No Bowls Possible

College Sports Madness Possible

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/ncaa-...ojections/ Clueless. Yeah, Weber will be unseeded, JMU #6, and Towson #7. Not even remotely possible.


If we win Saturday I really think we are 7th seed at worst.

Maybe this is me dreaming, but I hope the selection committee allows for a 3rd straight NDSU/JMU NC game. I can't see us getting above 6 or below 7, although two bracket projections have us as #8 at NDSU.

I think UD coming to JMU looks very possible. Not my preference but my main preference is not being in the top half of the bracket with you know who.

(11-12-2018 05:08 PM)Dukester Wrote:  No Bowls Possible

College Sports Madness Possible

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/ncaa-...ojections/ Clueless. Yeah, Weber will be unseeded, JMU #6, and Towson #7. Not even remotely possible.


If we win Saturday I really think we are 7th seed at worst.

Maybe this is me dreaming, but I hope the selection committee allows for a 3rd straight NDSU/JMU NC game. I can't see us getting above 6 or below 7, although two bracket projections have us as #8 at NDSU.

I think UD coming to JMU looks very possible. Not my preference but my main preference is not being in the top half of the bracket with you know who.

JMU beat Youngstown State.

(11-12-2018 05:13 PM)JMU_Degenerate Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 05:08 PM)Dukester Wrote:  No Bowls Possible

College Sports Madness Possible

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/ncaa-...ojections/ Clueless. Yeah, Weber will be unseeded, JMU #6, and Towson #7. Not even remotely possible.


If we win Saturday I really think we are 7th seed at worst.

Maybe this is me dreaming, but I hope the selection committee allows for a 3rd straight NDSU/JMU NC game. I can't see us getting above 6 or below 7, although two bracket projections have us as #8 at NDSU.

I think UD coming to JMU looks very possible. Not my preference but my main preference is not being in the top half of the bracket with you know who.

JMU beat Youngstown State.

Oh yeah

Although for all intensive purposes.....

I have no clue what they are going to do with us. If we win out, I doubt we don’t get seeded. NDSU has lost games in their conference before and been rewarded for a tough schedule. Our wins against Sony Brook and URI are no joke and possibly better than other teams that may be seeded (*cough KSU). A win against Towson only makes our case stronger.
I think the thing working against us (aside from our two FCS losses) is the other CAA teams that may get seeded. I’m not sure they will seed more than 3.

I feel like the top portion of the NoBowls bracket is much harder than the bottom part.

FWIW, we are rated the 6th best FCS team (not including Ivys) by Massey and 4th best by Sagarin. I suppose with a strong JMU win and a couple of upsets above us, it's possible we could score a 3 seed. Not afraid of playing the Bison, but why go there if we don't have to, so no 4 or 5 seed is desireable. Really though, a 6 seed will be fine with me. It's pretty balanced this year after NDSU, so the higher seeds might lose anyway and we could still get additional home games.

(11-12-2018 05:15 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 05:13 PM)JMU_Degenerate Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 05:08 PM)Dukester Wrote:  No Bowls Possible

College Sports Madness Possible

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/ncaa-...ojections/ Clueless. Yeah, Weber will be unseeded, JMU #6, and Towson #7. Not even remotely possible.


If we win Saturday I really think we are 7th seed at worst.

Maybe this is me dreaming, but I hope the selection committee allows for a 3rd straight NDSU/JMU NC game. I can't see us getting above 6 or below 7, although two bracket projections have us as #8 at NDSU.

I think UD coming to JMU looks very possible. Not my preference but my main preference is not being in the top half of the bracket with you know who.

JMU beat Youngstown State.

Oh yeah

Although for all intensive purposes.....

Another Dukesterism! It is intents and purposes old boy.

(11-12-2018 06:19 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 05:15 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 05:13 PM)JMU_Degenerate Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 05:08 PM)Dukester Wrote:  No Bowls Possible

College Sports Madness Possible

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/ncaa-...ojections/ Clueless. Yeah, Weber will be unseeded, JMU #6, and Towson #7. Not even remotely possible.


If we win Saturday I really think we are 7th seed at worst.

Maybe this is me dreaming, but I hope the selection committee allows for a 3rd straight NDSU/JMU NC game. I can't see us getting above 6 or below 7, although two bracket projections have us as #8 at NDSU.

I think UD coming to JMU looks very possible. Not my preference but my main preference is not being in the top half of the bracket with you know who.

JMU beat Youngstown State.

Oh yeah

Although for all intensive purposes.....

Another Dukesterism! It is intents and purposes old boy.

