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(11-26-2018 01:50 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Wilder has also indicated that there are players with eligibility remaining that will not be returning.

This is the news I've been waiting for. We cannot be successful recruiting players who don't belong in the FBS.

Trying to coach some of these kids is like trying to teach William "She Bangs" Hung how to sing.



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About time Wilder takes responsibility of the quarterback position. He is stated in the latest interview that he regrets not playing LaRussa sooner or believing in BL before VT game. I take it some of the quarterbacks aren't coming back next year because Wilder said he is looking for a juco QB now.
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(11-26-2018 05:03 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  About time Wilder takes responsibility of the quarterback position. He is stated in the latest interview that he regrets not playing LaRussa sooner or believing in BL before VT game. I take it some of the quarterbacks aren't coming back next year because Wilder said he is looking for a juco QB now.

As stated earlier, I don't believe SW plays again
Drayton Arnold situation still has me scratching my head, even though I understand why it took longer for him to develop. He certainly should be there now.

Supposedly Fitz shows a lot of promise and Wolff is on the horizon.
If we are looking for a JUCO, then we must be losing at least two of Arnold, SW, and Fitz.

I have no way of knowing for sure, but knowing what I do know, and the report that Scott had to lobby hard to get BL into the lineup for VT, maybe it is time for BW to let go of the QBs and delegate that task to Scott and Whitcomb.

If we are looking for JUCOs, IMO we need to concentrate on DB and LB.
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RE: That did not take long
(11-26-2018 05:03 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  About time Wilder takes responsibility of the quarterback position. He is stated in the latest interview that he regrets not playing LaRussa sooner or believing in BL before VT game. I take it some of the quarterbacks aren't coming back next year because Wilder said he is looking for a juco QB now.

Where did he mention looking for a JUCO QB, I missed this?

If true, I worry about the status of Williams and Arnold...both gone?
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(11-26-2018 05:40 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 05:03 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  About time Wilder takes responsibility of the quarterback position. He is stated in the latest interview that he regrets not playing LaRussa sooner or believing in BL before VT game. I take it some of the quarterbacks aren't coming back next year because Wilder said he is looking for a juco QB now.

Where did he mention looking for a JUCO QB, I missed this?

If true, I worry about the status of Williams and Arnold...both gone?

His wake up show with Ted. He wants a juco QB. See video around 4:20

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Will be interesting, he essentially named wanting JUCO help for every position but RB and WR/TE, lol..
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(11-26-2018 05:34 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 05:03 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  About time Wilder takes responsibility of the quarterback position. He is stated in the latest interview that he regrets not playing LaRussa sooner or believing in BL before VT game. I take it some of the quarterbacks aren't coming back next year because Wilder said he is looking for a juco QB now.

As stated earlier, I don't believe SW plays again
Drayton Arnold situation still has me scratching my head, even though I understand why it took longer for him to develop. He certainly should be there now.

Supposedly Fitz shows a lot of promise and Wolff is on the horizon.
If we are looking for a JUCO, then we must be losing at least two of Arnold, SW, and Fitz.

I have no way of knowing for sure, but knowing what I do know, and the report that Scott had to lobby hard to get BL into the lineup for VT, maybe it is time for BW to let go of the QBs and delegate that task to Scott and Whitcomb.

If we are looking for JUCOs, IMO we need to concentrate on DB and LB.
Just my speculation but I think Williams. After the Virginia Tech game he doesn't wear the color jerseys like the other two do on the sidelines during the games. Arnold and Fitz both would signal calls but not SW. There is a video on Twitter with SW yelling out to coach Wilder after the Virginia Tech game saying this is my coach repeatedly kinda funny and childish.
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(11-26-2018 02:39 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  I think I like this. Who better to coach the line than the one calling the plays. He should know better than anyone what is expected of the line.

So when Scott was coaching OL, ODU only had 1 all-conference lineman. Malone had 4. I am not sure ODU is taking a step forward with this decision. Alas, the circle of trust must remain unbroken. 03-hissyfit
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(11-26-2018 06:20 PM)GotLabradors Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 02:39 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  I think I like this. Who better to coach the line than the one calling the plays. He should know better than anyone what is expected of the line.

So when Scott was coaching OL, ODU only had 1 all-conference lineman. Malone had 4. I am not sure ODU is taking a step forward with this decision. Alas, the circle of trust must remain unbroken. 03-hissyfit

Ummm...Scott was responsible for the superb OL that included Lowney, Mewborne, Morrell, Born, and Josh Mann. That line was better than any since, with all either NFL or near NFL caliber.
Indeed that line was every bit upper tier P5 worthy.

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(11-26-2018 06:42 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 06:20 PM)GotLabradors Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 02:39 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  I think I like this. Who better to coach the line than the one calling the plays. He should know better than anyone what is expected of the line.

So when Scott was coaching OL, ODU only had 1 all-conference lineman. Malone had 4. I am not sure ODU is taking a step forward with this decision. Alas, the circle of trust must remain unbroken. 03-hissyfit

Ummm...Scott was responsible for the superb OL that included Lowney, Mewborne, Morrell, Born, and Josh Mann. That line was better than any since, with all either NFL or near NFL caliber.
Indeed that line was every bit upper tier P5 worthy.

