(11-26-2018 12:25 PM)Tigx Wrote:  If Magic were losing, the would trade Fournier for expiring contracts to get out of paying him the out years. So we could have traded JMyke and Garrett, for example to match this year's Fournier salary.

I guess they could stretch Chandler now, but I think they wait until next summer. If Chandler misses half, so 41 games, this season, the Grizz get some kind of insurance injury payment.

Hypothetically trading Temple would be a mistake. Temple has been a pleasant surprise on the offensive end.

It's the 3 position that the grizzlies are offensively inept. It's the position that they need help at and have needed help at for years.

(11-26-2018 12:41 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 12:25 PM)Tigx Wrote:  If Magic were losing, the would trade Fournier for expiring contracts to get out of paying him the out years. So we could have traded JMyke and Garrett, for example to match this year's Fournier salary.

I guess they could stretch Chandler now, but I think they wait until next summer. If Chandler misses half, so 41 games, this season, the Grizz get some kind of insurance injury payment.

Hypothetically trading Temple would be a mistake. Temple has been a pleasant surprise on the offensive end.

It's the 3 position that the grizzlies are offensively inept. It's the position that they need help at and have needed help at for years.

I like Garrett, but he has really tailed off since that 30 point game. 4,6 and 5 points the last 3 games. Down to a 10 PER. Garrett is smart and a true pro. But he'll be 33 in May, and is not a quality #2 starter on a playoff team, imo. If we need to move him to improve the 2 slot, we do it.

We’ll have to agree to disagree on the need for a backup Center.

We cannot get a legit scoring option that’s not on a roster right now. So I don’t understand why tigers0830 you have a big problem with filling the open roster with a backup C. If you think there are players out there that can take the open spot and is not on another team, can you provide names?

(11-26-2018 12:41 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 12:25 PM)Tigx Wrote:  If Magic were losing, the would trade Fournier for expiring contracts to get out of paying him the out years. So we could have traded JMyke and Garrett, for example to match this year's Fournier salary.

I guess they could stretch Chandler now, but I think they wait until next summer. If Chandler misses half, so 41 games, this season, the Grizz get some kind of insurance injury payment.

Hypothetically trading Temple would be a mistake. Temple has been a pleasant surprise on the offensive end.

It's the 3 position that the grizzlies are offensively inept. It's the position that they need help at and have needed help at for years.

Temple has come back to earth since his hot start

(11-26-2018 12:48 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 12:41 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 12:25 PM)Tigx Wrote:  If Magic were losing, the would trade Fournier for expiring contracts to get out of paying him the out years. So we could have traded JMyke and Garrett, for example to match this year's Fournier salary.

I guess they could stretch Chandler now, but I think they wait until next summer. If Chandler misses half, so 41 games, this season, the Grizz get some kind of insurance injury payment.

Hypothetically trading Temple would be a mistake. Temple has been a pleasant surprise on the offensive end.

It's the 3 position that the grizzlies are offensively inept. It's the position that they need help at and have needed help at for years.

Temple has come back to earth since his hot start

Which was expected and the same with Mack. Still Temple is averaging a career high in points and fg%.

(11-26-2018 12:47 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  We’ll have to agree to disagree on the need for a backup Center.

We cannot get a legit scoring option that’s not on a roster right now. So I don’t understand why tigers0830 you have a big problem with filling the open roster with a backup C. If you think there are players out there that can take the open spot and is not on another team, can you provide names?

My biggest issue with signing Noah now is why now? Noah will be available still in a few months so why the rush?

Explore other scoring options and then if they don't like any of them then go get Noah, but the immediate need isn't a backup center. It just isn't.

(11-26-2018 12:55 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 12:47 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  We’ll have to agree to disagree on the need for a backup Center.

We cannot get a legit scoring option that’s not on a roster right now. So I don’t understand why tigers0830 you have a big problem with filling the open roster with a backup C. If you think there are players out there that can take the open spot and is not on another team, can you provide names?

My biggest issue with signing Noah now is why now? Noah will be available still in a few months so why the rush?

Explore other scoring options and then if they don't like any of them then go get Noah, but the immediate need isn't a backup center. It just isn't.

What are the other scoring options though? IMO there aren’t any you can get without a trade at the moment. Maybe the team has explored those options? No one knows for sure

(11-26-2018 12:45 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 12:41 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 12:25 PM)Tigx Wrote:  If Magic were losing, the would trade Fournier for expiring contracts to get out of paying him the out years. So we could have traded JMyke and Garrett, for example to match this year's Fournier salary.

I guess they could stretch Chandler now, but I think they wait until next summer. If Chandler misses half, so 41 games, this season, the Grizz get some kind of insurance injury payment.

Hypothetically trading Temple would be a mistake. Temple has been a pleasant surprise on the offensive end.

It's the 3 position that the grizzlies are offensively inept. It's the position that they need help at and have needed help at for years.

I like Garrett, but he has really tailed off since that 30 point game. 4,6 and 5 points the last 3 games. Down to a 10 PER. Garrett is smart and a true pro. But he'll be 33 in May, and is not a quality #2 starter on a playoff team, imo. If we need to move him to improve the 2 slot, we do it.

The thing is I don't think the 2 slot is as big of an issue with this team as the 3 slot is. They have minimal scoring production from that spot. They need more there.

Brooks getting hurt was unfortunate. He can be the scoring wing option.

