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RE: Bowl projections
(11-13-2018 01:02 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: In theory, they would pick ULM for the same reason. Out of ULL, La Tech, and ULM, history shows that the NOLA bowl attendance is always double when at least one Louisiana school is playing.
ULM has never played in the New Orleans Bowl. You are using statistics from Louisiana and Louisiana Tech fanbases to make this assertion. Louisiana's average home attendance has been as much as double that of ULM in the last few seasons...
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RE: Bowl projections
(11-13-2018 01:16 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:02 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: In theory, they would pick ULM for the same reason. Out of ULL, La Tech, and ULM, history shows that the NOLA bowl attendance is always double when at least one Louisiana school is playing.
ULM has never played in the New Orleans Bowl. You are using statistics from Louisiana and Louisiana Tech fanbases to make this assertion. Louisiana's average home attendance has been as much as double that of ULM in the last few seasons...
Last year was the first year that the NOLA bowl didn't feature at least one Louisiana school since 2010 and attendance tanked. Even though ULM probably won't sell as many tickets as ULL has in the past, if attendance is going to be poor anyway if you invite a non-Louisiana school, why not just invite the closest eligible school you can?
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RE: Bowl projections
(11-13-2018 01:03 PM)arkstfan Wrote: (11-13-2018 12:36 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote: (11-13-2018 11:46 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: (11-12-2018 05:11 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: Our AD has said it too— both teams in championship game are guaranteed bowls. Of course now that won t effect us. Outside of those 2 we may have 3 bowls left for 5 other teams
So the title game winner and loser both get guaranteed spots and the NOLA bowl and Mobile bowl get 1st and 2nd pick respectively which means most years, the winner and loser of the title game will go to those bowls.
Let's pretend it's ULM and Troy in the title game, that would most likely put ULM in NOLA and Troy in Mobile regardless of the outcome. That leaves Montgomery, Orlando, and Arizona up for grabs.
App to Montgomery, GS to Orlando, and Arkansas State to Arizona.
Anyone else who is eligible at the end of the season is SOL unless CUSA or the MAC can't fill all of their bowl spots.
New Orleans is under no obligation to select a team from the title game. History has shown us that a bowl eligible Louisiana will get that game. I'd even argue they would pick Troy over ULM in your scenario.
Given that we are approaching the renegotiation period, I suspect NOLA understands they need the game that will make ESPN and their sponsor happy with viewership and the league happy to see them have first selection.
Can't imagine passing on the champ unless accommodating an ESPN request is in NOLA's interest at this point in the contract cycle.
I don't think the league can strong arm a bowl committee. You don't think the AAC or CUSA would love permanent tie-in with the bowl with the Sun Belt losing their premier bowl location?
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asucrutch23
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RE: Bowl projections
(11-13-2018 01:27 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:16 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:02 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: In theory, they would pick ULM for the same reason. Out of ULL, La Tech, and ULM, history shows that the NOLA bowl attendance is always double when at least one Louisiana school is playing.
ULM has never played in the New Orleans Bowl. You are using statistics from Louisiana and Louisiana Tech fanbases to make this assertion. Louisiana's average home attendance has been as much as double that of ULM in the last few seasons...
Last year was the first year that the NOLA bowl didn't feature at least one Louisiana school since 2010 and attendance tanked. Even though ULM probably won't sell as many tickets as ULL has in the past, if attendance is going to be poor anyway if you invite a non-Louisiana school, why not just invite the closest eligible school you can?
We'll see. Troy is only 30 minutes farther from New Orleans than Monroe and they have a much larger fanbase. I still think they'll select Louisiana regardless.
(This post was last modified: 11-13-2018 01:36 PM by asucrutch23.)
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RE: Bowl projections
(11-13-2018 01:34 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:27 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:16 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:02 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: In theory, they would pick ULM for the same reason. Out of ULL, La Tech, and ULM, history shows that the NOLA bowl attendance is always double when at least one Louisiana school is playing.
