Thus far Va Tech is pushing around Marshall. So looking like it’ll be 4 G5s sitting home this season.

Marshall sucks.

(12-01-2018 01:24 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  Marshall sucks.

They’re 8-3.

Uggggh, Texas missed the extra point to take the lead.

If Texas beats Oklahoma, there's a good chance the Quick Lane Bowl opens up for the MAC. Alabama would have to beat Georgia, which is highly probable.

Not looking good for the MAC. Seriously.

Oklahoma beats Texas, shows decent D. Ohio State would have to BLOW out NW like they did against Michigan to have a chance to be chosen (+Alabama to beat Georgia in regulation). So this prevents the Detroit Bowl from freeing up to the MAC, as the B10 will fill it.

Memphis is beating UCF 14-0, and UCF without their QB looks like they are going to lose this game (I know, it's only 1st Q). BIG PROBLEM with UCF losing. That means the winner of Boise / Fresno goes to the NY6 bowl. Which means an extra bowl slot open for the MW -- Wyoming @ 6-6. They can fill in the MW version of the "Detroit Bowl" -- the Cheez-It Bowl where they do the same if two P5 conferences, B12 being one of them, is freed up. And it looks like it will, by Oklahoma.

This means no Detroit Bowl for the MAC + Wyoming filling in a slot. WMU & EMU's shot looks very bleak, especially with VT also taking out Marshall. Yikes.

You mean WMU or EMU ... the MAC has five primary slots this year, and two secondaries, per the official MAC news releases.

But UCF went ahead to win, Bama went ahead to win ... nervous nellies can calm down a bit until the next alarm goes off.

Detroit still MAY open up, even if the Big Ten champion goes to the Rose bowl ... one Access spot for Michigan makes it possible ... if Penn State goes to the other one, then it becomes a certainty.

Are Buffalo or Ohio fans hearing anything on which bowl they might be going to?

Quote:You mean WMU or EMU ... the MAC has five primary slots this year, and two secondaries, per the official MAC news releases.

If UCF lost, both WMU and EMU would have their chances squandered. WMU has the leg up on EMU by default between the two, but, you never know; crazier things have happened.

The MAC has *4* direct tie-ins:

Quote:– Bahamas Bowl vs. Conference USA
– Dollar General Bowl vs. Sun Belt
– Famous Idaho Potato Bowl vs. Mountain West
– Raycom Media Camellia Bowl vs. Sun Belt

The Frisco Bowl Is NOT a direct-tie in. It was aimed to be, but that changed. The MAC's (crappy looking) bowl listing isn't up to date, apparently (https://getsomemaction.com/sports/2017/1...346.aspx). The MAC is part of a Shared secondary tie-in with other G5s + BYU. Doesn't give us a real tie-in as far as trumping anyone else.

BUT, Good call on the secondary tie-in -- Boca Raton -- which CFN didn't pick up in their layout. Secondary means you rely on other conference teams falling short for a tie-in to even exist for your conference.

1 secondary (Quick Lane Bowl aka "Detroit Bowl"). Unless Ohio State jumps Oklahoma after beating 7-5 NW (who lost to 4-8 Akron) -- this one's Off The Table.
1 secondary (Boca Raton) is for AAC vs CUSA, first. With UCF going, it frees it up from AAC -- Assuming of course they don't take it instead of the other bottom-feeder Gasparillia Bowl.

We have 7 bowl-eligible teams, with 4 direct tie-ins + 1 very-possible secondary (Boca Raton):
X NIU
X Buffalo
X Toledo
- Ohio
- WMU
- EMU
- Miami-OH

So it looks good for WMU.

"1 secondary (Boca Raton) is for AAC vs CUSA, first. With UCF going, it frees it up from AAC -- Assuming of course they don't take it instead of the other bottom-feeder Gasparillia Bowl."

"Bottom-feeder" really?

Not that WMU has much chance of being in the Boca bowl.

I'd like to see UAB vs Buffalo in the boca bowl.

(12-01-2018 08:23 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Are Buffalo or Ohio fans hearing anything on which bowl they might be going to?

Frisco or Potato for Ohio.

(12-01-2018 08:48 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  

Quote:You mean WMU or EMU ... the MAC has five primary slots this year, and two secondaries, per the official MAC news releases.

If UCF lost, both WMU and EMU would have their chances squandered. WMU has the leg up on EMU by default between the two, but, you never know; crazier things have happened.

The MAC has *4* direct tie-ins:

Quote:– Bahamas Bowl vs. Conference USA
– Dollar General Bowl vs. Sun Belt
– Famous Idaho Potato Bowl vs. Mountain West
– Raycom Media Camellia Bowl vs. Sun Belt

The Frisco Bowl Is NOT a direct-tie in. It was aimed to be, but that changed. The MAC's (crappy looking) bowl listing isn't up to date, apparently (https://getsomemaction.com/sports/2017/1...346.aspx). The MAC is part of a Shared secondary tie-in with other G5s + BYU. Doesn't give us a real tie-in as far as trumping anyone else.

BUT, Good call on the secondary tie-in -- Boca Raton -- which CFN didn't pick up in their layout. Secondary means you rely on other conference teams falling short for a tie-in to even exist for your conference.

1 secondary (Quick Lane Bowl aka "Detroit Bowl"). Unless Ohio State jumps Oklahoma after beating 7-5 NW (who lost to 4-8 Akron) -- this one's Off The Table.
1 secondary (Boca Raton) is for AAC vs CUSA, first. With UCF going, it frees it up from AAC -- Assuming of course they don't take it instead of the other bottom-feeder Gasparillia Bowl.