(11-26-2018 01:08 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Brooks getting hurt was unfortunate. He can be the scoring wing option.

Agree and hope we both are right. Grizz needed either Dillon or Selden to step up. I had high hopes for Selden, but am beginning to give up. His 3-point shot looks so pure, and he can bully his way to the rim. But just can't put it all together. He had some big scoring games last spring, but producing on a winning team is different.

(11-26-2018 01:13 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 01:08 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Brooks getting hurt was unfortunate. He can be the scoring wing option.

Agree and hope we both are right. Grizz needed either Dillon or Selden to step up. I had high hopes for Selden, but am beginning to give up. His 3-point shot looks so pure, and he can bully his way to the rim. But just can't put it all together. He had some big scoring games last spring, but producing on a winning team is different.

My worry with Dillon is how close to 100% will he be. Like will the knee respond well once he starts playing again? It's reasonable concern

Selden is by far a huge disappointment.

(11-26-2018 02:27 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 01:13 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 01:08 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Brooks getting hurt was unfortunate. He can be the scoring wing option.

Agree and hope we both are right. Grizz needed either Dillon or Selden to step up. I had high hopes for Selden, but am beginning to give up. His 3-point shot looks so pure, and he can bully his way to the rim. But just can't put it all together. He had some big scoring games last spring, but producing on a winning team is different.

My worry with Dillon is how close to 100% will he be. Like will the knee respond well once he starts playing again? It's reasonable concern

Selden is by far a huge disappointment.

Re Dillon, at least there was no surgery.

Nearing time to give up on Selden, I'm afraid. The 2 guard slot has been wide open for a while, and he hasn't been able to seize it.

I wouldn't mind JB giving him like a 10 game run as a starter to see if playing his minutes with Mike and Marc would help him.

(11-26-2018 03:49 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 02:27 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 01:13 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 01:08 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Brooks getting hurt was unfortunate. He can be the scoring wing option.

Agree and hope we both are right. Grizz needed either Dillon or Selden to step up. I had high hopes for Selden, but am beginning to give up. His 3-point shot looks so pure, and he can bully his way to the rim. But just can't put it all together. He had some big scoring games last spring, but producing on a winning team is different.

My worry with Dillon is how close to 100% will he be. Like will the knee respond well once he starts playing again? It's reasonable concern

Selden is by far a huge disappointment.

Re Dillon, at least there was no surgery.

Nearing time to give up on Selden, I'm afraid. The 2 guard slot has been wide open for a while, and he hasn't been able to seize it.

I wouldn't mind JB giving him like a 10 game run as a starter to see if playing his minutes with Mike and Marc would help him.

True Re Dillon.

Agree on Selden.

(11-26-2018 12:52 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 12:48 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 12:41 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 12:25 PM)Tigx Wrote:  If Magic were losing, the would trade Fournier for expiring contracts to get out of paying him the out years. So we could have traded JMyke and Garrett, for example to match this year's Fournier salary.

I guess they could stretch Chandler now, but I think they wait until next summer. If Chandler misses half, so 41 games, this season, the Grizz get some kind of insurance injury payment.

Hypothetically trading Temple would be a mistake. Temple has been a pleasant surprise on the offensive end.

It's the 3 position that the grizzlies are offensively inept. It's the position that they need help at and have needed help at for years.

Temple has come back to earth since his hot start

Which was expected and the same with Mack. Still Temple is averaging a career high in points and fg%.

Him playing a career high in minutes is the reason his points are higher and his fg% is dropping with every game. He’s not a starter on a team that’s going anywhere

(11-26-2018 05:01 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 12:52 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 12:48 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 12:41 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 12:25 PM)Tigx Wrote:  If Magic were losing, the would trade Fournier for expiring contracts to get out of paying him the out years. So we could have traded JMyke and Garrett, for example to match this year's Fournier salary.

I guess they could stretch Chandler now, but I think they wait until next summer. If Chandler misses half, so 41 games, this season, the Grizz get some kind of insurance injury payment.

Hypothetically trading Temple would be a mistake. Temple has been a pleasant surprise on the offensive end.

It's the 3 position that the grizzlies are offensively inept. It's the position that they need help at and have needed help at for years.

Temple has come back to earth since his hot start

Which was expected and the same with Mack. Still Temple is averaging a career high in points and fg%.

Him playing a career high in minutes is the reason his points are higher and his fg% is dropping with every game. He’s not a starter on a team that’s going anywhere

Agree. Temple is a quality rotation player, but not a starter on a playoff team. I know Mike and Marc like him because he is smart, and is always in the right place. But we need more scoring punch at the 2.

Without looking it up, I believe the Grizz started the season at a projected 32.5 wins on Goldstein's model.

Another loss

Gasol again playing heavy mins (39) and hurt his ankle in the process.
We need Dillon back soon.

So 6-4 again in the 2nd 10 games. Grizz are 12-8.

But disappointing. 3 straight losses. Had a 17 point lead on the team with the best record in the league. And a 9 point lead with under 6 minutes left.

Third straight game they haven’t been able to close it out in the 4th

(11-27-2018 10:33 PM)Tigx Wrote:  So 6-4 again in the 2nd 10 games. Grizz are 12-8.

But disappointing. 3 straight losses. Had a 17 point lead on the team with the best record in the league. And a 9 point lead with under 6 minutes left.

Agree, another 6-4 but a disappointing one. I'll take another 6-4 over our next 10 though. Hopefully an 18-12 in a few weeks.