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RE: MBB: Dukes host Bridgewater (Monday, 7pm, MadiZone)
Very happy with Wilson's development. I thought he deserved more playing time last year, and now with Phillips out for a bit he should really get to cement his role on this team. Wilson has earned the playing time, and he could be the difference maker in elevating the team into the top levels of the CAA.
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(11-13-2018 12:52 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  Very happy with Wilson's development. I thought he deserved more playing time last year, and now with Phillips out for a bit he should really get to cement his role on this team. Wilson has earned the playing time, and he could be the difference maker in elevating the team into the top levels of the CAA.

Yep. Unless Wilson is in foul trouble he should be taking minutes from Jacobs and/or Phillips. If Jacobs/Phillips want their minutes back, offer results on the court.


The fact that Wilson showed up this year in shape was a big indicator that he wants time on the court. I think he is becoming a crowd favorite.
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RE: MBB: Dukes host Bridgewater (Monday, 7pm, MadiZone)
(11-13-2018 01:16 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  
(11-13-2018 12:52 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  Very happy with Wilson's development. I thought he deserved more playing time last year, and now with Phillips out for a bit he should really get to cement his role on this team. Wilson has earned the playing time, and he could be the difference maker in elevating the team into the top levels of the CAA.

Yep. Unless Wilson is in foul trouble he should be taking minutes from Jacobs and/or Phillips. If Jacobs/Phillips want their minutes back, offer results on the court.


The fact that Wilson showed up this year in shape was a big indicator that he wants time on the court. I think he is becoming a crowd favorite.

Wilson the new JYD?
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RE: MBB: Dukes host Bridgewater (Monday, 7pm, MadiZone)
(11-13-2018 02:15 PM)5000DOLLARBILL Wrote:  
(11-13-2018 01:16 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  
(11-13-2018 12:52 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  Very happy with Wilson's development. I thought he deserved more playing time last year, and now with Phillips out for a bit he should really get to cement his role on this team. Wilson has earned the playing time, and he could be the difference maker in elevating the team into the top levels of the CAA.

Yep. Unless Wilson is in foul trouble he should be taking minutes from Jacobs and/or Phillips. If Jacobs/Phillips want their minutes back, offer results on the court.


The fact that Wilson showed up this year in shape was a big indicator that he wants time on the court. I think he is becoming a crowd favorite.

Wilson the new JYD?

This is a very real possibility. I think Juwann was a bit shorter than DJ, but made up for it in wingspan. JJ was much slimmer, coming into jmu at 220 his freshman here. DJ came in at a healthy 260 (at least). JJ was a double double machine, even as a freshman. I think its going to take more for DJ to come into his own and develop a motor like JJ had, but perhaps he has a higher ceiling. JJ tapered off his rebounding production as he got older, which was a curious development.
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RE: MBB: Dukes host Bridgewater (Monday, 7pm, MadiZone)
Also - Pinkard, while hes not shown that he is a good shooter, he has shown he is low key very athletic. His baseline two handed slam was impressive. Also, also, Parker airballing a free throw? Cmon man!
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(11-13-2018 02:15 PM)5000DOLLARBILL Wrote:  
(11-13-2018 01:16 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  
(11-13-2018 12:52 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  Very happy with Wilson's development. I thought he deserved more playing time last year, and now with Phillips out for a bit he should really get to cement his role on this team. Wilson has earned the playing time, and he could be the difference maker in elevating the team into the top levels of the CAA.

Yep. Unless Wilson is in foul trouble he should be taking minutes from Jacobs and/or Phillips. If Jacobs/Phillips want their minutes back, offer results on the court.


The fact that Wilson showed up this year in shape was a big indicator that he wants time on the court. I think he is becoming a crowd favorite.

Wilson the new JYD?

I hear you, but to me, Wilson is more polished and smooth, then what I think of a jyd.
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RE: MBB: Dukes host Bridgewater (Monday, 7pm, MadiZone)
Juwann James (loved watching that guy play) was 6'4" with his shoes on even though he was listed at 6'6".

