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(11-12-2018 01:17 PM)bearcatseminole Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 01:06 PM)MrCincy Wrote:  Mick Cronin is one of the best College basketball coaches in America. He will do just fine. Compare his W/L record to any other present coach in America. Why do you think UNLV wanted him? He will have some off years and he will have many fantastic years. He doesn't cheat and his players graduate. UC will do just fine this year, just sit back and watch.

Agreed! Well..that...and as long as we beat X.

Wha??? We don't play to beat a single team...a single game. That sort of thing is for the fans.

Haven't you been keeping up here? Sheesh.

(11-12-2018 03:59 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 03:26 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  This is just me, but I still don't get the "tournament wins" fairy tale prevalent around here.

Remind me again what sweet 16's and elite 8's get you... besides being happy a little longer in March?

There's one winner and 63 losers in the tournament.

Shouldn't Loyola of Chicago be killing it right now on the strength of LAST SEASON'S final four run? Instead, where are they? Back to losing to Furman is where they are.

Where's George Mason? Where's VCU's national prestige?

Did Wisconsin even make the tournament last year? I... don't think that they were in it. They were a finalist a few years ago. That means they should be in it because all the top recruits will want to go there because they win in March, right?

Wrong. If you don't win 6 in march, you don't win crap.

Do you try to be this stupid? Do you study? Or do you just periodically drop heavy objects on your head deliberately?

One deep tourney run doesn't mean a thing--sustained post-season success is the hallmark of a great program. If you tally post-season win totals against all-time greatest programs, you will find that the top 10 programs in the country have the top 10 post-season winning percentages and put the most kids in the NBA because they get the most lottery picks...because the program has cred.

Regular season success is like getting to the starting gate--you have to compete in the race to win it, and the faster you run the more likely you will finish among the medalists.

Please quit with the moronic assertion that regular season success is the be-all of MBB...if it were, teams like Valapariso would routinely have lottery picks.

It takes a sustained effort to be this far off-base.

Michigan has finished runner up six times. They NEVER get mentioned as one of the basketball blue bloods. Why is that, genius?

Indiana ALWAYS get mentioned among basketball blue bloods, but they haven't done jack sh*t for 30 years. Now why is that??? Hmmmm? I'll tell you. They have five championships.

Yeah, that's right. That's what I thought you would say.

... Now shut up and go back to scratching at your walls.

(11-12-2018 07:26 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 03:59 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 03:26 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  This is just me, but I still don't get the "tournament wins" fairy tale prevalent around here.

Remind me again what sweet 16's and elite 8's get you... besides being happy a little longer in March?

There's one winner and 63 losers in the tournament.

Shouldn't Loyola of Chicago be killing it right now on the strength of LAST SEASON'S final four run? Instead, where are they? Back to losing to Furman is where they are.

Where's George Mason? Where's VCU's national prestige?

Did Wisconsin even make the tournament last year? I... don't think that they were in it. They were a finalist a few years ago. That means they should be in it because all the top recruits will want to go there because they win in March, right?

Wrong. If you don't win 6 in march, you don't win crap.

Do you try to be this stupid? Do you study? Or do you just periodically drop heavy objects on your head deliberately?

One deep tourney run doesn't mean a thing--sustained post-season success is the hallmark of a great program. If you tally post-season win totals against all-time greatest programs, you will find that the top 10 programs in the country have the top 10 post-season winning percentages and put the most kids in the NBA because they get the most lottery picks...because the program has cred.

Regular season success is like getting to the starting gate--you have to compete in the race to win it, and the faster you run the more likely you will finish among the medalists.

Please quit with the moronic assertion that regular season success is the be-all of MBB...if it were, teams like Valapariso would routinely have lottery picks.

It takes a sustained effort to be this far off-base.

Michigan has finished runner up six times. They NEVER get mentioned as one of the basketball blue bloods. Why is that, genius?

Indiana ALWAYS get mentioned among basketball blue bloods, but they haven't done jack sh*t for 30 years. Now why is that??? Hmmmm? I'll tell you. They have five championships.

Yeah, that's right. That's what I thought you would say.

... Now shut up and go back to scratching at your walls.

Your logic is incorrect, thinking winning the whole thing is all people notice. Deep tourney runs matter, and people notice.

(11-12-2018 07:41 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 07:26 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 03:59 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 03:26 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  This is just me, but I still don't get the "tournament wins" fairy tale prevalent around here.

Remind me again what sweet 16's and elite 8's get you... besides being happy a little longer in March?

There's one winner and 63 losers in the tournament.

Shouldn't Loyola of Chicago be killing it right now on the strength of LAST SEASON'S final four run? Instead, where are they? Back to losing to Furman is where they are.

Where's George Mason? Where's VCU's national prestige?

Did Wisconsin even make the tournament last year? I... don't think that they were in it. They were a finalist a few years ago. That means they should be in it because all the top recruits will want to go there because they win in March, right?

Wrong. If you don't win 6 in march, you don't win crap.

Do you try to be this stupid? Do you study? Or do you just periodically drop heavy objects on your head deliberately?