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Let me get this right- Wilder fires 6 but can only rehire 4. Lol that means he’s gone next year no question.
And Wilder is a QB expert and will take over QBs, that we haven’t been able to recruit, so we’re going after a JUCO, but it took a year and a half to figure out that Williams was not the P5 QB as Bobby announced and we are going into next year starting a walk on QB. Wow
Didn’t we just have a JUCO all American that he didn’t play?
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WHere did you get the idea we are not replacing each of the 6?
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(11-26-2018 08:47 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  WHere did you get the idea we are not replacing each of the 6?

When BW named Brian Scott as OL coach along with OC?
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(11-26-2018 08:52 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 08:47 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  WHere did you get the idea we are not replacing each of the 6?

When BW named Brian Scott as OL coach along with OC?

Scott also had TE coaching duties along with OC duties while Malone was on staff. So they're hiring a TE coach and moving Scott back to OL.
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(11-26-2018 08:55 PM)GotLabradors Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 08:52 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 08:47 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  WHere did you get the idea we are not replacing each of the 6?

When BW named Brian Scott as OL coach along with OC?

Scott also had TE coaching duties along with OC duties while Malone was on staff. So they're hiring a TE coach and moving Scott back to OL.

ahh, ok tnx
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(11-26-2018 06:42 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 06:20 PM)GotLabradors Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 02:39 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  I think I like this. Who better to coach the line than the one calling the plays. He should know better than anyone what is expected of the line.

So when Scott was coaching OL, ODU only had 1 all-conference lineman. Malone had 4. I am not sure ODU is taking a step forward with this decision. Alas, the circle of trust must remain unbroken. 03-hissyfit

Ummm...Scott was responsible for the superb OL that included Lowney, Mewborne, Morrell, Born, and Josh Mann. That line was better than any since, with all either NFL or near NFL caliber.
Indeed that line was every bit upper tier P5 worthy.

04-cheers

Ummmm.....had those linemen been P5 worthy, that's where they would have been, not at ODU. Did any of those guys make it to the NFL?
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Maybe we're going to use the OL as infrequently as we used TEs.
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(11-26-2018 08:34 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 06:42 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 06:20 PM)GotLabradors Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 02:39 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  I think I like this. Who better to coach the line than the one calling the plays. He should know better than anyone what is expected of the line.

So when Scott was coaching OL, ODU only had 1 all-conference lineman. Malone had 4. I am not sure ODU is taking a step forward with this decision. Alas, the circle of trust must remain unbroken. 03-hissyfit

Ummm...Scott was responsible for the superb OL that included Lowney, Mewborne, Morrell, Born, and Josh Mann. That line was better than any since, with all either NFL or near NFL caliber.
Indeed that line was every bit upper tier P5 worthy.

04-cheers

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If you are even almost good enough to be in the NFL , that is, for the most part, a moot point, even at this level.
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(11-26-2018 09:00 PM)GotLabradors Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 06:42 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 06:20 PM)GotLabradors Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 02:39 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  I think I like this. Who better to coach the line than the one calling the plays. He should know better than anyone what is expected of the line.

So when Scott was coaching OL, ODU only had 1 all-conference lineman. Malone had 4. I am not sure ODU is taking a step forward with this decision. Alas, the circle of trust must remain unbroken. 03-hissyfit

Ummm...Scott was responsible for the superb OL that included Lowney, Mewborne, Morrell, Born, and Josh Mann. That line was better than any since, with all either NFL or near NFL caliber.
Indeed that line was every bit upper tier P5 worthy.

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Ummmm.....had those linemen been P5 worthy, that's where they would have been, not at ODU. Did any of those guys make it to the NFL?

I think Morrell had a little time on a PS. Don't think the others did.
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(11-26-2018 09:00 PM)GotLabradors Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 06:42 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 06:20 PM)GotLabradors Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 02:39 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  I think I like this. Who better to coach the line than the one calling the plays. He should know better than anyone what is expected of the line.

So when Scott was coaching OL, ODU only had 1 all-conference lineman. Malone had 4. I am not sure ODU is taking a step forward with this decision. Alas, the circle of trust must remain unbroken. 03-hissyfit

Ummm...Scott was responsible for the superb OL that included Lowney, Mewborne, Morrell, Born, and Josh Mann. That line was better than any since, with all either NFL or near NFL caliber.
Indeed that line was every bit upper tier P5 worthy.

04-cheers

Ummmm.....had those linemen been P5 worthy, that's where they would have been, not at ODU. Did any of those guys make it to the NFL?
Josh Mann got sa tryout with the Jaguars, DJ Morrell played for the Buffalo Bills (practice squad), Jack Lowney got a tryout with the Baltimore Ravens. David Born was the best of them all before his knees ended his career in his senior season.
The point being is that no ODU Olineman has been at that level since, except maybe Nick Clarke, and they all played at the same time.
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