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RE: Houston to ECU?
(12-02-2019 01:58 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 12:06 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 08:29 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 11:04 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  Each coach since Matthews has taken the program to new heights. The progression has been amazing. Houston has had the most success but with Cig, we are winning games by a large margin and our offense appears to be better. Winning a N.C. in his first year would put him slightly ahead of Houston.

The disappointing part about Houston is he turned out to not be the man we all thought he was. All his talk was just rhetoric. The way he left was a circus. I have no grudge with him improving his lot in life just the way he did it.

The guy at NDSU did it the right way. There were no distractions with his leaving.

Just curious, why do you think Kleiman did it the right way and Houston did it the wrong way? Kleiman accepted the job 3 days after their quarterfinal win and 4 days before their semifinal against SD State.

According to sources, Houston had the Charlotte job offer leaked in order to get ECU to make an offer. Kleiman waited until he accepted the job to allow it to become public. Houston’s job search was played out publicly. Kleiman’s was not.

I believe the uncertainty with Houston’s tenure led to distractions for his players. Kleiman’s players were not distracted by his job search.

“Sources” eh? Interesting. The take most of us read/heard was that UNCC leaked their offer to try and leverage MH to announce his decision and sign earlier. UNCC’S move backfired. The sequence of events was not something MH controlled.

You can believe if you like that MH was the victim here, but that is very naive. MH wound up exactly where he wanted to be by the information becoming public.......who got what they wanted....UNCC had nothing to gain from leaking but MH and his agent had everything to gain by applying pressure for ECU to react/act earlier than they wanted.
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RE: Houston to ECU?
A lot of people on here "KNOW" stuff that is total conjecture. Believe whatever you want but it is only your opinion not fact.
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RE: Houston to ECU?
(12-02-2019 10:40 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 01:58 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 12:06 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 08:29 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 11:04 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  Each coach since Matthews has taken the program to new heights. The progression has been amazing. Houston has had the most success but with Cig, we are winning games by a large margin and our offense appears to be better. Winning a N.C. in his first year would put him slightly ahead of Houston.

The disappointing part about Houston is he turned out to not be the man we all thought he was. All his talk was just rhetoric. The way he left was a circus. I have no grudge with him improving his lot in life just the way he did it.

The guy at NDSU did it the right way. There were no distractions with his leaving.

Just curious, why do you think Kleiman did it the right way and Houston did it the wrong way? Kleiman accepted the job 3 days after their quarterfinal win and 4 days before their semifinal against SD State.

According to sources, Houston had the Charlotte job offer leaked in order to get ECU to make an offer. Kleiman waited until he accepted the job to allow it to become public. Houston’s job search was played out publicly. Kleiman’s was not.

I believe the uncertainty with Houston’s tenure led to distractions for his players. Kleiman’s players were not distracted by his job search.

“Sources” eh? Interesting. The take most of us read/heard was that UNCC leaked their offer to try and leverage MH to announce his decision and sign earlier. UNCC’S move backfired. The sequence of events was not something MH controlled.

You can believe if you like that MH was the victim here, but that is very naive. MH wound up exactly where he wanted to be by the information becoming public.......who got what they wanted....UNCC had nothing to gain from leaking but MH and his agent had everything to gain by applying pressure for ECU to react/act earlier than they wanted.

While most Charlotte fans weren't happy with the way things happened, and you can pick whichever side you want to believe on this topic; I think almost all Charlotte fans today are very pleased with how things turned out afterwards.

There was a lot of rancor here over him considering the Charlotte job in the first place, but I think we all can find some common ground and can take a moment to enjoy the fact that it hasn't been a cakewalk for Houston and ECU, for at least this year.
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RE: Houston to ECU?
(12-02-2019 10:37 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 10:30 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 12:06 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 08:29 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 11:04 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  Each coach since Matthews has taken the program to new heights. The progression has been amazing. Houston has had the most success but with Cig, we are winning games by a large margin and our offense appears to be better. Winning a N.C. in his first year would put him slightly ahead of Houston.

The disappointing part about Houston is he turned out to not be the man we all thought he was. All his talk was just rhetoric. The way he left was a circus. I have no grudge with him improving his lot in life just the way he did it.