One deep tourney run doesn't mean a thing--sustained post-season success is the hallmark of a great program. If you tally post-season win totals against all-time greatest programs, you will find that the top 10 programs in the country have the top 10 post-season winning percentages and put the most kids in the NBA because they get the most lottery picks...because the program has cred.

Regular season success is like getting to the starting gate--you have to compete in the race to win it, and the faster you run the more likely you will finish among the medalists.

Please quit with the moronic assertion that regular season success is the be-all of MBB...if it were, teams like Valapariso would routinely have lottery picks.

It takes a sustained effort to be this far off-base.

Michigan has finished runner up six times. They NEVER get mentioned as one of the basketball blue bloods. Why is that, genius?

Indiana ALWAYS get mentioned among basketball blue bloods, but they haven't done jack sh*t for 30 years. Now why is that??? Hmmmm? I'll tell you. They have five championships.

Yeah, that's right. That's what I thought you would say.

... Now shut up and go back to scratching at your walls.

Your logic is incorrect, thinking winning the whole thing is all people notice. Deep tourney runs matter, and people notice.

yup

Exhibit A: Xavier

(11-12-2018 03:50 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 01:06 PM)MrCincy Wrote:  Mick Cronin is one of the best College basketball coaches in America. He will do just fine. Compare his W/L record to any other present coach in America. Why do you think UNLV wanted him? He will have some off years and he will have many fantastic years. He doesn't cheat and his players graduate. UC will do just fine this year, just sit back and watch.

Define "fine".

He will cash obscenely large paychecks on the back of long suffering UC basketball fans.

(11-12-2018 07:26 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 03:59 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 03:26 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  This is just me, but I still don't get the "tournament wins" fairy tale prevalent around here.

Remind me again what sweet 16's and elite 8's get you... besides being happy a little longer in March?

There's one winner and 63 losers in the tournament.

Shouldn't Loyola of Chicago be killing it right now on the strength of LAST SEASON'S final four run? Instead, where are they? Back to losing to Furman is where they are.

Where's George Mason? Where's VCU's national prestige?

Did Wisconsin even make the tournament last year? I... don't think that they were in it. They were a finalist a few years ago. That means they should be in it because all the top recruits will want to go there because they win in March, right?

Wrong. If you don't win 6 in march, you don't win crap.

Do you try to be this stupid? Do you study? Or do you just periodically drop heavy objects on your head deliberately?

One deep tourney run doesn't mean a thing--sustained post-season success is the hallmark of a great program. If you tally post-season win totals against all-time greatest programs, you will find that the top 10 programs in the country have the top 10 post-season winning percentages and put the most kids in the NBA because they get the most lottery picks...because the program has cred.

Regular season success is like getting to the starting gate--you have to compete in the race to win it, and the faster you run the more likely you will finish among the medalists.

Please quit with the moronic assertion that regular season success is the be-all of MBB...if it were, teams like Valapariso would routinely have lottery picks.

It takes a sustained effort to be this far off-base.

Michigan has finished runner up six times. They NEVER get mentioned as one of the basketball blue bloods. Why is that, genius?

Indiana ALWAYS get mentioned among basketball blue bloods, but they haven't done jack sh*t for 30 years. Now why is that??? Hmmmm? I'll tell you. They have five championships.

Yeah, that's right. That's what I thought you would say.

... Now shut up and go back to scratching at your walls.

Michigan at #20:

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-dom...versity-20

Michigan at #14:

https://collegebasketball.ap.org/top-100

Michigan at #13:

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/03...fullscreen

Michigan at #15:

https://www.thetoptens.com/greatest-coll...-programs/

You are an idiot.

End of story.

(11-12-2018 11:42 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 07:26 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 03:59 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 03:26 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  This is just me, but I still don't get the "tournament wins" fairy tale prevalent around here.

Remind me again what sweet 16's and elite 8's get you... besides being happy a little longer in March?

There's one winner and 63 losers in the tournament.

Shouldn't Loyola of Chicago be killing it right now on the strength of LAST SEASON'S final four run? Instead, where are they? Back to losing to Furman is where they are.

Where's George Mason? Where's VCU's national prestige?

Did Wisconsin even make the tournament last year? I... don't think that they were in it. They were a finalist a few years ago. That means they should be in it because all the top recruits will want to go there because they win in March, right?

Wrong. If you don't win 6 in march, you don't win crap.

Do you try to be this stupid? Do you study? Or do you just periodically drop heavy objects on your head deliberately?

One deep tourney run doesn't mean a thing--sustained post-season success is the hallmark of a great program. If you tally post-season win totals against all-time greatest programs, you will find that the top 10 programs in the country have the top 10 post-season winning percentages and put the most kids in the NBA because they get the most lottery picks...because the program has cred.

Regular season success is like getting to the starting gate--you have to compete in the race to win it, and the faster you run the more likely you will finish among the medalists.

Please quit with the moronic assertion that regular season success is the be-all of MBB...if it were, teams like Valapariso would routinely have lottery picks.

It takes a sustained effort to be this far off-base.

