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RE: What happens if an unbeaten UCF is excluded again?
The SEC would fight tooth and nail against that. They want at least 1/2 the playoff every year.
 
12-06-2018 09:44 AM
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RE: What happens if an unbeaten UCF is excluded again?
(12-06-2018 09:44 AM)Dannyboy Wrote:  The SEC would fight tooth and nail against that. They want at least 1/2 the playoff every year.

At some point, it's going to take some solidarity among the non ESPN conferences (SEC & ACC) to force through a more equitable and expanded playoff. And the keystone in that is the B1G. They're the big swinging dick that's being left out every year. I'm sure the PAC would follow their lead, and it's a no-brainer that the G5's would side with whomever is going to get them an auto-bid. The Wild Card is the B12. Like the Big Ten and PAC, they're also a Fox P5, but the cynic in me thinks that Texas and Oklahoma don't want to burn their SEC bridges since I think that's where both of them ultimately end up. The question is does the B1G have the stomach to take the lead in this fight, and nothing I've seen from them to date tells me they do. They'll just eat their **** sandwich and look down their nose at the SEC and say it just matters more to them because they have nothing else going for them.
 
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RE: What happens if an unbeaten UCF is excluded again?
Do you think the SEC Commish is really this clueless on how it all works? Probably not. They are just willing to say anything keep the outsiders looking in. I'm sure if his league was in the position of the Big 10 or PAC 10 right now, he'd be singing a different tune. I'm glad the UCF AD put him in his place.

Greg Sankey: UCF should look 'inward,' fix strength-of-schedule issues
7:21 PM ET
Associated Press

NEW YORK -- Southeastern Conference commissioner Greg Sankey on Thursday said UCF should look "inward" to address the strength-of-schedule issues that have held back the Knights in the College Football Playoff rankings.

Central Florida was ranked eighth in the final playoff rankings by the selection committee Sunday after finishing a second consecutive regular season undefeated. The top four teams made the playoff.

The Knights (12-0), who have won 25 straight games and consecutive American Athletic Conference championships, were never given any serious consideration for the playoff. They will instead play LSU in the PlayStation Fiesta Bowl.

Last season, UCF declared itself national champion following a Peach Bowl victory over Auburn to finish with a 13-0 record.

Sankey was asked about UCF at the Learfield Intercollegiate Athletics Forum. The commissioner compared UCF's situation to when the SEC placed only three teams in the NCAA men's basketball tournament in 2016.

"We weren't living up to our expectations. Rather than point to the selection committee, other people ... we looked inward and said: 'How do we adjust to the circumstances around us?'" Sankey said. "I would observe that's the challenge for everybody at the FBS level."

Sankey later told reporters the SEC encouraged its schools to start scheduling more difficult nonconference basketball games as a way to build tournament-worthy résumés.

"When it was us and when it was men's basketball, we knew we had two top-50 teams in 2015-16, which means you had virtually no top-50 wins in men's basketball," Sankey said. "How are you going to access those wins? You have to improve your nonconference schedule."

UCF athletic director Danny White has been highly critical of the playoff selections, and he objected to the comparison between college football's postseason and scheduling process and college basketball.

Nonconference football games are typically scheduled years in advance. In basketball, schedules are often completed months before the season. White also noted that 3 percent of FBS teams make the playoff while 19 percent of Division I teams make the men's NCAA tournament field of 68.

"Basketball teams are rewarded for playing tough teams such as UCF through metrics like RPI or NET, while football teams avoid us because they're concerned about the 'eye test,'" White told AP in a text message.

NCAA statistics measure strength of schedule by simple winning percentage of opponents. UCF ranked 71st out of 130 FBS teams after the regular season (.530 winning percentage by opponents), well behind most of the playoff participants and contenders, though ahead of No. 6 Ohio State (82nd, .515).

The Sagarin computer ratings put the Knights' strength of schedule even farther behind Power 5 contenders. UCF faced the 90th-ranked schedule in all Division I, including FCS, according to Sagarin. Among the top six, Clemson's schedule ranked lowest, at 48th, according to Sagarin.

Using the advanced metric S&P+, which ranks teams using play-by-play data, UCF's schedule is the 83rd-toughest in FBS, but not that far behind most of the top six teams: Ohio State is 55th; Notre Dame 61st; Oklahoma 68th; and Clemson 76th.

"As I've said many times, we are willing to play any Power 6 program in the country," White said, using the AAC's slogan. "The challenge is that not many are willing to play us."

The biggest obstacle for the Knights when it comes to the selection committee seems to be a lack of games against teams highly regarded by the committee. UCF played no opponent that finished in the committee's final top 25. The rest of the top six each faced at least two teams in the committee's final rankings.