The guy at NDSU did it the right way. There were no distractions with his leaving.

Just curious, why do you think Kleiman did it the right way and Houston did it the wrong way? Kleiman accepted the job 3 days after their quarterfinal win and 4 days before their semifinal against SD State.

According to sources, Houston had the Charlotte job offer leaked in order to get ECU to make an offer. Kleiman waited until he accepted the job to allow it to become public. Houston’s job search was played out publicly. Kleiman’s was not.

I believe the uncertainty with Houston’s tenure led to distractions for his players. Kleiman’s players were not distracted by his job search.

Well a source that has spoken out about it who would probably know more than internet rumors is Brian McLaughlin from Herosports. He has been very outspoken about it and has said that Houston did no such thing. He had interviewed at the Charlotte job and told them he wanted to keep it quiet. Charlotte couldn't keep their mouth shut and went against their word and leaked it. Houston was angry and pulled the offer. The rest is history.
If you want to believe Houston would leak a coaching job to the press and ruin the season he had been building then so be it. I would much rather believe a guy without a horse in the race that actually knows what happened. Brian hasn't done anything to make me believe he is just lying to protect Houston. That's ridiculous.

What motivation would Charlotte have for leaking it if it was a done deal?!?!

Because it was not a done deal and Charlotte knew that there was going to be another suitor and wanted to put pressure on Houston to sign on the dotted line. Not saying that is fact, but is perfectly plausible.

As for the other stuff with MH, heard about it but no way to really know for sure.
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RE: Houston to ECU?
(12-02-2019 01:53 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 10:37 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 10:30 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 12:06 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 08:29 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Just curious, why do you think Kleiman did it the right way and Houston did it the wrong way? Kleiman accepted the job 3 days after their quarterfinal win and 4 days before their semifinal against SD State.

According to sources, Houston had the Charlotte job offer leaked in order to get ECU to make an offer. Kleiman waited until he accepted the job to allow it to become public. Houston’s job search was played out publicly. Kleiman’s was not.

I believe the uncertainty with Houston’s tenure led to distractions for his players. Kleiman’s players were not distracted by his job search.

Well a source that has spoken out about it who would probably know more than internet rumors is Brian McLaughlin from Herosports. He has been very outspoken about it and has said that Houston did no such thing. He had interviewed at the Charlotte job and told them he wanted to keep it quiet. Charlotte couldn't keep their mouth shut and went against their word and leaked it. Houston was angry and pulled the offer. The rest is history.
If you want to believe Houston would leak a coaching job to the press and ruin the season he had been building then so be it. I would much rather believe a guy without a horse in the race that actually knows what happened. Brian hasn't done anything to make me believe he is just lying to protect Houston. That's ridiculous.

What motivation would Charlotte have for leaking it if it was a done deal?!?!

Because it was not a done deal and Charlotte knew that there was going to be another suitor and wanted to put pressure on Houston to sign on the dotted line. Not saying that is fact, but is perfectly plausible.

As for the other stuff with MH, heard about it but no way to really know for sure.

We took a finished contract to our Board of Trustees for their approval the day the "leak" happened. You don't present a finished contract for final approval if the other party is still negotiating terms. Houston and his agent clearly told our people go for it, then used that as leverage with ECU.
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RE: Houston to ECU?
(12-02-2019 07:05 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 01:58 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 12:06 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 08:29 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 11:04 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  Each coach since Matthews has taken the program to new heights. The progression has been amazing. Houston has had the most success but with Cig, we are winning games by a large margin and our offense appears to be better. Winning a N.C. in his first year would put him slightly ahead of Houston.

The disappointing part about Houston is he turned out to not be the man we all thought he was. All his talk was just rhetoric. The way he left was a circus. I have no grudge with him improving his lot in life just the way he did it.

The guy at NDSU did it the right way. There were no distractions with his leaving.

Just curious, why do you think Kleiman did it the right way and Houston did it the wrong way? Kleiman accepted the job 3 days after their quarterfinal win and 4 days before their semifinal against SD State.

According to sources, Houston had the Charlotte job offer leaked in order to get ECU to make an offer. Kleiman waited until he accepted the job to allow it to become public. Houston’s job search was played out publicly. Kleiman’s was not.

