umbluegray
Legend
Posts: 42,166
Joined: Nov 2003
Reputation: 2027
I Root For: The Tigers!
Location: Memphis
|
Pelosi says No to Impeachment
Newly empowered, House Democrats plan to launch immediate investigations of Trump, but leaders are wary of impeachment
Quote:House Democrats are prepared to open multiple investigations of President Trump when they take control in January but are wary of immediately pursuing impeachment — seeking to satisfy an energized base without alienating the voters they need in the next election.
Quote:“For those who want impeachment, that’s not what our caucus is about,” House Minority Leader Pelosi (D-Calif.) told PBS’s “NewsHour” on Tuesday before her party clinched the majority. She said she would not move to impeach Trump unless at least some Republicans were on board.
Pelosi added that she will wait to see the outcome of the special counsel investigation, but noted that a call for impeachment “would have to be bipartisan, and the evidence would have to be so conclusive.”
|
|
11-07-2018 10:54 AM |
|
Owl 69/70/75
Just an old rugby coach
Posts: 80,655
Joined: Sep 2005
Reputation: 3192
I Root For: RiceBathChelsea
Location: Montgomery, TX
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
(11-07-2018 10:54 AM)umbluegray Wrote: Newly empowered, House Democrats plan to launch immediate investigations of Trump, but leaders are wary of impeachment
Quote:House Democrats are prepared to open multiple investigations of President Trump when they take control in January but are wary of immediately pursuing impeachment — seeking to satisfy an energized base without alienating the voters they need in the next election.
Quote:“For those who want impeachment, that’s not what our caucus is about,” House Minority Leader Pelosi (D-Calif.) told PBS’s “NewsHour” on Tuesday before her party clinched the majority. She said she would not move to impeach Trump unless at least some Republicans were on board.
Pelosi added that she will wait to see the outcome of the special counsel investigation, but noted that a call for impeachment “would have to be bipartisan, and the evidence would have to be so conclusive.”
That tune will change.
|
|
11-07-2018 10:58 AM |
|
umbluegray
Legend
Posts: 42,166
Joined: Nov 2003
Reputation: 2027
I Root For: The Tigers!
Location: Memphis
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
(11-07-2018 10:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (11-07-2018 10:54 AM)umbluegray Wrote: Newly empowered, House Democrats plan to launch immediate investigations of Trump, but leaders are wary of impeachment
Quote:House Democrats are prepared to open multiple investigations of President Trump when they take control in January but are wary of immediately pursuing impeachment — seeking to satisfy an energized base without alienating the voters they need in the next election.
Quote:“For those who want impeachment, that’s not what our caucus is about,” House Minority Leader Pelosi (D-Calif.) told PBS’s “NewsHour” on Tuesday before her party clinched the majority. She said she would not move to impeach Trump unless at least some Republicans were on board.
Pelosi added that she will wait to see the outcome of the special counsel investigation, but noted that a call for impeachment “would have to be bipartisan, and the evidence would have to be so conclusive.”
That tune will change.
Oh, she's going to catch immediate flack from the radleft base.
But do the Dems really risk alienating moderates? Yeah, they probably will -- given that's their MO the past several years.
|
|
11-07-2018 11:01 AM |
|
Redwingtom
Progressive filth
Posts: 51,524
Joined: Dec 2003
Reputation: 971
I Root For: B-G-S-U !!!!
Location: Soros' Basement
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
(11-07-2018 10:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (11-07-2018 10:54 AM)umbluegray Wrote: Newly empowered, House Democrats plan to launch immediate investigations of Trump, but leaders are wary of impeachment
Quote:House Democrats are prepared to open multiple investigations of President Trump when they take control in January but are wary of immediately pursuing impeachment — seeking to satisfy an energized base without alienating the voters they need in the next election.
Quote:“For those who want impeachment, that’s not what our caucus is about,” House Minority Leader Pelosi (D-Calif.) told PBS’s “NewsHour” on Tuesday before her party clinched the majority. She said she would not move to impeach Trump unless at least some Republicans were on board.
Pelosi added that she will wait to see the outcome of the special counsel investigation, but noted that a call for impeachment “would have to be bipartisan, and the evidence would have to be so conclusive.”
That tune will change.
I don't think so. Not unless there is something way more substantial than what we've seen so far. Pelosi is a veteran political animal. She knows full well what impeachment threats do to presidents with their bases.
