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RE: A Realignment Proposal for the ACC
(07-05-2019 11:45 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(07-04-2019 04:01 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(07-04-2019 03:51 PM)ColKurtz Wrote:  A solution in search of a problem.

So the ACC's existing divisions and schedule structure are ideal in your opinion? For all the schools?

They’re close. Virginia Tech is an old SoCon team with much more in common with the ACC than the Big East. Any talk of them placed in a “Big East” Division is nonsense. Why don’t you do an alternate history of realignment where VaTech and WVU were admitted to the ACC at its inception, like the mean ol’ Tar Heels pushed for?

IMO, the only better outcome from having divisions is a true zipper which maximizes TV games and rivalries. So some sort of swap between VaTech/Pitt and BC/Syracuse.

My out of the box solution which basically copies off the Big Ten’s one permanent rival:

UVa
VaTech
UNC
Duke
NC State
Wake
GaTech————Clemson
————————FSU
————————Miami
————————BC
————————Syracuse
————————Pitt
————————Louisville

Clemson gains Pitt and Miami, but loses NC State and Wake yearly.

FSU gains Pitt, but loses NC State and Wake yearly. They now cycle through the opposite division teams more, except for GaTech, which I believe would stay the same.

I like the out of the box thinking. However, even discounting the breakup of low-key historic rivalries like Clemson/NCSU, there are still the issues of competitive balance and distribution of the Florida teams. You have both Florida teams in one division, which also includes Clemson. The only heavy hitter in the other division is VT.
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RE: A Realignment Proposal for the ACC
(07-05-2019 12:19 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(07-05-2019 11:45 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(07-04-2019 04:01 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(07-04-2019 03:51 PM)ColKurtz Wrote:  A solution in search of a problem.

So the ACC's existing divisions and schedule structure are ideal in your opinion? For all the schools?

They’re close. Virginia Tech is an old SoCon team with much more in common with the ACC than the Big East. Any talk of them placed in a “Big East” Division is nonsense. Why don’t you do an alternate history of realignment where VaTech and WVU were admitted to the ACC at its inception, like the mean ol’ Tar Heels pushed for?

IMO, the only better outcome from having divisions is a true zipper which maximizes TV games and rivalries. So some sort of swap between VaTech/Pitt and BC/Syracuse.

My out of the box solution which basically copies off the Big Ten’s one permanent rival:

UVa
VaTech
UNC
Duke
NC State
Wake
GaTech————Clemson
————————FSU
————————Miami
————————BC
————————Syracuse
————————Pitt
————————Louisville

Clemson gains Pitt and Miami, but loses NC State and Wake yearly.

FSU gains Pitt, but loses NC State and Wake yearly. They now cycle through the opposite division teams more, except for GaTech, which I believe would stay the same.

I like the out of the box thinking. However, even discounting the breakup of low-key historic rivalries like Clemson/NCSU, there are still the issues of competitive balance and distribution of the Florida teams. You have both Florida teams in one division, which also includes Clemson. The only heavy hitter in the other division is VT.

I count one national championship winning coach in each division.

The SEC has imbalanced FLA teams. Ohio State still recruits FLA. What’s the issue with FLA teams except you play them both more often?
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RE: A Realignment Proposal for the ACC
(07-05-2019 01:22 PM)esayem Wrote:  
(07-05-2019 12:19 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(07-05-2019 11:45 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(07-04-2019 04:01 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(07-04-2019 03:51 PM)ColKurtz Wrote:  A solution in search of a problem.

So the ACC's existing divisions and schedule structure are ideal in your opinion? For all the schools?

They’re close. Virginia Tech is an old SoCon team with much more in common with the ACC than the Big East. Any talk of them placed in a “Big East” Division is nonsense. Why don’t you do an alternate history of realignment where VaTech and WVU were admitted to the ACC at its inception, like the mean ol’ Tar Heels pushed for?

IMO, the only better outcome from having divisions is a true zipper which maximizes TV games and rivalries. So some sort of swap between VaTech/Pitt and BC/Syracuse.

My out of the box solution which basically copies off the Big Ten’s one permanent rival:

UVa
VaTech
UNC
Duke
NC State
Wake
GaTech————Clemson
————————FSU
————————Miami
————————BC
————————Syracuse
————————Pitt
————————Louisville

Clemson gains Pitt and Miami, but loses NC State and Wake yearly.

FSU gains Pitt, but loses NC State and Wake yearly. They now cycle through the opposite division teams more, except for GaTech, which I believe would stay the same.