I believe the uncertainty with Houston’s tenure led to distractions for his players. Kleiman’s players were not distracted by his job search.

“Sources” eh? Interesting. The take most of us read/heard was that UNCC leaked their offer to try and leverage MH to announce his decision and sign earlier. UNCC’S move backfired. The sequence of events was not something MH controlled.

Houston- Mr "Lock the d*mn gates" must be a good actor then because he didn't seem too bothered by the UNCC news being leaked and said he was considering the job all during the week of prep for his team's playoff game at Colgate.

I think he comes off as a bit of a phony with how things played out. Whatever the case the going rate is for FBS coaches to get 3-4 years before they are fired. He will have 2 or 3 more years to at least get ECU to a bowl. They've lost a couple of commits and a transfer or two so we'll see how the off season plays out. The big one for them is the WR. If he stays there I'm not sure he stays all 4 years before turning pro.

You apparently missed the video news reports interviewing MH that I watched. In those interviews MH wasn’t happy and it darn sure didn’t strike me as “acting.” Then again, this is all ancient history now, right? I mean what difference does make? MH took JMU to back-to-back NC games, and won one. If JMU receivers could hold onto a ball JMU would have won both.
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RE: Houston to ECU?
(12-02-2019 01:58 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 01:53 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 10:37 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 10:30 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 12:06 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  According to sources, Houston had the Charlotte job offer leaked in order to get ECU to make an offer. Kleiman waited until he accepted the job to allow it to become public. Houston’s job search was played out publicly. Kleiman’s was not.

I believe the uncertainty with Houston’s tenure led to distractions for his players. Kleiman’s players were not distracted by his job search.

Well a source that has spoken out about it who would probably know more than internet rumors is Brian McLaughlin from Herosports. He has been very outspoken about it and has said that Houston did no such thing. He had interviewed at the Charlotte job and told them he wanted to keep it quiet. Charlotte couldn't keep their mouth shut and went against their word and leaked it. Houston was angry and pulled the offer. The rest is history.
If you want to believe Houston would leak a coaching job to the press and ruin the season he had been building then so be it. I would much rather believe a guy without a horse in the race that actually knows what happened. Brian hasn't done anything to make me believe he is just lying to protect Houston. That's ridiculous.

What motivation would Charlotte have for leaking it if it was a done deal?!?!

Because it was not a done deal and Charlotte knew that there was going to be another suitor and wanted to put pressure on Houston to sign on the dotted line. Not saying that is fact, but is perfectly plausible.

As for the other stuff with MH, heard about it but no way to really know for sure.

We took a finished contract to our Board of Trustees for their approval the day the "leak" happened. You don't present a finished contract for final approval if the other party is still negotiating terms. Houston and his agent clearly told our people go for it, then used that as leverage with ECU.

And you know this for a certainty, how? You’re part of the UNCC President’s office that helped prepare the contract? I call BS. Contract TERMS are reviewed and approved first by the controlling authorities, then they are signed. MH was still negotiating, and had not signed off.

But UNCC decided to try and strong-arm MH into signing. MH may have been ready to sign, however, he didn’t want to sign and didn’t want the news of the contract made public until after he was finished with the playoff season at JMU. UNCC jumped the gun and leaked the news because they were fearful they’d lose MH to ECU. The move backfired.
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RE: Houston to ECU?
(12-02-2019 02:15 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 01:58 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 01:53 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 10:37 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 10:30 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  Well a source that has spoken out about it who would probably know more than internet rumors is Brian McLaughlin from Herosports. He has been very outspoken about it and has said that Houston did no such thing. He had interviewed at the Charlotte job and told them he wanted to keep it quiet. Charlotte couldn't keep their mouth shut and went against their word and leaked it. Houston was angry and pulled the offer. The rest is history.
If you want to believe Houston would leak a coaching job to the press and ruin the season he had been building then so be it. I would much rather believe a guy without a horse in the race that actually knows what happened. Brian hasn't done anything to make me believe he is just lying to protect Houston. That's ridiculous.

What motivation would Charlotte have for leaking it if it was a done deal?!?!