Dwight Wilson would be the incredible hulk if he put 20 pounds of muscle on his shoulders. His lower body could support Shaq now.
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RE: MBB: Dukes host Bridgewater (Monday, 7pm, MadiZone)
Wilson lost weight and looks great and can help them now vs everyone esp rebounding and on the offensive end.

Banks improved his shooting and is trending towards the trajectory of an all league player jr/sr year.

Lewis needs to be what we thought he was and theyll be fine. He isn't a knockdown shooter yet but attacking, drawing fouls NOT TURNING IT OVER. He has to stop turning it over if going to be the main ball handler.
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(11-13-2018 11:37 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(11-13-2018 08:51 AM)Potomac Wrote:  Please tell me we’re finally done with the embarrassing part of our OOC schedule?

We are, though I've said if these games must be played, having them at the beginning is where they need to be. Hopefully, the taste of victory has infected the players. I think I'd rather have this easy schedule and have lots of wins than endure the 11 losses in our OOC play two seasons ago.

I agree that the program has to learn how to win, but there’s 350 D1 teams, some just as crappy as D3 ODAC schools but not nearly the RPI drain.

We’re just being lazier than our FCS scheduling of the last 15 years.
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(11-13-2018 06:31 PM)Potomac Wrote:  
(11-13-2018 11:37 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(11-13-2018 08:51 AM)Potomac Wrote:  Please tell me we’re finally done with the embarrassing part of our OOC schedule?

We are, though I've said if these games must be played, having them at the beginning is where they need to be. Hopefully, the taste of victory has infected the players. I think I'd rather have this easy schedule and have lots of wins than endure the 11 losses in our OOC play two seasons ago.

I agree that the program has to learn how to win, but there’s 350 D1 teams, some just as crappy as D3 ODAC schools but not nearly the RPI drain.

We’re just being lazier than our FCS scheduling of the last 15 years.

I don't think non D1 schools count toward RPI- that's why teams have been scheduling them.

I agree that the scheduling is poor and these warm up games probably don't serve any purpose. I think JMU has been challenged to get home games vs. quality teams but with the new NCAA scoring system and the new arena hopefully coinciding with a period of respectability from the basketball program that should change moving forward.
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RE: MBB: Dukes host Bridgewater (Monday, 7pm, MadiZone)
Correct, NJ. Games against non-D1 are not in the RPI.

Of course the likelihood that our RPI makes any difference whatsoever is extremely small anyway. The Selection Committee to the NCAAT has de-emphasized the RPI for going on a decade. We are in a 1-bid league. If we win the CAA regular season we get an auto berth into the NIT if we don’t win the CAAT. None of which involves the RPI.

JMU gets the gate ($$$$) for these games and pays nothing to the opponent since they are local. Plus they bring some paying fans across town...perhaps more than a D1 cupcake some place else.
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While the winning this year vs a weaker is probably self serving for Coach Rowe I do think winning will help the program as well because hes already recruiting well under current circumstances but being on the "upswing" will be much better look when they are trying to lock guys up.

They still will need to win in the league, and in the end thats mostly all that matters.
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(11-13-2018 06:28 PM)UofRfan Wrote:  Wilson lost weight and looks great and can help them now vs everyone esp rebounding and on the offensive end.

Banks improved his shooting and is trending towards the trajectory of an all league player jr/sr year.

Lewis needs to be what we thought he was and theyll be fine. He isn't a knockdown shooter yet but attacking, drawing fouls NOT TURNING IT OVER. He has to stop turning it over if going to be the main ball handler.

Just a reminder Banks was a consensus 3 star recruit. I only mention this because some folks on these boards don't put as much weight on star ratings and recruiting when building a program. Count me in the category who does. Christmas is 3 stars as well. I think you'd find a pretty high correlation to all league and 3 stars at a mid major. It's not a perfect system but when JMU gets a 3 star this tells me the kid has a higher ceiling.
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Does the NCAA use RPI anymore? I thought they were switching to the NET formula.
At any rate I don’t think that includes D III games either.