I like the out of the box thinking. However, even discounting the breakup of low-key historic rivalries like Clemson/NCSU, there are still the issues of competitive balance and distribution of the Florida teams. You have both Florida teams in one division, which also includes Clemson. The only heavy hitter in the other division is VT.

I count one national championship winning coach in each division.

The SEC has imbalanced FLA teams. Ohio State still recruits FLA. What’s the issue with FLA teams except you play them both more often?

The SEC has only one Florida team, so it has to be unbalanced, of course. 03-wink

I think the non-Florida ACC schools all want regular access to Florida for recruiting purposes, and that's most easily achieved by having FSU and Miami in separate divisions.
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I’m fine with what is basically in north/south split or Big East/pre-1990 ACC split if that’s what everyone wants to do. I can definitely live with that. However, I would then also want the conference championship game and the men’s basketball tournament to be played about midway — say Washington, DC. That seems only fair, right?

That way, everyone gets what they want. The North Carolina schools get to stay close together and play each either – which is great. Also, we don’t have to play the tournament in sleepy Greensboro or the football championship game in Charlotte.

And for the record, I actually like Charlotte. It just seems a little too far south if we’re going to go with more of a north/south split.
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How about the donut alignment theory. I’ve always liked that one.

TOBACCO ROAD DIVISION
Clemson
North Carolina
NC State
Duke
Wake Forest
Virginia
Virginia Tech

METROPOLITAN DIVISION
Boston College
Syracuse
Miami
Louisville
Pitt
Georgia Tech
Florida State

You could also substitute Virginia Tech and Florida State if you’d like.
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(07-05-2019 11:45 AM)esayem Wrote:  Why don’t you do an alternate history of realignment where VaTech and WVU were admitted to the ACC at its inception, like the mean ol’ Tar Heels pushed for?

To this point, we did discuss such a scenario in the alternate history thread, starting here: https://csnbbs.com/thread-821510-post-16...id16047679

If UNC wanted that to happen, why didn't it? Genuinely curious.
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RE: A Realignment Proposal for the ACC
(07-05-2019 03:02 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  How about the donut alignment theory. I’ve always liked that one.

TOBACCO ROAD DIVISION
Clemson
North Carolina
NC State
Duke
Wake Forest
Virginia
Virginia Tech

METROPOLITAN DIVISION
Boston College
Syracuse
Miami
Louisville
Pitt
Georgia Tech
Florida State

You could also substitute Virginia Tech and Florida State if you’d like.

Sounds like my idea of hell. 04-cheers
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(07-05-2019 03:02 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  How about the donut alignment theory. I’ve always liked that one.

TOBACCO ROAD DIVISION
Clemson
North Carolina
NC State
Duke
Wake Forest
Virginia
Virginia Tech

METROPOLITAN DIVISION
Boston College
Syracuse
Miami
Louisville
Pitt
Georgia Tech
Florida State

You could also substitute Virginia Tech and Florida State if you’d like.

While decently balanced, there's still the Florida problem. Additionally, Clemson, FSU, and GT would all likely be unhappy with that alignment. I don't think an alignment would fly that doesn't satisfy the first two in particular.
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RE: A Realignment Proposal for the ACC
Operating within current CCG rules, you can also do a pod system (3 permanent + 5/10 others), as long as permanent rivals are kept within pods of 4, 6, or 8. I think a 6+8 system fits the ACC best.

A pod system opens up the possibility that some years will feature unbalanced divisions, but ADs likely value the balanced schedule more than competitive balance and even a "weak" division in a 14-team ACC should still feature a champ with a 6-2 conference record.

//////////

Here is the 6 team pod
Atl/Coa
VT/UVA
Wake/Duke
NCSt/UNC

Here is the 8 team pod (this could be parsed any number of ways with essentially the same result)
B: FSU+Lou & BC+Syr
D: Mia+Pitt & Clem+GT
A team's 3 permanent riavls are their paired team and 1 team from each pair in the opposite B/D list. For example, FSU: Lou+Mia+Clem and Syr: BC+Pitt+Clem. Each pair in the B and in the D list are assigned to opposite divisions each year with B-pairs switching divisions every even year and D-pairs switching every odd year.

Nerdlinger, can your list of rivals in a divisionless setup be contained in sets of 6 and 8? Not all 14 teams are listed in your reposts.
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(07-05-2019 11:32 PM)Crayton Wrote:  Operating within current CCG rules, you can also do a pod system (3 permanent + 5/10 others), as long as permanent rivals are kept within pods of 4, 6, or 8. I think a 6+8 system fits the ACC best.