Michigan has finished runner up six times. They NEVER get mentioned as one of the basketball blue bloods. Why is that, genius?

Indiana ALWAYS get mentioned among basketball blue bloods, but they haven't done jack sh*t for 30 years. Now why is that??? Hmmmm? I'll tell you. They have five championships.

Yeah, that's right. That's what I thought you would say.

... Now shut up and go back to scratching at your walls.

Michigan at #20:

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-dom...versity-20

Michigan at #14:

https://collegebasketball.ap.org/top-100

Michigan at #13:

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/03...fullscreen

Michigan at #15:

https://www.thetoptens.com/greatest-coll...-programs/

You are an idiot.

End of story.

Michigan not a blue blood?

Michigan isn't a blueblood in hoops.

I said in another thread, Penny is proving the AAC is not an excuse for recruiting woes. Add in our new arena and this is another excuse Mick won't be able to use moving forward.

Mick isn't a good recruiter and/or he recruits the 'wrong' type of player. For what ever reason his mind is made up that he can only get under the radar projects and/or defensive/tough type players. That's all well and good and you need SOME players of this caliber but when you stock an entire team of them, you don't need to look baffled in March when you don't make it out of the first round....which we don't.

Mick's downfall is his stubborness and refusal to adapt/change. When he got here and we were in shambles AND going into the Big East, his system worked. He needed a team full of players like this because he could a: recruit them b: the style kept him in games vs teams with much better talent. So for a while his 'system' worked for the time we were in. But we are now in a position that we are back on our feet, we are in a conference we should dominate and he should be going after a different type of player but he refuses. Either that or he just isn't a good salesman and can't get these kids on his ability to recruit. I happen to think he's just stubborn.


Either way, we are at our ceiling with Mick. Love it or hate it, we are at our ceiling.

(11-13-2018 08:19 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I said in another thread, Penny is proving the AAC is not an excuse for recruiting woes. Add in our new arena and this is another excuse Mick won't be able to use moving forward.

Mick isn't a good recruiter and/or he recruits the 'wrong' type of player. For what ever reason his mind is made up that he can only get under the radar projects and/or defensive/tough type players. That's all well and good and you need SOME players of this caliber but when you stock an entire team of them, you don't need to look baffled in March when you don't make it out of the first round....which we don't.

Mick's downfall is his stubborness and refusal to adapt/change. When he got here and we were in shambles AND going into the Big East, his system worked. He needed a team full of players like this because he could a: recruit them b: the style kept him in games vs teams with much better talent. So for a while his 'system' worked for the time we were in. But we are now in a position that we are back on our feet, we are in a conference we should dominate and he should be going after a different type of player but he refuses. Either that or he just isn't a good salesman and can't get these kids on his ability to recruit. I happen to think he's just stubborn.


Either way, we are at our ceiling with Mick. Love it or hate it, we are at our ceiling.

More like peaked and headed down.

(11-12-2018 11:42 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 07:26 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 03:59 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 03:26 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  This is just me, but I still don't get the "tournament wins" fairy tale prevalent around here.

Remind me again what sweet 16's and elite 8's get you... besides being happy a little longer in March?

There's one winner and 63 losers in the tournament.

Shouldn't Loyola of Chicago be killing it right now on the strength of LAST SEASON'S final four run? Instead, where are they? Back to losing to Furman is where they are.

Where's George Mason? Where's VCU's national prestige?

Did Wisconsin even make the tournament last year? I... don't think that they were in it. They were a finalist a few years ago. That means they should be in it because all the top recruits will want to go there because they win in March, right?

Wrong. If you don't win 6 in march, you don't win crap.

Do you try to be this stupid? Do you study? Or do you just periodically drop heavy objects on your head deliberately?

One deep tourney run doesn't mean a thing--sustained post-season success is the hallmark of a great program. If you tally post-season win totals against all-time greatest programs, you will find that the top 10 programs in the country have the top 10 post-season winning percentages and put the most kids in the NBA because they get the most lottery picks...because the program has cred.

Regular season success is like getting to the starting gate--you have to compete in the race to win it, and the faster you run the more likely you will finish among the medalists.

Please quit with the moronic assertion that regular season success is the be-all of MBB...if it were, teams like Valapariso would routinely have lottery picks.

It takes a sustained effort to be this far off-base.

Michigan has finished runner up six times. They NEVER get mentioned as one of the basketball blue bloods. Why is that, genius?

Indiana ALWAYS get mentioned among basketball blue bloods, but they haven't done jack sh*t for 30 years. Now why is that??? Hmmmm? I'll tell you. They have five championships.

Yeah, that's right. That's what I thought you would say.

... Now shut up and go back to scratching at your walls.

Michigan at #20:

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-dom...versity-20

Michigan at #14:

https://collegebasketball.ap.org/top-100

Michigan at #13:

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/03...fullscreen

Michigan at #15:

https://www.thetoptens.com/greatest-coll...-programs/

You are an idiot.

End of story.

You know, there's quite a few names I've thought about calling you...

but you do such a fine job of doing it for me.