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(11-25-2018 07:58 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Army lost to Oklahoma in overtime which actually looks solid. I tend to view OT games as ties to a certain extent. Win the bowl game get ranked.

So under your system UC only lost to UCF. Right?
 
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Army has more credibility in the eyes of the pollsters because they are a military academy, are Independent and because of their history. Despite being a member of this conference, Navy gets the same.
 
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(11-26-2018 09:56 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Army has more credibility in the eyes of the pollsters because they are a military academy, are Independent and because of their history. Despite being a member of this conference, Navy gets the same.

IMHO....Army is ranked to give Oklahoma's resume a boost to make the final 4.
 
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Same reason Northwestern is ranked (losses to Akron and Duke, 3 point win over Rutgers, 4 point win over Iowa, 8 point win over Illinois). Can't have an unranked team in the Big Ten championship game.
 
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(11-26-2018 03:07 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  Same reason Northwestern is ranked (losses to Akron and Duke, 3 point win over Rutgers, 4 point win over Iowa, 8 point win over Illinois). Can't have an unranked team in the Big Ten championship game.

Agreed.

Michigan gets torched for 62 points and loses by more than three touchdowns. Think if UCF (or any G5) had played and lost by that margin in Columbus they'd be ranked #8 today? Not only would they not be in the top ten, all the naysayers would come out suggesting they've been overrated all along. A no win proposition in this caste system.

The polls are beauty contests at best. Unfortunately, they do generate substantially more media exposure for the ranked schools, hence more attention from fans and recruits. It's too bad UC couldn't get back in there this week. Your post demonstrates why.
 
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(11-26-2018 03:46 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 03:07 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  Same reason Northwestern is ranked (losses to Akron and Duke, 3 point win over Rutgers, 4 point win over Iowa, 8 point win over Illinois). Can't have an unranked team in the Big Ten championship game.

Agreed.

Michigan gets torched for 62 points and loses by more than three touchdowns. Think if UCF (or any G5) had played and lost by that margin in Columbus they'd be ranked #8 today? Not only would they not be in the top ten, all the naysayers would come out suggesting they've been overrated all along. A no win proposition in this caste system.

The polls are beauty contests at best. Unfortunately, they do generate substantially more media exposure for the ranked schools, hence more attention from fans and recruits. It's too bad UC couldn't get back in there this week. Your post demonstrates why.

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(11-26-2018 02:19 PM)bearcat72 Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 09:56 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Army has more credibility in the eyes of the pollsters because they are a military academy, are Independent and because of their history. Despite being a member of this conference, Navy gets the same.

IMHO....Army is ranked to give Oklahoma's resume a boost to make the final 4.

I root for Army but I would love to play them in the Military Bowl and we would destroy them.
 
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(11-26-2018 06:11 PM)doss2 Wrote:  
(11-26-2018 02:19 PM)bearcat72 Wrote:  [quote='CliftonAve' pid='15704029' dateline='1543244173']
Army has more credibility in the eyes of the pollsters because they are a military academy, are Independent and because of their history. Despite being a member of this conference, Navy gets the same.

IMHO....Army is ranked to give Oklahoma's resume a boost to make the final 4.

I root for Army but I would love to play them in the Military Bowl and we would destroy them.
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Basically it’s a close loss to Oklahoma that’s keeping them ranked. They played an awful schedule. I would take UC’s wins over Ohio, USF, Tulane, SMU, and UCLA over everything they did.
 
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I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how the Fountain West is getting the rankings in lieu of others in the G5. So much for our self-proclaimed P6.....

AP
7. UCF
19. Boyzee St.
25. Fresno St.
26. Utah St.
29. Cincinnati
33. Appy St.
34. Buffalo

Coaches
7. UCF
20. Boyzee St.
23. Fresno St.
24. Utah St.
27. Cincinnati
31. Appy St.
33. Memphis
34. UAB
37. Buffalo
40. Georgia Southern

Playoff
9. UCF
21. Utah St. (Get The Eff Outta Here!)
23. Boyzee St.
 
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(11-26-2018 07:44 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how the Fountain West is getting the rankings in lieu of others in the G5. So much for our self-proclaimed P6.....

AP
7. UCF
19. Boyzee St.
25. Fresno St.
26. Utah St.
29. Cincinnati
33. Appy St.
34. Buffalo

Coaches
7. UCF
20. Boyzee St.
23. Fresno St.
24. Utah St.
27. Cincinnati
31. Appy St.
33. Memphis
34. UAB
37. Buffalo
40. Georgia Southern

Playoff
9. UCF
21. Utah St. (Get The Eff Outta Here!)
23. Boyzee St.

Must be Utah state's close loss to mediocre Michigan St. that's carrying them.
 
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