A pod system opens up the possibility that some years will feature unbalanced divisions, but ADs likely value the balanced schedule more than competitive balance and even a "weak" division in a 14-team ACC should still feature a champ with a 6-2 conference record.

//////////

Here is the 6 team pod
Atl/Coa
VT/UVA
Wake/Duke
NCSt/UNC

Here is the 8 team pod (this could be parsed any number of ways with essentially the same result)
B: FSU+Lou & BC+Syr
D: Mia+Pitt & Clem+GT
A team's 3 permanent riavls are their paired team and 1 team from each pair in the opposite B/D list. For example, FSU: Lou+Mia+Clem and Syr: BC+Pitt+Clem. Each pair in the B and in the D list are assigned to opposite divisions each year with B-pairs switching divisions every even year and D-pairs switching every odd year.

Nerdlinger, can your list of rivals in a divisionless setup be contained in sets of 6 and 8? Not all 14 teams are listed in your reposts.

This is a creative approach. It's similar to the alternating trios alignment I presented, although a bit more complex. You've lost the annual Clemson/NCSU and Duke/GT matchups, but those aren't exactly heated rivalries.

The table for the divisionless setup does list all the teams -- you just have to scroll down. To your question, I suppose you could divide the teams in groups of 6 and 8, but that somewhat defeats the purpose of the divisionless setup.
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RE: A Realignment Proposal for the ACC
(07-05-2019 04:43 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(07-05-2019 11:45 AM)esayem Wrote:  Why don’t you do an alternate history of realignment where VaTech and WVU were admitted to the ACC at its inception, like the mean ol’ Tar Heels pushed for?

To this point, we did discuss such a scenario in the alternate history thread, starting here: https://csnbbs.com/thread-821510-post-16...id16047679

If UNC wanted that to happen, why didn't it? Genuinely curious.

UNC proposed the motion but couldn’t get enough votes. I’ve read it was mainly due to tough travel to those schools; roads in the mountains weren’t what they are now.
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RE: A Realignment Proposal for the ACC
(07-05-2019 02:07 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(07-05-2019 01:22 PM)esayem Wrote:  
(07-05-2019 12:19 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(07-05-2019 11:45 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(07-04-2019 04:01 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  So the ACC's existing divisions and schedule structure are ideal in your opinion? For all the schools?

They’re close. Virginia Tech is an old SoCon team with much more in common with the ACC than the Big East. Any talk of them placed in a “Big East” Division is nonsense. Why don’t you do an alternate history of realignment where VaTech and WVU were admitted to the ACC at its inception, like the mean ol’ Tar Heels pushed for?

IMO, the only better outcome from having divisions is a true zipper which maximizes TV games and rivalries. So some sort of swap between VaTech/Pitt and BC/Syracuse.

My out of the box solution which basically copies off the Big Ten’s one permanent rival:

UVa
VaTech
UNC
Duke
NC State
Wake
GaTech————Clemson
————————FSU
————————Miami
————————BC
————————Syracuse
————————Pitt
————————Louisville

Clemson gains Pitt and Miami, but loses NC State and Wake yearly.

FSU gains Pitt, but loses NC State and Wake yearly. They now cycle through the opposite division teams more, except for GaTech, which I believe would stay the same.

I like the out of the box thinking. However, even discounting the breakup of low-key historic rivalries like Clemson/NCSU, there are still the issues of competitive balance and distribution of the Florida teams. You have both Florida teams in one division, which also includes Clemson. The only heavy hitter in the other division is VT.

I count one national championship winning coach in each division.

The SEC has imbalanced FLA teams. Ohio State still recruits FLA. What’s the issue with FLA teams except you play them both more often?

The SEC has only one Florida team, so it has to be unbalanced, of course. 03-wink

I think the non-Florida ACC schools all want regular access to Florida for recruiting purposes, and that's most easily achieved by having FSU and Miami in separate divisions.

I think the Florida recruiting thing is a myth. The two were put in different divisions under the assumption they’d be in the CCG every year, which was in Florida for like the first five years or so.
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RE: A Realignment Proposal for the ACC
My modified version of esayem's "out of the box solution":

UVa
VaTech
UNC
Duke
NC State
Wake
Miami—————FSU
————————GaTech
————————Clemson
————————BC
————————Syracuse
————————Pitt
————————Louisville

Keeps all of VA and NC schools in one division
Guarantees at least one FL team on the schedule every year.
Miami and FSU play each other + 1 more rotating game with the opposite division; everyone else plays 2 rotating cross-division games.

