record as to what happened behind the scenes, but there is a split between those who think Cronin used the Rebels as leverage for a better deal at Cincinnati and those who believe he seriously considered the offer.
Cronin said he didn’t get a raise by the Bearcats for staying, but two years were added to his contract.

As for whether he accepted UNLV’s offer, Rebels boosters Tom Jingoli and Bill Paulos told the Review-Journal in early November that Cronin said he was taking the job.

Cronin told the Cincinnati Enquirer shortly after turning down UNLV that he “never officially accepted.”

“That’s what I’m not going to get into,” Cronin said Thursday. “I can just tell you I don’t lie. I’ve never lied. There’s nothing to lie about.”
Tina Kunzer-Murphy, then UNLV’s athletic director, complained at the time that she read about Cronin’s decision on social media.

“Something got leaked two minutes before I was calling,” Cronin said. “Tina and I have talked many times since. I’ve got nothing but love for Tina. We’re all past it.

“Anything to the contrary of that, who called when, none of that matters at the end of the day. There are a lot of things that are a lot more important in the world than that.”

Kunzer-Murphy agreed the two have become friends.

“Mick and I have stayed in touch, and we got a chance to visit this summer in Del Mar (Thoroughbred Club),” she said in a text message.
Doss, this is a wonderful and touching piece. I didn't realize you had journalistic chops. Well done!
 
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