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RE: A Realignment Proposal for the ACC
(01-05-2019 11:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Just swap VT and Syracuse with the current divisions and call it a day. It's the perfect zipper at that point.

Each division has a team in Florida.
Each division has a team in SC/GA.
Each division has two teams in NC.
Each division has a team in VA
Each division has a "midwest" team (Pitt & Louisville)
Each division has a team in the NE.

VT gets UVA as their protected rival, Syracuse gets BC & Louisville and Pitt can renew their Big East rivalry.

Works for me.04-cheers
01-06-2019 09:03 PM
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RE: A Realignment Proposal for the ACC
(01-04-2019 05:42 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  
(11-11-2018 06:21 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  
(11-11-2018 06:16 PM)CvilleDukes Wrote:  The Coastal becomes the Big East minus Virginia. As a UVA fan this would be the worst realignment. I think the ACC needs to get rid of divisions or start playing cross division teams more often. It’s ridiculous to only play a cross division team in your conference at home once in six years. Might as well be in a different conference at that point.

You got it. Finally a voice of reason.
Divisions should be Big East + FSU vs ACC from 1990.

But all conferences should:
1) get rid of divisions
2) play 9 conference games (5 permanent opps), this way everyone plays each other in 2 year span
3) conf champ game is #1 vs #2 in conference

the current CCG rules do not allow for this

you can only match the two best teams in the CCG if you play a full CONFERENCE round robin

if you do not play a full conference round robin then the only way you can have a CCG is to play in divisions and play a DIVISIONAL round robin and then you must match the winners of those divisions in the CCG

the Big 10 specifically made those rules changes so that the ACC would not be able to play in three divisions of five and then match the two best teams in the conference in the CCG.......after the Big 10 pushed that rules change the ACC was so upset they voted against any changes to the CCG format even though the ACC was the one that actually first proposed it even before the Big 12

most people on this forum actually thought the Big 10 was doing that to screw the Big 12, but the reality is the Big 12 is the only conference that can currently do either of those options

laughably the Big 10 now wishes they could match the two best teams in the conference, but they are too stupid to actually remember the rules they proposed and passed

I know the rule, just figured it would be changed. It was shortsighted thinking by B10 as usually happens in sports. I know they didn't want the ACC to create cupcake schedules for Clemson and FSU but they could have legislated against that. These guys are all lawyers but seem to be unable to grasp any ability to write up contracts and negotiate parameters.
01-07-2019 12:20 PM
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RE: A Realignment Proposal for the ACC
(01-05-2019 11:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Just swap VT and Syracuse with the current divisions and call it a day. It's the perfect zipper at that point.

Each division has a team in Florida.
Each division has a team in SC/GA.
Each division has two teams in NC.
Each division has a team in VA
Each division has a "midwest" team (Pitt & Louisville)
Each division has a team in the NE.

VT gets UVA as their protected rival, Syracuse gets BC & Louisville and Pitt can renew their Big East rivalry.

I think it shifts the balance of power even more to the Atlantic division, so I don't think it would fly once you start needing buy-in from the respective schools. As a VT fan though, it'd be better for our home schedules if you can alternate the Clemson & FSU games in respective years.

Our home schedule next year is really rough - Furman, ODU, likely another FCS team (since we dropped ECU), WF, Duke, UNC, Pitt. Yikes!

Another thing to think about - not sure losing the annual VT/Miami game would be worth the tradeoff. Despite both programs in current down cycles, it's still an important game for the league's inventory. I guess annual VT/Clemson and VT/FSU games could be considered an upgrade overall for the league inventory, but again, that division becomes even more of a meatgrinder if the Hokies can right the ship.

I think the league office likes the current setup, they're just hoping that VT & Miami can get things back together. Combinations of VT/Miami vs. Clemson/FSU in the ACC Championship are the league office's dream scenarios... it just hasn't happened that often (only 5 of the 14 years since '05 expansion).
01-07-2019 12:21 PM
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RE: A Realignment Proposal for the ACC
(01-05-2019 12:45 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Nerdlinger's alignment is truly the best alignment for the current set up. Ideally the ACC would add Notre Dame and WVU as full members in the Big East Legacy Division and UVA could move over with the ACC founders.

Protected crossovers:
UVA/VT
FSU/Miami

Problem with that is having 2 fixed 8-team divisions with an 8-game schedule means any team with a protected crossover can't play any other teams in the opposite division in conference play.
01-07-2019 07:04 PM
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RE: A Realignment Proposal for the ACC
(01-05-2019 11:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Just swap VT and Syracuse with the current divisions and call it a day. It's the perfect zipper at that point.

Each division has a team in Florida.
Each division has a team in SC/GA.
Each division has two teams in NC.
Each division has a team in VA
Each division has a "midwest" team (Pitt & Louisville)
Each division has a team in the NE.

VT gets UVA as their protected rival, Syracuse gets BC & Louisville and Pitt can renew their Big East rivalry.

Good logic.

New games:

VaTech vs. Clemson, FSU, Louisville, NC State
Syracuse vs. Miami

Games lost:

VaTech vs. Miami, Pitt

The possibility of a UVa-VaTech and Syracuse-BC rematch exists. I don’t think there is a way around that unless Pitt switches with either BC or Syracuse.
01-07-2019 09:59 PM
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