They only serve as a phony win on the ledger that people see and no impact on strength of schedule. When it comes to evaliuation time for the NCAA I suspect they will look at all teams while only including D-1 games.

So if JMU finishes 19-12, they would be viewed as 17-12 this year.

I wish the CAA would take a hard stance and say no to DII or DIII games.
The conference and teams would be much better served playing real competition
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FWIW, some Tuesday night CAA games in progress...

-UNCW losing to UNC-Greensboro at home by 16 at the half, 45-29.

-Delaware leading (non-D1) Chestnut Hill at home by 22 at the half, 50-28.

-Charleston at home leading Rhode Island with just under 2' left in the half, 29-18.
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(11-13-2018 06:57 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Correct, NJ. Games against non-D1 are not in the RPI.

Of course the likelihood that our RPI makes any difference whatsoever is extremely small anyway. The Selection Committee to the NCAAT has de-emphasized the RPI for going on a decade. We are in a 1-bid league. If we win the CAA regular season we get an auto berth into the NIT if we don’t win the CAAT. None of which involves the RPI.

JMU gets the gate ($$$$) for these games and pays nothing to the opponent since they are local. Plus they bring some paying fans across town...perhaps more than a D1 cupcake some place else.

What does it take for CAA to ever be considered for a non aq bid? When was last time, gmu and vcu?
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It’s a little sad that RPI doesn’t take into account non-D1 games. Even if it’s just one rank worse than the last D1. 357 or whatever.

Where RPI does matter is convincing other schools to schedule us OOC. They don’t want our crappy rating dragging down their rating. If we want to improve our scheduling, we actually have to attempt to play the best and then actually win when we do play them.
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(11-13-2018 11:44 PM)5000DOLLARBILL Wrote:  
(11-13-2018 06:57 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Correct, NJ. Games against non-D1 are not in the RPI.

Of course the likelihood that our RPI makes any difference whatsoever is extremely small anyway. The Selection Committee to the NCAAT has de-emphasized the RPI for going on a decade. We are in a 1-bid league. If we win the CAA regular season we get an auto berth into the NIT if we don’t win the CAAT. None of which involves the RPI.

JMU gets the gate ($$$$) for these games and pays nothing to the opponent since they are local. Plus they bring some paying fans across town...perhaps more than a D1 cupcake some place else.

What does it take for CAA to ever be considered for a non aq bid? When was last time, gmu and vcu?

Just anecdotal here but I think mid major at large bids are down and I include leagues like the A-10 in that. I wouldn't beat ourselves up too much on the state of the CAA. It's a solid league but I feel like it's become harder for mid majors to get at large bids. During the high of the CAA you had the bracket buster event which helped to some extent. The A-10 was fortunate to get multiple bids last year and is off to a really poor start this year and looks like a 1 bid league to me. Mason is now 0-3 with a veteran group that returned.
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(11-13-2018 07:55 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  FWIW, some Tuesday night CAA games in progress...

-UNCW losing to UNC-Greensboro at home by 16 at the half, 45-29.

-Delaware leading (non-D1) Chestnut Hill at home by 22 at the half, 50-28.

-Charleston at home leading Rhode Island with just under 2' left in the half, 29-18.

It's early but it looks like Northeastern (win vs Harvard who just beat Umass last night) and Charleston (win vs. Rhode Island) are proving themselves to be the upper tier of the conference. I think there is a drop off after that. W&M and Hofstra should be solid but UNCW looks bad this year- it's unexpected with some guys returning from last years team (namely Cacok as a dominating senior big) but sometimes (like George Mason early on) returning a bunch of guys doesn't necessarily translate to a good year. As Coach Rowe has said each season and team is it's own season or team.

With UNCW struggling JMU has a chance to be in that 4th or 5th spot or maybe even 3rd in the CAA but we have a long way to go.
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CAA looks like a one bid league for sure from looking at the early scores and power rankings.
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