(This post was last modified: 11-07-2018 11:05 AM by Redwingtom.)
|
|
11-07-2018 11:04 AM |
|
Owl 69/70/75
Just an old rugby coach
Posts: 80,655
Joined: Sep 2005
Reputation: 3192
I Root For: RiceBathChelsea
Location: Montgomery, TX
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
(11-07-2018 11:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-07-2018 10:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (11-07-2018 10:54 AM)umbluegray Wrote: Newly empowered, House Democrats plan to launch immediate investigations of Trump, but leaders are wary of impeachment
Quote:House Democrats are prepared to open multiple investigations of President Trump when they take control in January but are wary of immediately pursuing impeachment — seeking to satisfy an energized base without alienating the voters they need in the next election.
Quote:“For those who want impeachment, that’s not what our caucus is about,” House Minority Leader Pelosi (D-Calif.) told PBS’s “NewsHour” on Tuesday before her party clinched the majority. She said she would not move to impeach Trump unless at least some Republicans were on board.
Pelosi added that she will wait to see the outcome of the special counsel investigation, but noted that a call for impeachment “would have to be bipartisan, and the evidence would have to be so conclusive.”
That tune will change.
I don't think so. Not unless there is something way more substantial than what we've seen so far. Pelosi is a veteran political animal. She knows full well what impeachment threats do to presidents with their bases.
I think the goal is impeachment, regardless of whether there is anything substantial. They simply want to pursue character assassination. At least that's what the radical wing of the democrats want. I don't know if Pelosi can hold them off or not. She clearly leads with more of an iron fist than anybody on the republican side, so maybe she can pull it off. I wish republicans had leaders like Schumer and Pelosi instead of wimps like McConnell and Ryan.
(This post was last modified: 11-07-2018 11:27 AM by Owl 69/70/75.)
|
|
11-07-2018 11:26 AM |
|
solohawks
Hall of Famer
Posts: 20,782
Joined: May 2008
Reputation: 810
I Root For: UNCW
Location: Wilmington, NC
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
Impeaching Trump would prove him right about everything he said.
No matter who the President is, impeachment better have a super majority in public opinion or else the President can play the victim and fire up his/her base
|
|
11-07-2018 11:29 AM |
|
BadgerMJ
All American
Posts: 3,025
Joined: Mar 2017
Reputation: 267
I Root For: Wisconsin / ND
Location: Wisconsin
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
(11-07-2018 10:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (11-07-2018 10:54 AM)umbluegray Wrote: Newly empowered, House Democrats plan to launch immediate investigations of Trump, but leaders are wary of impeachment
Quote:House Democrats are prepared to open multiple investigations of President Trump when they take control in January but are wary of immediately pursuing impeachment — seeking to satisfy an energized base without alienating the voters they need in the next election.
Quote:“For those who want impeachment, that’s not what our caucus is about,” House Minority Leader Pelosi (D-Calif.) told PBS’s “NewsHour” on Tuesday before her party clinched the majority. She said she would not move to impeach Trump unless at least some Republicans were on board.
Pelosi added that she will wait to see the outcome of the special counsel investigation, but noted that a call for impeachment “would have to be bipartisan, and the evidence would have to be so conclusive.”
That tune will change.
Sure will.
The minute the screeching snowflakes catch wind of this there will be hell to pay.
|
|
11-07-2018 11:29 AM |
|
gdunn
Repping E-Gang Colors
Posts: 30,241
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 2432
I Root For: Southern Miss
Location: In The Moment
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
Ok. Mueller said he'd release a report after Midterms. Come on Bobby Three Sticks let's see what ya got.
|
|
11-07-2018 11:48 AM |
|
Ohio Poly
1st String
Posts: 2,369
Joined: Nov 2015
Reputation: 8
I Root For: Ohio Poly
Location:
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
For the best election results in 2020, she should say no to being SOTH again. But I suppose she's a little too much like DJT for that.
|
|
11-07-2018 12:04 PM |
|
Redwingtom
Progressive filth
Posts: 51,524
Joined: Dec 2003
Reputation: 971
I Root For: B-G-S-U !!!!
Location: Soros' Basement
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
(11-07-2018 11:48 AM)gdunn Wrote: Ok. Mueller said he'd release a report after Midterms. Come on Bobby Three Sticks let's see what ya got.
He's got a little more time than just a day after...lol. And word is that an indictment of junior might be out real soon.
Baby steps.
|
|
11-07-2018 01:41 PM |
|
VA49er
Legend
Posts: 29,000
Joined: Dec 2004
Reputation: 952
I Root For: Charlotte
Location:
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
(11-07-2018 11:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-07-2018 10:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (11-07-2018 10:54 AM)umbluegray Wrote: Newly empowered, House Democrats plan to launch immediate investigations of Trump, but leaders are wary of impeachment
Quote:House Democrats are prepared to open multiple investigations of President Trump when they take control in January but are wary of immediately pursuing impeachment — seeking to satisfy an energized base without alienating the voters they need in the next election.