Haha! That's exactly how I "Say" it. Probably never had to spell it out though.

Look at it this way....Here are the official rankings from 10/31 (2 weeks ago) and what each team has done since:

1.) NDSU - 2-0 - Won both games (Youngstown and Missouri State)
2.) JMU - 1-1 - Lost to UNH (improving) and beat URI (good team)
3.) UC Davis - 1-1 - Beat NAU (not strong), got crushed by EWU (strong)
4.) Weber State - 2-0 - Beat Sac State and SUU (both bottom-place teams)
5.) Elon - 1-1 - Beat URI (good team) and lost big to Towson (strong)
6.) Kennesaw State - 2-0 - Beat Campbell (bleh) and Monmouth (good)
7.) SDSU - 2-0 - Beat Missouri State and SIU (both weak)
8.) Wofford - 1-1 - Lost to Samford (average) and beat Western Carolina (weak)
9.) EWU - 2-0 - Crushed Northern Colorado (bleh) and UC Davis (very good win)
10.) Delaware - 1-1 - Beat Albany (barely over a weak team) and lost to Stony Brook (good team)

Five teams went 2-0, so they will move up. Five teams went 1-1. Delaware likely dropped off of list, to be replaced by Colgate (probably higher than #10).

(11-12-2018 06:19 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 05:15 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 05:13 PM)JMU_Degenerate Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 05:08 PM)Dukester Wrote:  No Bowls Possible

College Sports Madness Possible

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/ncaa-...ojections/ Clueless. Yeah, Weber will be unseeded, JMU #6, and Towson #7. Not even remotely possible.


If we win Saturday I really think we are 7th seed at worst.

Maybe this is me dreaming, but I hope the selection committee allows for a 3rd straight NDSU/JMU NC game. I can't see us getting above 6 or below 7, although two bracket projections have us as #8 at NDSU.

I think UD coming to JMU looks very possible. Not my preference but my main preference is not being in the top half of the bracket with you know who.

JMU beat Youngstown State.

Oh yeah

Although for all intensive purposes.....

Another Dukesterism! It is intents and purposes old boy.

I would of never known!

(11-12-2018 06:39 PM)NH/JMU Saxkow Wrote:  Look at it this way....Here are the official rankings from 10/31 (2 weeks ago) and what each team has done since:

1.) NDSU - 2-0 - Won both games (Youngstown and Missouri State)
2.) JMU - 1-1 - Lost to UNH (improving) and beat URI (good team)
3.) UC Davis - 1-1 - Beat NAU (not strong), got crushed by EWU (strong)
4.) Weber State - 2-0 - Beat Sac State and SUU (both bottom-place teams)
5.) Elon - 1-1 - Beat URI (good team) and lost big to Towson (strong)
6.) Kennesaw State - 2-0 - Beat Campbell (bleh) and Monmouth (good)
7.) SDSU - 2-0 - Beat Missouri State and SIU (both weak)
8.) Wofford - 1-1 - Lost to Samford (average) and beat Western Carolina (weak)
9.) EWU - 2-0 - Crushed Northern Colorado (bleh) and UC Davis (very good win)
10.) Delaware - 1-1 - Beat Albany (barely over a weak team) and lost to Stony Brook (good team)

Five teams went 2-0, so they will move up. Five teams went 1-1. Delaware likely dropped off of list, to be replaced by Colgate (probably higher than #10).

We likely need at least 2 or 3 of the teams that went 2-0 to lose this week to put us back in the discussion for a 3 seed. If Weber St and Kennesaw lose, that would help a lot.

Also, would think Maine and Towson are now in the hunt for a seed if they win this week. Maine could replace Elon in the top 10 list.

(11-12-2018 06:39 PM)NH/JMU Saxkow Wrote:  Look at it this way....Here are the official rankings from 10/31 (2 weeks ago) and what each team has done since:

1.) NDSU - 2-0 - Won both games (Youngstown and Missouri State)
2.) JMU - 1-1 - Lost to UNH (improving) and beat URI (good team)
3.) UC Davis - 1-1 - Beat NAU (not strong), got crushed by EWU (strong)
4.) Weber State - 2-0 - Beat Sac State and SUU (both bottom-place teams)
5.) Elon - 1-1 - Beat URI (good team) and lost big to Towson (strong)
6.) Kennesaw State - 2-0 - Beat Campbell (bleh) and Monmouth (good)
7.) SDSU - 2-0 - Beat Missouri State and SIU (both weak)
8.) Wofford - 1-1 - Lost to Samford (average) and beat Western Carolina (weak)
9.) EWU - 2-0 - Crushed Northern Colorado (bleh) and UC Davis (very good win)
10.) Delaware - 1-1 - Beat Albany (barely over a weak team) and lost to Stony Brook (good team)

Five teams went 2-0, so they will move up. Five teams went 1-1. Delaware likely dropped off of list, to be replaced by Colgate (probably higher than #10).