ULM has never played in the New Orleans Bowl. You are using statistics from Louisiana and Louisiana Tech fanbases to make this assertion. Louisiana's average home attendance has been as much as double that of ULM in the last few seasons...
Last year was the first year that the NOLA bowl didn't feature at least one Louisiana school since 2010 and attendance tanked. Even though ULM probably won't sell as many tickets as ULL has in the past, if attendance is going to be poor anyway if you invite a non-Louisiana school, why not just invite the closest eligible school you can?
We'll see. Troy is only 30 minutes farther from New Orleans than Monroe and they have a much larger fanbase. I still think they'll select Louisiana regardless.
Once ULL gets bowl eligible, that's completely changes the discussion. NOLA has invited ULL over a lot of other stronger teams in the past. They'll most likely do the same.
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RE: Bowl projections
(11-13-2018 01:38 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:34 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:27 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:16 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:02 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: In theory, they would pick ULM for the same reason. Out of ULL, La Tech, and ULM, history shows that the NOLA bowl attendance is always double when at least one Louisiana school is playing.
ULM has never played in the New Orleans Bowl. You are using statistics from Louisiana and Louisiana Tech fanbases to make this assertion. Louisiana's average home attendance has been as much as double that of ULM in the last few seasons...
Last year was the first year that the NOLA bowl didn't feature at least one Louisiana school since 2010 and attendance tanked. Even though ULM probably won't sell as many tickets as ULL has in the past, if attendance is going to be poor anyway if you invite a non-Louisiana school, why not just invite the closest eligible school you can?
We'll see. Troy is only 30 minutes farther from New Orleans than Monroe and they have a much larger fanbase. I still think they'll select Louisiana regardless.
Once ULL gets bowl eligible, that's completely changes the discussion. NOLA has invited ULL over a lot of other stronger teams in the past. They'll most likely do the same.
Yeah, they're over 90% to win at least 1 of the next 2. I think they get there.
(This post was last modified: 11-13-2018 01:47 PM by asucrutch23.)
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RE: Bowl projections
(11-13-2018 01:32 PM)CajunAmos Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:03 PM)arkstfan Wrote: (11-13-2018 12:36 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote: (11-13-2018 11:46 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: (11-12-2018 05:11 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: Our AD has said it too— both teams in championship game are guaranteed bowls. Of course now that won t effect us. Outside of those 2 we may have 3 bowls left for 5 other teams
So the title game winner and loser both get guaranteed spots and the NOLA bowl and Mobile bowl get 1st and 2nd pick respectively which means most years, the winner and loser of the title game will go to those bowls.
Let's pretend it's ULM and Troy in the title game, that would most likely put ULM in NOLA and Troy in Mobile regardless of the outcome. That leaves Montgomery, Orlando, and Arizona up for grabs.
App to Montgomery, GS to Orlando, and Arkansas State to Arizona.
Anyone else who is eligible at the end of the season is SOL unless CUSA or the MAC can't fill all of their bowl spots.
New Orleans is under no obligation to select a team from the title game. History has shown us that a bowl eligible Louisiana will get that game. I'd even argue they would pick Troy over ULM in your scenario.
Given that we are approaching the renegotiation period, I suspect NOLA understands they need the game that will make ESPN and their sponsor happy with viewership and the league happy to see them have first selection.
Can't imagine passing on the champ unless accommodating an ESPN request is in NOLA's interest at this point in the contract cycle.
I don't think the league can strong arm a bowl committee. You don't think the AAC or CUSA would love permanent tie-in with the bowl with the Sun Belt losing their premier bowl location?
And we can move our HQ to DFW or Birmingham and get the conference tournament out of NOLA.
If NOLA ain't going to pick anyone but the Cajuns, then they don't need first pick and we can move on and deal with someone else.
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RE: Bowl projections
(11-13-2018 03:44 PM)arkstfan Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:32 PM)CajunAmos Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:03 PM)arkstfan Wrote: (11-13-2018 12:36 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote: (11-13-2018 11:46 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: So the title game winner and loser both get guaranteed spots and the NOLA bowl and Mobile bowl get 1st and 2nd pick respectively which means most years, the winner and loser of the title game will go to those bowls.
