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(11-16-2018 03:59 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(11-16-2018 01:06 PM)getmhawks Wrote:  I'm good with Keatts being gone. It's completely fair to compare our team's progression to previous successful coaches/systems. The most successful years in our program were under Coach W, B, and K. Those should be the benchmarks. Commonalities between those three eras are apparent even if they had different recipes for success.

Do you want us to compare our team/coaches to the Benny and Buzz years? I'm pretty sure those aren't the measures to calibrate our barometers with.

EDIT: But I hear you and I'll move on. We CHOSE to rebuild so we need patience now.

Wainwright was 13-16 in his second season at UNCW and we all remember his tenure fondly. McGrath is not going to implement the same style as Keatts...HE'S NOT GOING TO so it's frustrating to hear the same complaints after every loss. I hope for adjustments and improvement. I'm not saying I'm satisfied where we are, but there is more than one way to win. The solution after EVERY disappointment can't be PRESS.


It doesn't help that two lesser programs adopted the press since Keatts came to UNCW, and both beat us in two of our first three games, with UNCG smoking us. I've been a UNCW fan too long and recognize that a run and gun offense has never worked here. We've slowed it down and played lights out D, and we've run and gun with a press. Those are the only two styles of play that took us to the NCAA tournament. Sorry, those are the facts. And until I see success with a high paced offense minus the press, i'm not convinced it will lead us back to the NCAA tournament. Benny, Buzz and now McGrath have tried and failed(McGrath may turn it around, but i'll be surprised).
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(11-16-2018 04:16 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-16-2018 03:59 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(11-16-2018 01:06 PM)getmhawks Wrote:  I'm good with Keatts being gone. It's completely fair to compare our team's progression to previous successful coaches/systems. The most successful years in our program were under Coach W, B, and K. Those should be the benchmarks. Commonalities between those three eras are apparent even if they had different recipes for success.

Do you want us to compare our team/coaches to the Benny and Buzz years? I'm pretty sure those aren't the measures to calibrate our barometers with.

EDIT: But I hear you and I'll move on. We CHOSE to rebuild so we need patience now.

Wainwright was 13-16 in his second season at UNCW and we all remember his tenure fondly. McGrath is not going to implement the same style as Keatts...HE'S NOT GOING TO so it's frustrating to hear the same complaints after every loss. I hope for adjustments and improvement. I'm not saying I'm satisfied where we are, but there is more than one way to win. The solution after EVERY disappointment can't be PRESS.


It doesn't help that two lesser programs adopted the press since Keatts came to UNCW, and both beat us in two of our first three games, with UNCG smoking us. I've been a UNCW fan too long and recognize that a run and gun offense has never worked here. We've slowed it down and played lights out D, and we've run and gun with a press. Those are the only two styles of play that took us to the NCAA tournament. Sorry, those are the facts. And until I see success with a high paced offense minus the press, i'm not convinced it will lead us back to the NCAA tournament. Benny, Buzz and now McGrath have tried and failed(McGrath may turn it around, but i'll be surprised).
In fairness both Campbell and G were using slightly more than a half court trap, not a full court press.
11-16-2018 04:18 PM
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(11-15-2018 06:48 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-15-2018 05:05 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  Cool it.


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This is how this nonsense happens every time. I discuss strategy and what works/doesn't work, and then those who can't stick to a discussion devolve into personal attacks. Like it or not, Keatts brought a system that worked which has now been adopted by two traditionally crappy in state schools who just beat us(one smoked us). Personally attacking Keatts(or me) doesn't change the truth.

Y'all enjoy the downward spiral.


Forgive me a little here. I’m catching back up after working a night shift in the middle of a normal work week.

To be fair, I posted this “Cool it.” post not as a reply to a specific person but I could, like everyone else here, sense the unnecessary tension. Referring back to post #95 on this thread I made a casual joke concerning myself and Mullet. 82, you specifically at that point decided to go on the offensive on your own volition there. Nobody has personally attacked Keatts here. There are varying opinions here on him, and quite honestly the majority of us simply have moved on from caring about him, regardless of how he left because we are far more concerned with our Seahawks currently for better or worse. Downward spiral, upward spiral, corkscrew, on the tracks, off the tracks, whatever... I’m going to enjoy it all because it’s UNCW Seahawks basketball.

Regardless, we all need to chill and remember we are on the same team here. We may have differing Xs and Os opinions on what works or doesn’t but none of us should feel personally slighted by comments on a message board. Personally, I don’t care if someone says they do or don’t have more basketball knowledge than I. Who cares? This is a classic example of the need to just relax.

Anyways...

We’ve seen success using a defensive minded “slow the game and offense” method succeed and we’ve seen high tempo offense and press succeed. We’ve also seen how both failed us and the stubbornness of coaches in those systems led to losses. The grass is always greener. I’m confident McGrath is going to get to a style that works.

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I'm old, maybe I don't understand what STFU means....
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(11-16-2018 04:43 PM)82hawk Wrote:  I'm old, maybe I don't understand what STFU means....

I’m not addressing this anymore. Feel free to PM if there’s something I’m missing that you’re taking issue with.

Everyone here is more interested in talking about Seahawks basketball than a pissing match between two posters. Thanks.


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(11-16-2018 05:54 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-16-2018 04:43 PM)82hawk Wrote:  I'm old, maybe I don't understand what STFU means....

I’m not addressing this publicly anymore. Feel free to PM if there’s something I’m missing that you’re taking issue with.

Everyone here is more interested in talking about Seahawks basketball than a pissing match between two posters. Thanks.


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