Based on that this is how I would see it currently:

1.) NDSU
2.) Weber State
3.) JMU
4.) Kennesaw State
5.) SDSU
6.) EWU
7.) UC Davis
8.) Colgate
9.) Maine
10) JSU or Elon

I could see them swapping EWU and SDSU for matchup purposes

(11-12-2018 10:46 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 06:39 PM)NH/JMU Saxkow Wrote:  Look at it this way....Here are the official rankings from 10/31 (2 weeks ago) and what each team has done since:

1.) NDSU - 2-0 - Won both games (Youngstown and Missouri State)
2.) JMU - 1-1 - Lost to UNH (improving) and beat URI (good team)
3.) UC Davis - 1-1 - Beat NAU (not strong), got crushed by EWU (strong)
4.) Weber State - 2-0 - Beat Sac State and SUU (both bottom-place teams)
5.) Elon - 1-1 - Beat URI (good team) and lost big to Towson (strong)
6.) Kennesaw State - 2-0 - Beat Campbell (bleh) and Monmouth (good)
7.) SDSU - 2-0 - Beat Missouri State and SIU (both weak)
8.) Wofford - 1-1 - Lost to Samford (average) and beat Western Carolina (weak)
9.) EWU - 2-0 - Crushed Northern Colorado (bleh) and UC Davis (very good win)
10.) Delaware - 1-1 - Beat Albany (barely over a weak team) and lost to Stony Brook (good team)

Five teams went 2-0, so they will move up. Five teams went 1-1. Delaware likely dropped off of list, to be replaced by Colgate (probably higher than #10).

Based on that this is how I would see it currently:

1.) NDSU
2.) Weber State
3.) JMU
4.) Kennesaw State
5.) SDSU
6.) EWU
7.) UC Davis
8.) Colgate
9.) Maine
10) JSU or Elon

I could see them swapping EWU and SDSU for matchup purposes

I don't see SDSU being any lower than a 3.

URI is an average team. They started hot and now are playing tougher competition.

Elon is not the same team we played.

I see the standings currently as:
1. NDSU
2. Weber St.
3. Kennesaw St.
4. SDSU
5. Eastern Washington
6. UC-Davis
7. JMU
8. Towson

Colgate will get the 8 seed after a loss by JMU or Towson this week. Maine should get it, but will not. Delaware, considering their previous ranking, is not out of the discussion yet either assuming they beat rival Villanova this week.

(11-13-2018 02:48 AM)Yesolitis Wrote:  URI is an average team. They started hot and now are playing tougher competition.

Elon is not the same team we played.

I see the standings currently as:
1. NDSU
2. Weber St.
3. Kennesaw St.
4. SDSU
5. Eastern Washington
6. UC-Davis
7. JMU
8. Towson

Colgate will get the 8 seed after a loss by JMU or Towson this week. Maine should get it, but will not. Delaware, considering their previous ranking, is not out of the discussion yet either assuming they beat rival Villanova this week.

They’re not going to seed 3 Big Sky Teams.

(11-13-2018 05:36 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(11-13-2018 02:48 AM)Yesolitis Wrote:  URI is an average team. They started hot and now are playing tougher competition.

Elon is not the same team we played.

I see the standings currently as:
1. NDSU
2. Weber St.
3. Kennesaw St.
4. SDSU
5. Eastern Washington
6. UC-Davis
7. JMU
8. Towson

Colgate will get the 8 seed after a loss by JMU or Towson this week. Maine should get it, but will not. Delaware, considering their previous ranking, is not out of the discussion yet either assuming they beat rival Villanova this week.

They’re not going to seed 3 Big Sky Teams.

UC Davis i think drops to 9-10. Put Colgate in for 8 unless they win at army then I can see them getting a top 5 seed. If Maine beats Elon this weekend I see them as a 6/7 with the winner of the JMU Towson game

FWIW, Colgate is an 11 pt underdog at Army this upcoming Saturday.

Colgate (9-0) has given up a total of 29 points over their 9 games. And, 17 of those were in their opener. Army is 8-2 and getting enough votes in the polls that they are just outside looking in (26th in the AP Poll, just 5 points behind #25 Mississippi State, who is 6-4 on the season).