Because it was not a done deal and Charlotte knew that there was going to be another suitor and wanted to put pressure on Houston to sign on the dotted line. Not saying that is fact, but is perfectly plausible.

As for the other stuff with MH, heard about it but no way to really know for sure.

We took a finished contract to our Board of Trustees for their approval the day the "leak" happened. You don't present a finished contract for final approval if the other party is still negotiating terms. Houston and his agent clearly told our people go for it, then used that as leverage with ECU.

And you know this for a certainty, how? You’re part of the UNCC President’s office that helped prepare the contract? I call BS. Contract TERMS are reviewed and approved first by the controlling authorities, then they are signed. MH was still negotiating, and had not signed off.

But UNCC decided to try and strong-arm MH into signing. MH may have been ready to sign, however, he didn’t want to sign and didn’t want the news of the contract made public until after he was finished with the playoff season at JMU. UNCC jumped the gun and leaked the news because they were fearful they’d lose MH to ECU. The move backfired.

I'm not even sure why any of you would feel the need defend him and his agent at this point since most of you were offended by him even looking into Charlotte at the time, but to each their own.

Not here to stir the pot!

Good luck in the playoffs.
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RE: Houston to ECU?
(12-02-2019 02:21 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 02:15 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 01:58 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 01:53 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 10:37 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  What motivation would Charlotte have for leaking it if it was a done deal?!?!

Because it was not a done deal and Charlotte knew that there was going to be another suitor and wanted to put pressure on Houston to sign on the dotted line. Not saying that is fact, but is perfectly plausible.

As for the other stuff with MH, heard about it but no way to really know for sure.

We took a finished contract to our Board of Trustees for their approval the day the "leak" happened. You don't present a finished contract for final approval if the other party is still negotiating terms. Houston and his agent clearly told our people go for it, then used that as leverage with ECU.

And you know this for a certainty, how? You’re part of the UNCC President’s office that helped prepare the contract? I call BS. Contract TERMS are reviewed and approved first by the controlling authorities, then they are signed. MH was still negotiating, and had not signed off.

But UNCC decided to try and strong-arm MH into signing. MH may have been ready to sign, however, he didn’t want to sign and didn’t want the news of the contract made public until after he was finished with the playoff season at JMU. UNCC jumped the gun and leaked the news because they were fearful they’d lose MH to ECU. The move backfired.

I'm not even sure why any of you would feel the need defend him and his agent at this point since most of you were offended by him even looking into Charlotte at the time, but to each their own.

Not here to stir the pot!

Good luck in the playoffs.

There are some JMU fans who felt betrayed by the move, and in particular the timing of the move, but the majority of JMU fans knew he would eventually move on to a bigger paycheck FBS job if he continued to be successful. The idea of MH moving to UNCC was a bit of a surprise as that move seemed a rather limited step-up. The ECU job seemed more appropriate given his talents and ambitions.
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RE: Houston to ECU?
(12-02-2019 02:21 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 02:15 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 01:58 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 01:53 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 10:37 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  What motivation would Charlotte have for leaking it if it was a done deal?!?!

Because it was not a done deal and Charlotte knew that there was going to be another suitor and wanted to put pressure on Houston to sign on the dotted line. Not saying that is fact, but is perfectly plausible.

As for the other stuff with MH, heard about it but no way to really know for sure.

We took a finished contract to our Board of Trustees for their approval the day the "leak" happened. You don't present a finished contract for final approval if the other party is still negotiating terms. Houston and his agent clearly told our people go for it, then used that as leverage with ECU.

And you know this for a certainty, how? You’re part of the UNCC President’s office that helped prepare the contract? I call BS. Contract TERMS are reviewed and approved first by the controlling authorities, then they are signed. MH was still negotiating, and had not signed off.

But UNCC decided to try and strong-arm MH into signing. MH may have been ready to sign, however, he didn’t want to sign and didn’t want the news of the contract made public until after he was finished with the playoff season at JMU. UNCC jumped the gun and leaked the news because they were fearful they’d lose MH to ECU. The move backfired.

I'm not even sure why any of you would feel the need defend him and his agent at this point since most of you were offended by him even looking into Charlotte at the time, but to each their own.

Not here to stir the pot!