Let's pretend it's ULM and Troy in the title game, that would most likely put ULM in NOLA and Troy in Mobile regardless of the outcome. That leaves Montgomery, Orlando, and Arizona up for grabs.
App to Montgomery, GS to Orlando, and Arkansas State to Arizona.
Anyone else who is eligible at the end of the season is SOL unless CUSA or the MAC can't fill all of their bowl spots.
New Orleans is under no obligation to select a team from the title game. History has shown us that a bowl eligible Louisiana will get that game. I'd even argue they would pick Troy over ULM in your scenario.
Given that we are approaching the renegotiation period, I suspect NOLA understands they need the game that will make ESPN and their sponsor happy with viewership and the league happy to see them have first selection.
Can't imagine passing on the champ unless accommodating an ESPN request is in NOLA's interest at this point in the contract cycle.
I don't think the league can strong arm a bowl committee. You don't think the AAC or CUSA would love permanent tie-in with the bowl with the Sun Belt losing their premier bowl location?
And we can move our HQ to DFW or Birmingham and get the conference tournament out of NOLA.
If NOLA ain't going to pick anyone but the Cajuns, then they don't need first pick and we can move on and deal with someone else.
There are a lot of Cajun fans who don’t want to go to Nola every year. But we sure as hell ain’t gonna pull a LaTurd and say no thanks.
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RE: Bowl projections
(11-13-2018 03:47 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote: (11-13-2018 03:44 PM)arkstfan Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:32 PM)CajunAmos Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:03 PM)arkstfan Wrote: (11-13-2018 12:36 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote: New Orleans is under no obligation to select a team from the title game. History has shown us that a bowl eligible Louisiana will get that game. I'd even argue they would pick Troy over ULM in your scenario.
Given that we are approaching the renegotiation period, I suspect NOLA understands they need the game that will make ESPN and their sponsor happy with viewership and the league happy to see them have first selection.
Can't imagine passing on the champ unless accommodating an ESPN request is in NOLA's interest at this point in the contract cycle.
I don't think the league can strong arm a bowl committee. You don't think the AAC or CUSA would love permanent tie-in with the bowl with the Sun Belt losing their premier bowl location?
And we can move our HQ to DFW or Birmingham and get the conference tournament out of NOLA.
If NOLA ain't going to pick anyone but the Cajuns, then they don't need first pick and we can move on and deal with someone else.
There are a lot of Cajun fans who don’t want to go to Nola every year. But we sure as hell ain’t gonna pull a LaTurd and say no thanks.
Not the Cajuns responsibility.
It is the conference's responsibility to deal with those issues.
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RE: Bowl projections
ULM brought 24,000 to Shreveport. We would draw well in NOLA, especially it against Tech. Not saying they wouldn’t pick the Cajuns over us though.
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RE: Bowl projections
(11-13-2018 01:34 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:27 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:16 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:02 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: In theory, they would pick ULM for the same reason. Out of ULL, La Tech, and ULM, history shows that the NOLA bowl attendance is always double when at least one Louisiana school is playing.
ULM has never played in the New Orleans Bowl. You are using statistics from Louisiana and Louisiana Tech fanbases to make this assertion. Louisiana's average home attendance has been as much as double that of ULM in the last few seasons...
Last year was the first year that the NOLA bowl didn't feature at least one Louisiana school since 2010 and attendance tanked. Even though ULM probably won't sell as many tickets as ULL has in the past, if attendance is going to be poor anyway if you invite a non-Louisiana school, why not just invite the closest eligible school you can?
We'll see. Troy is only 30 minutes farther from New Orleans than Monroe and they have a much larger fanbase. I still think they'll select Louisiana regardless.
ULM has alumni in South La as well. If ULM gets into NOLA Bowl we would bring some folks.
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(11-13-2018 07:37 PM)Arrowhead Wrote: ULM brought 24,000 to Shreveport. We would draw well in NOLA, especially it against Tech. Not saying they wouldn’t pick the Cajuns over us though.