Quote:“For those who want impeachment, that’s not what our caucus is about,” House Minority Leader Pelosi (D-Calif.) told PBS’s “NewsHour” on Tuesday before her party clinched the majority. She said she would not move to impeach Trump unless at least some Republicans were on board.
Pelosi added that she will wait to see the outcome of the special counsel investigation, but noted that a call for impeachment “would have to be bipartisan, and the evidence would have to be so conclusive.”
That tune will change.
I don't think so. Not unless there is something way more substantial than what we've seen so far. Pelosi is a veteran political animal. She knows full well what impeachment threats do to presidents with their bases.
Although I think Pelosi is crazier than a soup sandwich, I tend to agree with the bold. IMO, the Dems need to focus on issues, not trying to impeach Trump. Show their base and independents they have some sort of plan, etc. If all they do is go after impeachment, it won't matter what their other plans may be as Trump supporters will be galvanized and will most definitely rally behind the president, etc.
|
|
11-07-2018 02:13 PM |
|
gdunn
Repping E-Gang Colors
Posts: 30,241
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 2432
I Root For: Southern Miss
Location: In The Moment
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
(11-07-2018 01:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-07-2018 11:48 AM)gdunn Wrote: Ok. Mueller said he'd release a report after Midterms. Come on Bobby Three Sticks let's see what ya got.
He's got a little more time than just a day after...lol. And word is that an indictment of junior might be out real soon.
Baby steps.
You gotta link about DTJ?
Also when a man says he's done but won't release until after an election should mean he has no issue releasing the next day.
(This post was last modified: 11-07-2018 02:16 PM by gdunn.)
|
|
11-07-2018 02:15 PM |
|
SoMs Eagle
Heisman
Posts: 8,998
Joined: Nov 2011
Reputation: 683
I Root For: Mighty Mustard
Location:
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
(11-07-2018 10:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (11-07-2018 10:54 AM)umbluegray Wrote: Newly empowered, House Democrats plan to launch immediate investigations of Trump, but leaders are wary of impeachment
Quote:House Democrats are prepared to open multiple investigations of President Trump when they take control in January but are wary of immediately pursuing impeachment — seeking to satisfy an energized base without alienating the voters they need in the next election.
Quote:“For those who want impeachment, that’s not what our caucus is about,” House Minority Leader Pelosi (D-Calif.) told PBS’s “NewsHour” on Tuesday before her party clinched the majority. She said she would not move to impeach Trump unless at least some Republicans were on board.
Pelosi added that she will wait to see the outcome of the special counsel investigation, but noted that a call for impeachment “would have to be bipartisan, and the evidence would have to be so conclusive.”
That tune will change.
If she wants to have a chance at speaker.
|
|
11-07-2018 02:19 PM |
|
200yrs2late
Resident Parrothead
Posts: 15,328
Joined: Jan 2010
Reputation: 767
I Root For: East Carolina
Location: SE of disorder
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
(11-07-2018 11:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-07-2018 10:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (11-07-2018 10:54 AM)umbluegray Wrote: Newly empowered, House Democrats plan to launch immediate investigations of Trump, but leaders are wary of impeachment
Quote:House Democrats are prepared to open multiple investigations of President Trump when they take control in January but are wary of immediately pursuing impeachment — seeking to satisfy an energized base without alienating the voters they need in the next election.
Quote:“For those who want impeachment, that’s not what our caucus is about,” House Minority Leader Pelosi (D-Calif.) told PBS’s “NewsHour” on Tuesday before her party clinched the majority. She said she would not move to impeach Trump unless at least some Republicans were on board.
Pelosi added that she will wait to see the outcome of the special counsel investigation, but noted that a call for impeachment “would have to be bipartisan, and the evidence would have to be so conclusive.”
That tune will change.
I don't think so. Not unless there is something way more substantial than what we've seen so far. Pelosi is a veteran political animal. She knows full well what impeachment threats do to presidents with their bases.
She probably already privy to enough information to know there's nothing in the Mueller investigation that would warrant impeachment. Even if there was something that they could point to to justify impeachment, she is seasoned enough to remember what happened to the R's when them impeached Clinton.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Mueller investigation very quietly and quickly wrap up now that it has served it's purpose and helped motivate the Dems to get the House back.
|
|
11-07-2018 02:21 PM |
|
Redwingtom
Progressive filth
Posts: 51,524
Joined: Dec 2003
Reputation: 971
I Root For: B-G-S-U !!!!
Location: Soros' Basement
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
(11-07-2018 02:21 PM)200yrs2late Wrote: (11-07-2018 11:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-07-2018 10:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (11-07-2018 10:54 AM)umbluegray Wrote: Newly empowered, House Democrats plan to launch immediate investigations of Trump, but leaders are wary of impeachment
Quote:House Democrats are prepared to open multiple investigations of President Trump when they take control in January but are wary of immediately pursuing impeachment — seeking to satisfy an energized base without alienating the voters they need in the next election.
