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I knew 3 point shooting was bad BUT !!!
From watching I knew our three point shooting was bad. But looked at Kenpom and we are 350th out of 353. That is horrible,

In todays game mid-majors usual path to respect is by 3 point shooting. We got a long way to go. It appears our cupboard may be left empty of shooters. It might take years for whoever the coach is
11-28-2018 12:02 AM
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(11-28-2018 12:02 AM)uabbean Wrote:  From watching I knew our three point shooting was bad. But looked at Kenpom and we are 350th out of 353. That is horrible,

In todays game mid-majors usual path to respect is by 3 point shooting. We got a long way to go. It appears our cupboard may be left empty of shooters. It might take years for whoever the coach is

You Would think with the Tradition of UAB, They could do better then that,
11-28-2018 12:53 PM
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Our offense is virtually a sub-300 team in all the basic counting and advanced stats.
11-28-2018 01:19 PM
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And this has been in a very sub par schedule. I have season tickets, but I can't make it a priority in my life right now to go to a game versus a d2 school.
11-28-2018 02:26 PM
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I know I will be criticized for bringing this up, but the KenPom stats are for D1 games only. So, the West Alabama game is not included in the statistical data. UAB made 13 three-pointers in that game, which far exceeds any of our D1 games. At any rate, with the West Alabama game included, UAB’s 3pt% jumps from 22.7% to 29.5%. The ranking goes from 349th to 289th. It’s bad any way you look at it, but it’s slightly better with the West Alabama game included.
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(11-28-2018 01:19 PM)jthrashr Wrote:  Our offense is virtually a sub-300 team in all the basic counting and advanced stats.

True, but we are hitting 75.5% from the foul line, which is 41st in the country.
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Offensively we are at 29.5% for three pointers (with the West Alabama game included). However, our opponents are only hitting 29.1% of their three pointers.
11-28-2018 11:05 PM
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(11-28-2018 11:05 PM)KevMo4UAB Wrote:  Offensively we are at 29.5% for three pointers (with the West Alabama game included). However, our opponents are only hitting 29.1% of their three pointers.

Our SOS is historically weak. No reason to try to spin our stats in any positive light. This is unacceptable for a program of our caliber.
11-29-2018 01:06 AM
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We only played one DII and it was West Alabama.

No spin on stats. It is what it is.
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Using the current and historical KenPom data, which only include D1 games and goes back to 2002, UAB has never finished the season with a 3-point percentage less than 30.0%. During the 2013-2014 season, UAB shot 30.0% from 3-point land, which ranked 333rd in the nation.

Currently, UAB is at 22.7% and ranked 349th.

In that 2013-2014 season, Chad Frazier was 57-171 for 33.3%. However, Jordan Swing was only 17-80 for 21.2%. C.J. Washington was 24-74 for 32.4% and Robert Williams was 20-71 for 28.2%.
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During the 2002-2003 season, Mo Finley went 99-240 for 41.2%. During the 2007-2008 season, Robert Vaden hit 142 threes out of 355 attempts for an even 40%. Several players have finished above 40% for the season, but Mo and Vaden had some of the highest attempts.
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Doesn’t seem to have worked out real well that Rob ran off Nick, Darling and even big Frenchy (and eLavender too) so he could bring in his own players. We sure miss their shooting.
11-29-2018 06:38 PM
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(11-29-2018 06:38 PM)bftb Wrote:  Doesn’t seem to have worked out real well that Rob ran off Nick, Darling and even big Frenchy (and eLavender too) so he could bring in his own players. We sure miss their shooting.

Last season from behind the arc, Darling was 58-140 for 41.4%. Nick Norton was 50-146 for 34.2%.

Two seasons ago, Denzell Watts was 47-106 for 44.3%.
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(11-29-2018 06:38 PM)bftb Wrote:  Doesn’t seem to have worked out real well that Rob ran off Nick, Darling and even big Frenchy (and eLavender too) so he could bring in his own players. We sure miss their shooting.

this year, through 5 games, NN is averages 31 minutes per game, has hit 13 of 27 3 pointers (48%), 14 of 15 FT's, averages 5.2 assists per game (A:TO of 2:1) and 14.6 points per game.

yeah, i prefer him in green and gold
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So is there concrete evidence that Ehsan ran those players off, or is that a Blazertalk rumor that has become fact by repetition
11-29-2018 08:14 PM
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Pretty positive NN would still be here if he wanted to be.
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The only player that think was “run off” would be Lavender. It was made obvious by playing time
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Yep
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(11-29-2018 08:14 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  So is there concrete evidence that Ehsan ran those players off, or is that a Blazertalk rumor that has become fact by repetition

Well we did pick the basketball coach and save the football program, so there is that. 04-cheers
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We shot 22% from 3 tonight. 38% from the charity stripe. Yikes.
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