Good luck in the playoffs.

Not offended. Appreciative on what he accomplished here, and wish him well going forward. Although I apparently am in the minority.

Give me a Houston for the basketball program and I'll be a happy Dukester. 03-cloud9
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RE: Houston to ECU?
(12-02-2019 02:28 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 02:21 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 02:15 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 01:58 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 01:53 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  Because it was not a done deal and Charlotte knew that there was going to be another suitor and wanted to put pressure on Houston to sign on the dotted line. Not saying that is fact, but is perfectly plausible.

As for the other stuff with MH, heard about it but no way to really know for sure.

We took a finished contract to our Board of Trustees for their approval the day the "leak" happened. You don't present a finished contract for final approval if the other party is still negotiating terms. Houston and his agent clearly told our people go for it, then used that as leverage with ECU.

And you know this for a certainty, how? You’re part of the UNCC President’s office that helped prepare the contract? I call BS. Contract TERMS are reviewed and approved first by the controlling authorities, then they are signed. MH was still negotiating, and had not signed off.

But UNCC decided to try and strong-arm MH into signing. MH may have been ready to sign, however, he didn’t want to sign and didn’t want the news of the contract made public until after he was finished with the playoff season at JMU. UNCC jumped the gun and leaked the news because they were fearful they’d lose MH to ECU. The move backfired.

I'm not even sure why any of you would feel the need defend him and his agent at this point since most of you were offended by him even looking into Charlotte at the time, but to each their own.

Not here to stir the pot!

Good luck in the playoffs.

Not offended. Appreciative on what he accomplished here, and wish him well going forward. Although I apparently am in the minority.

Give me a Houston for the basketball program and I'll be a happy Dukester. 03-cloud9

You’re not alone in appreciating MH Dukester, and I don’t think you’re in the minority in appreciating MH either, or in hoping for a Houston to resurrect MBB. I would say before MH, JMU had a MM, so I would only amend your cloud 9 dream by wishing for a MM for JMU’s MBB program.
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(12-02-2019 02:35 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 02:28 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 02:21 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 02:15 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 01:58 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  We took a finished contract to our Board of Trustees for their approval the day the "leak" happened. You don't present a finished contract for final approval if the other party is still negotiating terms. Houston and his agent clearly told our people go for it, then used that as leverage with ECU.

And you know this for a certainty, how? You’re part of the UNCC President’s office that helped prepare the contract? I call BS. Contract TERMS are reviewed and approved first by the controlling authorities, then they are signed. MH was still negotiating, and had not signed off.

But UNCC decided to try and strong-arm MH into signing. MH may have been ready to sign, however, he didn’t want to sign and didn’t want the news of the contract made public until after he was finished with the playoff season at JMU. UNCC jumped the gun and leaked the news because they were fearful they’d lose MH to ECU. The move backfired.

I'm not even sure why any of you would feel the need defend him and his agent at this point since most of you were offended by him even looking into Charlotte at the time, but to each their own.

Not here to stir the pot!

Good luck in the playoffs.

Not offended. Appreciative on what he accomplished here, and wish him well going forward. Although I apparently am in the minority.

Give me a Houston for the basketball program and I'll be a happy Dukester. 03-cloud9

You’re not alone in appreciating MH Dukester, and I don’t think you’re in the minority in appreciating MH either, or in hoping for a Houston to resurrect MBB. I would say before MH, JMU had a MM, so I would only amend your cloud 9 dream by wishing for a MM for JMU’s MBB program.

At this point I would take a basketball version of RS, MM, EW 03-drunk, or MH in basketball. All brought great excitement to the program.
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RE: Houston to ECU?
(12-02-2019 02:58 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 02:35 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 02:28 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 02:21 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 02:15 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  And you know this for a certainty, how? You’re part of the UNCC President’s office that helped prepare the contract? I call BS. Contract TERMS are reviewed and approved first by the controlling authorities, then they are signed. MH was still negotiating, and had not signed off.

But UNCC decided to try and strong-arm MH into signing. MH may have been ready to sign, however, he didn’t want to sign and didn’t want the news of the contract made public until after he was finished with the playoff season at JMU. UNCC jumped the gun and leaked the news because they were fearful they’d lose MH to ECU. The move backfired.