For example:
Clemson keeps games with FSU and GT (as well as BC, Cuse and Louisville), trades NC State and Wake for Pitt + a second rotating game; great for the Tigers.
GT still plays Clemson and Pitt, plus any 2 of the top division, plus FSU; they get the least-desirable change (IMO), depending on how valuable that FSU game is.
FSU trades annual games with NC State and Wake for games with GT and Pitt (everything else stays the same for them).
Miami trades annual games with Pitt and GT for annual games with NC State and Wake (everything else stays the same for them).

This is an improvement for most teams, but not all (looking at GT). Also, Pitt/Miami has been annual for a LONG time, but under this would be replaced by Pitt/FSU.

THOUGHTS? (especially from GT, Pitt and Miami fans)?
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(07-06-2019 09:11 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(07-05-2019 04:43 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(07-05-2019 11:45 AM)esayem Wrote:  Why don’t you do an alternate history of realignment where VaTech and WVU were admitted to the ACC at its inception, like the mean ol’ Tar Heels pushed for?

To this point, we did discuss such a scenario in the alternate history thread, starting here: https://csnbbs.com/thread-821510-post-16...id16047679

If UNC wanted that to happen, why didn't it? Genuinely curious.

UNC proposed the motion but couldn’t get enough votes. I’ve read it was mainly due to tough travel to those schools; roads in the mountains weren’t what they are now.

It was more of a case of WVU and VT having more in common with the teams left behind in the SoCon than they had with the ACC at the time. Both schools voted with the small privates in the SoCon at the time to suspend Clemson and Maryland in 1952. There was no point in leaving the SoCon behind because of the small time thinking if we were going to import small time thinkers into the new conference.
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(07-06-2019 10:35 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  My modified version of esayem's "out of the box solution":

UVa
VaTech
UNC
Duke
NC State
Wake
Miami—————FSU
————————GaTech
————————Clemson
————————BC
————————Syracuse
————————Pitt
————————Louisville

Keeps all of VA and NC schools in one division
Guarantees at least one FL team on the schedule every year.
Miami and FSU play each other + 1 more rotating game with the opposite division; everyone else plays 2 rotating cross-division games.

For example:
Clemson keeps games with FSU and GT (as well as BC, Cuse and Louisville), trades NC State and Wake for Pitt + a second rotating game; great for the Tigers.
GT still plays Clemson and Pitt, plus any 2 of the top division, plus FSU; they get the least-desirable change (IMO), depending on how valuable that FSU game is.
FSU trades annual games with NC State and Wake for games with GT and Pitt (everything else stays the same for them).
Miami trades annual games with Pitt and GT for annual games with NC State and Wake (everything else stays the same for them).

This is an improvement for most teams, but not all (looking at GT). Also, Pitt/Miami has been annual for a LONG time, but under this would be replaced by Pitt/FSU.

THOUGHTS? (especially from GT, Pitt and Miami fans)?

I love this setup.

Youd be breaking up that VaTech BC game the ACC is bound and determined to protect.

The schools losing Ga Tech might not like it as well as Ga Tech itself
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(07-06-2019 10:35 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  My modified version of esayem's "out of the box solution":

UVa
VaTech
UNC
Duke
NC State
Wake
Miami—————FSU
————————GaTech
————————Clemson
————————BC
————————Syracuse
————————Pitt
————————Louisville

Keeps all of VA and NC schools in one division
Guarantees at least one FL team on the schedule every year.
Miami and FSU play each other + 1 more rotating game with the opposite division; everyone else plays 2 rotating cross-division games.

For example:
Clemson keeps games with FSU and GT (as well as BC, Cuse and Louisville), trades NC State and Wake for Pitt + a second rotating game; great for the Tigers.
GT still plays Clemson and Pitt, plus any 2 of the top division, plus FSU; they get the least-desirable change (IMO), depending on how valuable that FSU game is.
FSU trades annual games with NC State and Wake for games with GT and Pitt (everything else stays the same for them).
Miami trades annual games with Pitt and GT for annual games with NC State and Wake (everything else stays the same for them).

This is an improvement for most teams, but not all (looking at GT). Also, Pitt/Miami has been annual for a LONG time, but under this would be replaced by Pitt/FSU.

THOUGHTS? (especially from GT, Pitt and Miami fans)?

Re: Pitt/Miami, if by a long time, you mean since 2013, then yes, a long time. 03-wink

This is overall an improvement on SAM's setup, given that it's better balanced and splits the Florida teams, but I think Miami and GT are getting the shaft here. Miami loses its only northeastern annual opponent plus relatively nearby GT for even more games against NC teams. On the flip side, those NC games are desirable for GT, who loses both of their annual ones, including Duke, which they have played annually for an actual long time. GT gains FSU, which per Statefan they want to avoid, and also gains northeastern games, which unlike Miami they do not desire.
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(07-06-2019 11:12 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(07-06-2019 09:11 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(07-05-2019 04:43 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(07-05-2019 11:45 AM)esayem Wrote:  Why don’t you do an alternate history of realignment where VaTech and WVU were admitted to the ACC at its inception, like the mean ol’ Tar Heels pushed for?