"I don't think there are simple solutions necessarily," Sankey said. "There are solutions. One's going to have to evaluate their circumstances fully to make those decisions. My observation is there is a need to look inward. "

White, who said there is nothing UCF can do inwardly "to fix an inadequate postseason for college football," has called for an expanded playoff.

"We're at four, though," Sankey said. "Everybody walked into this with their eyes open. Strength of schedule is a part of it. Résumé is a part of it. It's not just about going undefeated in a season. That was never a criteria: If you go undefeated you're in the top four. But there are complexities to it and there are complexities that will be unique for every program."


http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...dule-issue
 
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RE: What happens if an unbeaten UCF is excluded again?
(12-06-2018 08:26 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Do you think the SEC Commish is really this clueless on how it all works? Probably not. They are just willing to say anything keep the outsiders looking in. I'm sure if his league was in the position of the Big 10 or PAC 10 right now, he'd be singing a different tune. I'm glad the UCF AD put him in his place.

Greg Sankey: UCF should look 'inward,' fix strength-of-schedule issues
7:21 PM ET
Associated Press

NEW YORK -- Southeastern Conference commissioner Greg Sankey on Thursday said UCF should look "inward" to address the strength-of-schedule issues that have held back the Knights in the College Football Playoff rankings.

Central Florida was ranked eighth in the final playoff rankings by the selection committee Sunday after finishing a second consecutive regular season undefeated. The top four teams made the playoff.

The Knights (12-0), who have won 25 straight games and consecutive American Athletic Conference championships, were never given any serious consideration for the playoff. They will instead play LSU in the PlayStation Fiesta Bowl.

Last season, UCF declared itself national champion following a Peach Bowl victory over Auburn to finish with a 13-0 record.

Sankey was asked about UCF at the Learfield Intercollegiate Athletics Forum. The commissioner compared UCF's situation to when the SEC placed only three teams in the NCAA men's basketball tournament in 2016.

"We weren't living up to our expectations. Rather than point to the selection committee, other people ... we looked inward and said: 'How do we adjust to the circumstances around us?'" Sankey said. "I would observe that's the challenge for everybody at the FBS level."

Sankey later told reporters the SEC encouraged its schools to start scheduling more difficult nonconference basketball games as a way to build tournament-worthy résumés.

"When it was us and when it was men's basketball, we knew we had two top-50 teams in 2015-16, which means you had virtually no top-50 wins in men's basketball," Sankey said. "How are you going to access those wins? You have to improve your nonconference schedule."

UCF athletic director Danny White has been highly critical of the playoff selections, and he objected to the comparison between college football's postseason and scheduling process and college basketball.

Nonconference football games are typically scheduled years in advance. In basketball, schedules are often completed months before the season. White also noted that 3 percent of FBS teams make the playoff while 19 percent of Division I teams make the men's NCAA tournament field of 68.

"Basketball teams are rewarded for playing tough teams such as UCF through metrics like RPI or NET, while football teams avoid us because they're concerned about the 'eye test,'" White told AP in a text message.

NCAA statistics measure strength of schedule by simple winning percentage of opponents. UCF ranked 71st out of 130 FBS teams after the regular season (.530 winning percentage by opponents), well behind most of the playoff participants and contenders, though ahead of No. 6 Ohio State (82nd, .515).

The Sagarin computer ratings put the Knights' strength of schedule even farther behind Power 5 contenders. UCF faced the 90th-ranked schedule in all Division I, including FCS, according to Sagarin. Among the top six, Clemson's schedule ranked lowest, at 48th, according to Sagarin.

Using the advanced metric S&P+, which ranks teams using play-by-play data, UCF's schedule is the 83rd-toughest in FBS, but not that far behind most of the top six teams: Ohio State is 55th; Notre Dame 61st; Oklahoma 68th; and Clemson 76th.

"As I've said many times, we are willing to play any Power 6 program in the country," White said, using the AAC's slogan. "The challenge is that not many are willing to play us."

The biggest obstacle for the Knights when it comes to the selection committee seems to be a lack of games against teams highly regarded by the committee. UCF played no opponent that finished in the committee's final top 25. The rest of the top six each faced at least two teams in the committee's final rankings.

"I don't think there are simple solutions necessarily," Sankey said. "There are solutions. One's going to have to evaluate their circumstances fully to make those decisions. My observation is there is a need to look inward. "

White, who said there is nothing UCF can do inwardly "to fix an inadequate postseason for college football," has called for an expanded playoff.

"We're at four, though," Sankey said. "Everybody walked into this with their eyes open. Strength of schedule is a part of it. Résumé is a part of it. It's not just about going undefeated in a season. That was never a criteria: If you go undefeated you're in the top four. But there are complexities to it and there are complexities that will be unique for every program."


http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...dule-issue

UCF coach, AD and President should be on every media outlet that will have them challenging the SEC and ACC to schedule them.
 
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