I'm not even sure why any of you would feel the need defend him and his agent at this point since most of you were offended by him even looking into Charlotte at the time, but to each their own.

Not here to stir the pot!

Good luck in the playoffs.

Not offended. Appreciative on what he accomplished here, and wish him well going forward. Although I apparently am in the minority.

Give me a Houston for the basketball program and I'll be a happy Dukester. 03-cloud9

You’re not alone in appreciating MH Dukester, and I don’t think you’re in the minority in appreciating MH either, or in hoping for a Houston to resurrect MBB. I would say before MH, JMU had a MM, so I would only amend your cloud 9 dream by wishing for a MM for JMU’s MBB program.

At this point I would take a basketball version of RS, MM, EW 03-drunk, or MH in basketball. All brought great excitement to the program.

Had a lot more to work with and inherent advantages:

- relative budget compared with other schools in their division
- relative facilities compared with other schools in their division
-relative dearth/void of competition regionally and in state for recruits
-history of recent success
- quality personnel already on roster
-FBS to FCS transfer opportunity with immediate eligibility
-high level of fan support throughout community and school
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RE: Houston to ECU?
clt says Houston should have stayed at JMU. Better overall program than ecu
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RE: Houston to ECU?
(12-02-2019 06:16 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says Houston should have stayed at JMU. Better overall program than ecu

Clit is right. Houston is only the most recent in a line of misfortunates who regret leaving JMU. He signed a ten-year contract, then bolted. I believe he was as genuine as the Rolexes the hucksters on Times Square sell from their trenchcoats for $100.
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RE: Houston to ECU?
Who cares? We are 11-1, the overall #2 national seed and are 5 days away from playoff football at home in December...and, folks are still talking about Mike Houston and ECU and Charlotte and whatever?

Let's go Dukes!!
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RE: Houston to ECU?
Some of EZU's fans already want to replace Trott with ODU's blackwell 03-lmfao

https://eastcarolina.sportswar.com/mid/1...ecubanter/

Trott was our best coach from that staff IMO.

I still think MH is a good coach, who knows how to motivate players, and had a great run here while he was focused.

The issues they have run deeper than coaching. Recruits are flipping on them (presumably due to this years record), and the fanbase has not recovered. I think many people sometimes underestimate (including myself) how hard it is to recover from multiple losing seasons. If they end up with a similar record again next year, I think that could be toxic and a huge setback. They desperately need more W's.
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RE: Houston to ECU?
(12-02-2019 07:36 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Who cares? We are 11-1, the overall #2 national seed and are 5 days away from playoff football at home in December...and, folks are still talking about Mike Houston and ECU and Charlotte and whatever?

Let's go Dukes!!

True, I blame the CLT fans and the Oduh news for distracting us.

That, and most expect a blowout, without much to talk about for our first game. Apparently half the folks here have to babysit their boss's sisters kids that night, or have twiddlywinks and apple cider parties to attend to.
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RE: Houston to ECU?
(12-02-2019 07:01 PM)Purple Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 06:16 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says Houston should have stayed at JMU. Better overall program than ecu

Clit is right. Houston is only the most recent in a line of misfortunates who regret leaving JMU. He signed a ten-year contract, then bolted. I believe he was as genuine as the Rolexes the hucksters on Times Square sell from their trenchcoats for $100.

Not mad at Houston at all , that Loss vs Colgate was going to be tough regardless if he was being suited. I don't know who his agent was but it was prolly their first go around in dealing with FBS schools and just didn't communicate well. Unless we go to AAC or ACC , I expect that ever future coach will be looking for a FBS job from here. Unless we hire an FBS coach who is looking to come down and set roots.
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RE: Houston to ECU?
Interesting take that Houston interviewing during the playoffs was a distraction while Kleiman interviewing and accepting a job during the playoffs was not a distraction.

Seems like it is very similar to me. The key difference being JMU lost and ND State won.

IMO the “distraction” dialogue is just an excuse to try to rationalize the loss to Colgate. I lean toward the 5 INT’s that the Nooch threw instead of thinking the team was distracted or wasn’t prepared after a dozen games and a full season of practices.
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