To this point, we did discuss such a scenario in the alternate history thread, starting here: https://csnbbs.com/thread-821510-post-16...id16047679

If UNC wanted that to happen, why didn't it? Genuinely curious.

UNC proposed the motion but couldn’t get enough votes. I’ve read it was mainly due to tough travel to those schools; roads in the mountains weren’t what they are now.

It was more of a case of WVU and VT having more in common with the teams left behind in the SoCon than they had with the ACC at the time. Both schools voted with the small privates in the SoCon at the time to suspend Clemson and Maryland in 1952. There was no point in leaving the SoCon behind because of the small time thinking if we were going to import small time thinkers into the new conference.

Also probably the mean ol’ Heels trying to secure two more votes in their corner.

How did Wake get in? Did they vote with the small private schools?
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(07-06-2019 11:43 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(07-06-2019 11:12 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(07-06-2019 09:11 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(07-05-2019 04:43 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(07-05-2019 11:45 AM)esayem Wrote:  Why don’t you do an alternate history of realignment where VaTech and WVU were admitted to the ACC at its inception, like the mean ol’ Tar Heels pushed for?

To this point, we did discuss such a scenario in the alternate history thread, starting here: https://csnbbs.com/thread-821510-post-16...id16047679

If UNC wanted that to happen, why didn't it? Genuinely curious.

UNC proposed the motion but couldn’t get enough votes. I’ve read it was mainly due to tough travel to those schools; roads in the mountains weren’t what they are now.

It was more of a case of WVU and VT having more in common with the teams left behind in the SoCon than they had with the ACC at the time. Both schools voted with the small privates in the SoCon at the time to suspend Clemson and Maryland in 1952. There was no point in leaving the SoCon behind because of the small time thinking if we were going to import small time thinkers into the new conference.

Also probably the mean ol’ Heels trying to secure two more votes in their corner.

How did Wake get in? Did they vote with the small private schools?

From the thread I linked above, a few posts down:

(04-20-2019 11:31 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  https://www.newspapers.com/clip/30742308...from_1952/

This article indicates that the vote to put Clemson and UMD on probation for violating the SoCon's bowl ban went like so:

For (12): Davidson, Duke, George Washington, NC State, North Carolina, Richmond, Virginia Tech, VMI, Wake Forest, Washington & Lee, West Virginia, William & Mary

Against (5): Citadel, Clemson, Furman, Maryland, South Carolina

So if VT and WVU were excluded from the ACC for this vote, it would seem rather hypocritical of the NC-4 to go along with that.
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RE: A Realignment Proposal for the ACC
(07-06-2019 10:35 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  My modified version of esayem's "out of the box solution":

UVa
VaTech
UNC
Duke
NC State
Wake
Miami—————FSU
————————GaTech
————————Clemson
————————BC
————————Syracuse
————————Pitt
————————Louisville

I would say this could ruin the integrity of Rivalry Week, but the scheduling office is busy doing that anyway. This year we have:

Miami vs. Duke
Syracuse vs. Wake
Pitt vs. BC (this could be a rematch, folks!)

In this proposed line-up you could possibly rotate BC, SU, and Pitt with Miami during Rivalry Week.

IDK, guys. I think mine is better. I don’t see Miami or Georgia Tech going for Gobbler Marcus’.
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RE: A Realignment Proposal for the ACC
(07-06-2019 11:58 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(07-06-2019 10:35 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  My modified version of esayem's "out of the box solution":

UVa
VaTech
UNC
Duke
NC State
Wake
Miami—————FSU
————————GaTech
————————Clemson
————————BC
————————Syracuse
————————Pitt
————————Louisville

I would say this could ruin the integrity of Rivalry Week, but the scheduling office is busy doing that anyway. This year we have:

Miami vs. Duke
Syracuse vs. Wake
Pitt vs. BC (this could be a rematch, folks!)

In this proposed line-up you could possibly rotate BC, SU, and Pitt with Miami during Rivalry Week.

IDK, guys. I think mine is better. I don’t see Miami or Georgia Tech going for Gobbler Marcus’.

I dont think anyone would go for both FL schools being in the same division. If that obstacle could be overcome your setup would be very nice
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