We have 7 bowl-eligible teams, with 4 direct tie-ins + 1 very-possible secondary (Boca Raton):
X NIU
X Buffalo
X Toledo
- Ohio
- WMU
- EMU
- Miami-OH

So it looks good for WMU.

You're going to be right on OR dead wrong...

The Frisco Bowl is a little like being pregnant - it is or isn't (in this case a MAC tie-in).

(12-01-2018 09:21 PM)voss749 Wrote:  "1 secondary (Boca Raton) is for AAC vs CUSA, first. With UCF going, it frees it up from AAC -- Assuming of course they don't take it instead of the other bottom-feeder Gasparillia Bowl."

"Bottom-feeder" really?

It wasn't the Boca Raton that had to leave Florida and head to an MLS stadium in Dallas.

(12-01-2018 08:48 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  The Frisco Bowl Is NOT a direct-tie in. It was aimed to be, but that changed.

When? When was it "aimed to be"? Nobody ever said the MAC or SBC had a contractual tie in with the bowl. The announcement is just that ESPN agreed to place a SBC team in the bowl in 2017 and 2019 and the MAC in 2018.

So long as the other spot is at-large, the bowl owner is tree to make side agreements.

Quote:The MAC's (crappy looking) bowl listing isn't up to date, apparently (https://getsomemaction.com/sports/2017/1...346.aspx).

Based on what info? If CFN contradicts official announcements from the parties to contracts and formal agreements, it's CFN that is likely to be missing information, no matter how pretty their layout.

Quote: The MAC is part of a Shared secondary tie-in with other G5s + BYU. Doesn't give us a real tie-in as far as trumping anyone else.

They mentioned that SEPERATELY when they announced 2018's bowls in March of this year. The side agreement with ESPN on the Frisco Bowl could only be trumped by a previous contractual tie-in ... which we know wasn't in place.

Quote:BUT, Good call on the secondary tie-in -- Boca Raton -- which CFN didn't pick up in their layout.

Tell me you are NOT contradicting multiple official announcements from the MAC based on what the CFN says. They don't have the clout to ask to see the contracts or to talk to someone who has.

If Georgia goes to the semifinals, OU goes to the Sugar Bowl, OSU goes to the Rose Bowl, TSUN and Penn State go to Access bowls, bottom two Big Ten bowls are open.

If OSU goes to CFP, also 3 Big Ten to NY6, also two Big Ten bowls unfilled.

Only OU to the CFP puts Detroit in danger ... that pulls Texas or WVU into the Sugar Bowl, squeezing Penn State out. Then if the Big Ten puts the Detroit bowl last, it's open, if they put it second to last, it's filled.

Boca Raton might only open up if they swing a deal to open it up, so if the MAC would rather go to Boca Raton than Dallas, they might do a swap. But the MAC ain't giving that away for zero in return. But there's no fixed pick order, and in the end it's the American's call, if they want to go to the Gasparilla Bowl, that opens up Boca Raton.

ESPN's latest projections has

Miami done
Eastern maybe to Frisco
Ohio to Camellia Bowl vs Ga So
Northern to Dollar General vs Troy
Toledo to Bahamas Bowl vs Florida International
UB to Boca or Boise
Western to Boise or Frisco

QL Bowl-PURDUE VS ACC

(12-02-2018 08:59 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  ESPN's latest projections has

Miami done
Eastern maybe to Frisco
Ohio to Camellia Bowl vs Ga So
Northern to Dollar General vs Troy
Toledo to Bahamas Bowl vs Florida International
UB to Boca or Boise
Western to Boise or Frisco

QL Bowl-PURDUE VS ACC

Ohio has been in the Camellia bowl before so I don't see them there.

No Potato appearance since 2011 so none of the current kids on the roster have been to that one.

Our projection of Frisco (vs. 6-6 Tulane) would be a nice matchup in a desirable city.

The projection of Potato (vs. 7-5 SDSU) is interesting because they are a mirror of WMU. Shot out of the cannon and went 6-2, lost their last 3 of 4. But Boise... ugh.

I've seen a couple other projections of going against Army in the Armed Forces bowl, but we'd get steamrolled.

But quite honestly I'll be satisfied with any bowl after sitting out last season, and nothing is a guarantee yet.

See y'all this afternoon for the reveals.

If you watched any of the Fresno @ Boise game last night, you have to wonder who thought it was a good idea to play a December game there. The crowd was frozen, the field was frozen: it looked miserable, plus the players were taking a real beating when they hit the ground. It would be a great place for a bowl game in July.

http://www.wsfa.com/2018/12/02/georgia-s...llia-bowl/

EMU to the Camellia Bowl against Georgia Southern.

Quote:You're going to be right on OR dead wrong...

The Frisco Bowl is a little like being pregnant - it is or isn't (in this case a MAC tie-in).

It's a group tie-in... meaning the MAC doesn't Automatically get in if there's a free spot and we have one like the others. Check their site. Doesn't mean we can't. But yes, it IS like being a little pregnant! :)

Quote:http://www.wsfa.com/2018/12/02/georgia-s...llia-bowl/

EMU to the Camellia Bowl against Georgia Southern.

Nooooo! That means WMU's chances are hurt bigtime!!

(12-02-2018 02:05 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  http://www.wsfa.com/2018/12/02/georgia-s...llia-bowl/

EMU to the Camellia Bowl against Georgia Southern.

That's a great bowl for EMU and Georgia Southern will be a TOUGH opponent.

UB announces it's the Dollar General Bowl vs Troy.