I’ve talked to a lot out of state people and If we make NOLA Bowl they’re coming for sure.
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(11-13-2018 07:37 PM)Arrowhead Wrote: ULM brought 24,000 to Shreveport. We would draw well in NOLA, especially it against Tech. Not saying they wouldn’t pick the Cajuns over us though.
ULM’s home attendance is down 6000 from that season too; I hate it, but ULM is not an attractive bowl team.
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Are you sure you are a Warhawk fan?
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RE: Bowl projections
(11-13-2018 09:57 PM)Arrowhead Wrote: Are you sure you are a Warhawk fan?
Because I take fandom out of an equation and try and see what things really are? I just see other programs that are better supported by their communities and better draws.
Ultimately, I hope that we can win the west and make the CCG to guarantee a spot which I think at that point would be Montgomery or Arizona.
I'm not debating the fact that we brought a ton to Shreveport, I just don't know if that's enough unfortunately.
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RE: Bowl projections
(11-12-2018 01:19 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote: ESPN has just released their projections (per Kyle Bonagura & Mitch Sherman)(++=At Large)
Cure:
B: ULM. S Tulane
S: Coastal vs Temple
Camellia:
B: App State vs EMU
S: Ga Southern vs Ohio
New Orleans:
B:Ga Southern vs Marshall
S: UAB vs Louisiana
++Birmingham Bowl:
S: Memphis vs App State
Dollar General:
B: Troy vs Buffalo
S: Astate vs NIU
++Quicklane:
S: ULM vs EMU
Arizona:
B: Astate vs Nevada
S: Troy vs Nevada
Good thing ESPN is projecting App against Memphis, considering their Bowl ownership. Could be interesting given how well Memphis has done of late.
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ESPN owning bowls and these projections have zero to do with each othe.
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RE: Bowl projections
(11-13-2018 01:38 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:34 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:27 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:16 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote: (11-13-2018 01:02 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: In theory, they would pick ULM for the same reason. Out of ULL, La Tech, and ULM, history shows that the NOLA bowl attendance is always double when at least one Louisiana school is playing.
ULM has never played in the New Orleans Bowl. You are using statistics from Louisiana and Louisiana Tech fanbases to make this assertion. Louisiana's average home attendance has been as much as double that of ULM in the last few seasons...
Last year was the first year that the NOLA bowl didn't feature at least one Louisiana school since 2010 and attendance tanked. Even though ULM probably won't sell as many tickets as ULL has in the past, if attendance is going to be poor anyway if you invite a non-Louisiana school, why not just invite the closest eligible school you can?
We'll see. Troy is only 30 minutes farther from New Orleans than Monroe and they have a much larger fanbase. I still think they'll select Louisiana regardless.
Once ULL gets bowl eligible, that's completely changes the discussion. NOLA has invited ULL over a lot of other stronger teams in the past. They'll most likely do the same.
A potential tech vs ULM matchup would likely get high consideration for Nola bowl. tech and ULM alum that haven’t supported their universities any in the past would attend this one.
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RE: Bowl projections
Oh please oh please let it be ULM and La Tech. Based on the stuff I read here I'd laugh so hard for ULM to beat them.
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RE: Bowl projections
A couple of things here:
The loser of the championship game is NOT guaranteed a spot in a bowl. The league will push for it, but it isn't a done deal, especially in a year where the division champion is 6-6 and then loses the title game. I do believe the title game loser will get placed but it is NOT automatic.
Now as far as the NO bowl is concerned, I'd love it if the champion got an auto there. But, again just my opinion, that should only happen if the other conference agrees to send their champion as well. Now New Orleans would have something to market.
Barring that, they should select the team that's going to sell the most tickets. The six highest attended bowls have had Louisiana schools participating, including La. Tech's appearance a couple of years ago.
I know everyone would like to play in New Orleans.
I'm not assuming a 6-6 Louisiana team gets taken automatically by NO. But a 7-5 Louisiana team that finishes either 7-6 or 8-5 after the title game is a lock.
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