(12-04-2018 03:40 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Shady, I agree. It didn't even have to be done maliciously to Houston. Just be honest. "Coach, we respect you a ton, but feel like this is a big distraction for the team. We're going to ask Bob & Donnie to lead them up at Colgate."

I suspect Bourne considered it momentarily, but didn't think the possible negative perception (to potential coaching candidates) was worth it.

Bingo, I agree.....nothing personal Mike, but this is business and it is clear you are outta here.

(12-04-2018 03:51 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 02:31 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 02:14 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 10:11 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 08:43 PM)formerjmusprinter84 Wrote:  Excellent post.

Good post.....I don't mind any coach leaving for another opportunity. I do mind it playing out publicly during playoff preparation (not fair to the student-athletes). In hind-sight Jeff Bourne should have probably asked MH to leave and coach with in interim coach to remove the distraction.

I don't wish MH bad or well.....he is just not the JMU coach anymore so I don't really care....it is not like we are 'real' friends so see ya.

Next man up and let's get this process completed quickly.

If Bourne had done that, guess what? You still have a huge distraction. That huge distraction wasn't going away no matter what, once the cat was out of the bag.

Maybe/Maybe not.....I know 100% the source of the distraction would not have been front and center. Sure there would he HC speculation but not what it was. And JMU could have publicly started their search. Trust me the players would have seen it as removing the #1 distraction and a HC who was no longer 'All-In' with them.

Personally I think it would of been a bigger distraction if Houston left days before a game. Who would be in charge? Bob or Donnie? It would certainly change things for the players.

I'd think the players understand that Houston could leave any year. I don't think they took it as personally as many of the fans. Their focus was on this year's playoffs. Mike was a great head coach. To all the sudden have a interim new coach would of been a major disruption for the team and remaining coaches.

While I wish we had won to play NDSU, I really would of liked to have won to see if Mike would of coached against NDSU.

Well not what I have heard from players and players parents.

(12-04-2018 04:15 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 03:51 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 02:31 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 02:14 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 10:11 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  Good post.....I don't mind any coach leaving for another opportunity. I do mind it playing out publicly during playoff preparation (not fair to the student-athletes). In hind-sight Jeff Bourne should have probably asked MH to leave and coach with in interim coach to remove the distraction.

I don't wish MH bad or well.....he is just not the JMU coach anymore so I don't really care....it is not like we are 'real' friends so see ya.

Next man up and let's get this process completed quickly.

If Bourne had done that, guess what? You still have a huge distraction. That huge distraction wasn't going away no matter what, once the cat was out of the bag.

Maybe/Maybe not.....I know 100% the source of the distraction would not have been front and center. Sure there would he HC speculation but not what it was. And JMU could have publicly started their search. Trust me the players would have seen it as removing the #1 distraction and a HC who was no longer 'All-In' with them.

Personally I think it would of been a bigger distraction if Houston left days before a game. Who would be in charge? Bob or Donnie? It would certainly change things for the players.

I'd think the players understand that Houston could leave any year. I don't think they took it as personally as many of the fans. Their focus was on this year's playoffs. Mike was a great head coach. To all the sudden have a interim new coach would of been a major disruption for the team and remaining coaches.

While I wish we had won to play NDSU, I really would of liked to have won to see if Mike would of coached against NDSU.

Well not what I have heard from players and players parents.

Can you elaborate? Even in a DM if you'd like?

(12-05-2018 09:44 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 04:15 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 03:51 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 02:31 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 02:14 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  If Bourne had done that, guess what? You still have a huge distraction. That huge distraction wasn't going away no matter what, once the cat was out of the bag.

Maybe/Maybe not.....I know 100% the source of the distraction would not have been front and center. Sure there would he HC speculation but not what it was. And JMU could have publicly started their search. Trust me the players would have seen it as removing the #1 distraction and a HC who was no longer 'All-In' with them.

Personally I think it would of been a bigger distraction if Houston left days before a game. Who would be in charge? Bob or Donnie? It would certainly change things for the players.

I'd think the players understand that Houston could leave any year. I don't think they took it as personally as many of the fans. Their focus was on this year's playoffs. Mike was a great head coach. To all the sudden have a interim new coach would of been a major disruption for the team and remaining coaches.

While I wish we had won to play NDSU, I really would of liked to have won to see if Mike would of coached against NDSU.

Well not what I have heard from players and players parents.

Can you elaborate? Even in a DM if you'd like?

No he can't. In the other thread, his opinions were based on sitting very close to the defensive huddle on the sideline. Now it is direct from players/parents. Next opinion will be based on texts from Houston himself saying he purposely gave up so he could get out of the cold mountains and get to the beach.

(12-05-2018 09:49 AM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(12-05-2018 09:44 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 04:15 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 03:51 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 02:31 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  Maybe/Maybe not.....I know 100% the source of the distraction would not have been front and center. Sure there would he HC speculation but not what it was. And JMU could have publicly started their search. Trust me the players would have seen it as removing the #1 distraction and a HC who was no longer 'All-In' with them.

Personally I think it would of been a bigger distraction if Houston left days before a game. Who would be in charge? Bob or Donnie? It would certainly change things for the players.

I'd think the players understand that Houston could leave any year. I don't think they took it as personally as many of the fans. Their focus was on this year's playoffs. Mike was a great head coach. To all the sudden have a interim new coach would of been a major disruption for the team and remaining coaches.

While I wish we had won to play NDSU, I really would of liked to have won to see if Mike would of coached against NDSU.

Well not what I have heard from players and players parents.

Can you elaborate? Even in a DM if you'd like?

No he can't. In the other thread, his opinions were based on sitting very close to the defensive huddle on the sideline. Now it is direct from players/parents. Next opinion will be based on texts from Houston himself saying he purposely gave up so he could get out of the cold mountains and get to the beach.

I am not about to name names of parents and players.....but rest assured this was the case. Was that the case for every player probably NOT, but it was for some and shared by them.

DoubleDogDare -- sorry if you lost your man-crush on Coach Houston.

(12-05-2018 09:49 AM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(12-05-2018 09:44 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 04:15 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 03:51 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 02:31 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  Maybe/Maybe not.....I know 100% the source of the distraction would not have been front and center. Sure there would he HC speculation but not what it was. And JMU could have publicly started their search. Trust me the players would have seen it as removing the #1 distraction and a HC who was no longer 'All-In' with them.

Personally I think it would of been a bigger distraction if Houston left days before a game. Who would be in charge? Bob or Donnie? It would certainly change things for the players.

I'd think the players understand that Houston could leave any year. I don't think they took it as personally as many of the fans. Their focus was on this year's playoffs. Mike was a great head coach. To all the sudden have a interim new coach would of been a major disruption for the team and remaining coaches.

While I wish we had won to play NDSU, I really would of liked to have won to see if Mike would of coached against NDSU.

Well not what I have heard from players and players parents.

Can you elaborate? Even in a DM if you'd like?

No he can't. In the other thread, his opinions were based on sitting very close to the defensive huddle on the sideline. Now it is direct from players/parents. Next opinion will be based on texts from Houston himself saying he purposely gave up so he could get out of the cold mountains and get to the beach.

Actually he did in a DM - and his info corroborated multiple accounts I've gotten as well.

Shady's 100% right that Houston should not have coached that game and we should have named DK or BT interim coach.