Colgate beats Army, I can see them being #2-3. I see SDSU will be a #2-3 or they will be #6 as the committee will want them to avoid NDSU (dumb), same with us. SDSU is 7-2 vs. FCS competition like a lot of other 7-3 teams, in reality with how bad the MVFC is this year they should be below JMU, SB, Towson..

But as of right now.. I see it as.. 1. NDSU 2. Weber 3. SDSU 4. EWU 5. KSU 6. JMU 7. UCD 8. Colgate

(11-12-2018 08:03 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 06:19 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 05:15 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 05:13 PM)JMU_Degenerate Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 05:08 PM)Dukester Wrote:  No Bowls Possible

College Sports Madness Possible

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/ncaa-...ojections/ Clueless. Yeah, Weber will be unseeded, JMU #6, and Towson #7. Not even remotely possible.


If we win Saturday I really think we are 7th seed at worst.

Maybe this is me dreaming, but I hope the selection committee allows for a 3rd straight NDSU/JMU NC game. I can't see us getting above 6 or below 7, although two bracket projections have us as #8 at NDSU.

I think UD coming to JMU looks very possible. Not my preference but my main preference is not being in the top half of the bracket with you know who.

JMU beat Youngstown State.

Oh yeah

Although for all intensive purposes.....

Another Dukesterism! It is intents and purposes old boy.

I would of never known!

ICWYDT

(11-13-2018 08:46 AM)South Main Wrote:  Colgate beats Army, I can see them being #2-3. I see SDSU will be a #2-3 or they will be #6 as the committee will want them to avoid NDSU (dumb), same with us. SDSU is 7-2 vs. FCS competition like a lot of other 7-3 teams, in reality with how bad the MVFC is this year they should be below JMU, SB, Towson..

But as of right now.. I see it as.. 1. NDSU 2. Weber 3. SDSU 4. EWU 5. KSU 6. JMU 7. UCD 8. Colgate

how bad the MVFC is this year? are you possibly letting the eye test and the W/L records cloud your vision in this regard?

Teams in Sagarin Predictor top 25:
MVFC 1
CAA 0

top 100:
MVFC 4
CAA 1

top 150:
MVFC 9
CAA 7

top 164:
the entire MVFC
CAA 9 of 12

MVFC / CAA combined:
NDSU 24
SDSU 57
JMU 79
Illinois State 89
Northern Iowa 93
Stony Brook 115
Western Illinois 121
Towson 122
Delaware 123
Youngstown State 131
Elon 137
South Dakota 138
Maine 143
New Hampshire 144
Indiana State 145
Southern Illinois 149
Villanova 156
Rhode Island 161
Missouri State 164
Richmond 185
W&M 193
Albany 199

MVFC is the best FCS conference and is rated higher than the CUSA and Sunbelt too. This statement is fact and it really isnt even that close. Just because teams 3 through 10 in the MVFC all beat each other round robin style resulting in a bunch of .500 records does not change that all those .500 teams are greater than or equal to the entire CAA outside of JMU. CAA is simply the #2 FCS conference once again this year. There is actually a decent gap between the MVFC and the CAA. What's alarming is that the CAA is barely above the Big Sky and Southern. I am basing this on Sagarin Predictors, but Massey's numbers tell the exact same story (actually Massey is more down on the CAA than Sagarin is so I chose to present my case using the least supportive data set of the two).

You could successfully argue that the committee won't agree with the metrics and will leave out a lot of the MVFC (and the committee probably should leave them out because the rule book says for them to consider W/L records, SOS, and availability of players as their three main criteria so a bunch of .500 teams is an unfortunate result for the MVFC).

It is highly unlikely that a full season of statistical data has resulted in two different highly reputable analysts coming to the same conclusion... that the MVFC is the best of the FCS and the CAA is #2.

(11-13-2018 08:46 AM)South Main Wrote:  Colgate beats Army, I can see them being #2-3. I see SDSU will be a #2-3 or they will be #6 as the committee will want them to avoid NDSU (dumb), same with us. SDSU is 7-2 vs. FCS competition like a lot of other 7-3 teams, in reality with how bad the MVFC is this year they should be below JMU, SB, Towson..

But as of right now.. I see it as.. 1. NDSU 2. Weber 3. SDSU 4. EWU 5. KSU 6. JMU 7. UCD 8. Colgate

Yep - this is what I anticipate as well.

I think we are 6 or 7

I think SDSU and Weber are 2 or 3 meaning we play at one of the teams we hosted last year in the playoffs.

I think we open up against the winner of the UD playin game. The thing about UD is I think we may be a bigger rival with the coach than the school. He beat us on game day, I think he's capable of doing so in the playoffs as well.