Quote:“For those who want impeachment, that’s not what our caucus is about,” House Minority Leader Pelosi (D-Calif.) told PBS’s “NewsHour” on Tuesday before her party clinched the majority. She said she would not move to impeach Trump unless at least some Republicans were on board.
Pelosi added that she will wait to see the outcome of the special counsel investigation, but noted that a call for impeachment “would have to be bipartisan, and the evidence would have to be so conclusive.”
That tune will change.
I don't think so. Not unless there is something way more substantial than what we've seen so far. Pelosi is a veteran political animal. She knows full well what impeachment threats do to presidents with their bases.
She probably already privy to enough information to know there's nothing in the Mueller investigation that would warrant impeachment. Even if there was something that they could point to to justify impeachment, she is seasoned enough to remember what happened to the R's when them impeached Clinton.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Mueller investigation very quietly and quickly wrap up now that it has served it's purpose and helped motivate the Dems to get the House back.
Dude, you're dreaming. Mueller had little if anything to do with the house flipping. All you have to do is look at recent history. It almost without fail flips on the mid-term of a first term president.
|
|
11-07-2018 02:51 PM |
|
Redwingtom
Progressive filth
Posts: 51,524
Joined: Dec 2003
Reputation: 971
I Root For: B-G-S-U !!!!
Location: Soros' Basement
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
(11-07-2018 02:15 PM)gdunn Wrote: (11-07-2018 01:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-07-2018 11:48 AM)gdunn Wrote: Ok. Mueller said he'd release a report after Midterms. Come on Bobby Three Sticks let's see what ya got.
He's got a little more time than just a day after...lol. And word is that an indictment of junior might be out real soon.
Baby steps.
You gotta link about DTJ?
Also when a man says he's done but won't release until after an election should mean he has no issue releasing the next day.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/d...-soon.html
And where is your link where Mueller said he is done? The special counsel rarely if ever says anything publicly.
|
|
11-07-2018 02:54 PM |
|
VA49er
Legend
Posts: 29,000
Joined: Dec 2004
Reputation: 952
I Root For: Charlotte
Location:
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
(11-07-2018 02:51 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-07-2018 02:21 PM)200yrs2late Wrote: (11-07-2018 11:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-07-2018 10:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (11-07-2018 10:54 AM)umbluegray Wrote: Newly empowered, House Democrats plan to launch immediate investigations of Trump, but leaders are wary of impeachment
That tune will change.
I don't think so. Not unless there is something way more substantial than what we've seen so far. Pelosi is a veteran political animal. She knows full well what impeachment threats do to presidents with their bases.
She probably already privy to enough information to know there's nothing in the Mueller investigation that would warrant impeachment. Even if there was something that they could point to to justify impeachment, she is seasoned enough to remember what happened to the R's when them impeached Clinton.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Mueller investigation very quietly and quickly wrap up now that it has served it's purpose and helped motivate the Dems to get the House back.
Dude, you're dreaming. Mueller had little if anything to do with the house flipping. All you have to do is look at recent history. It almost without fail flips on the mid-term of a first term president.
Glad to see you realize the historical precedent for what occurred and that it didn't really have anything to do with Trump, per say. When I channeled surfed the MSM this morning I'd have thought a blue wave crashed ashore as a protest against the mean orange guy. lol
|
|
11-07-2018 02:55 PM |
|
Redwingtom
Progressive filth
Posts: 51,524
Joined: Dec 2003
Reputation: 971
I Root For: B-G-S-U !!!!
Location: Soros' Basement
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
(11-07-2018 02:55 PM)VA49er Wrote: (11-07-2018 02:51 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-07-2018 02:21 PM)200yrs2late Wrote: (11-07-2018 11:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-07-2018 10:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: That tune will change.
I don't think so. Not unless there is something way more substantial than what we've seen so far. Pelosi is a veteran political animal. She knows full well what impeachment threats do to presidents with their bases.
She probably already privy to enough information to know there's nothing in the Mueller investigation that would warrant impeachment. Even if there was something that they could point to to justify impeachment, she is seasoned enough to remember what happened to the R's when them impeached Clinton.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Mueller investigation very quietly and quickly wrap up now that it has served it's purpose and helped motivate the Dems to get the House back.
Dude, you're dreaming. Mueller had little if anything to do with the house flipping. All you have to do is look at recent history. It almost without fail flips on the mid-term of a first term president.
Glad to see you realize the historical precedent for what occurred and that it didn't really have anything to do with Trump, per say. When I channeled surfed the MSM this morning I'd have thought a blue wave crashed ashore as a protest against the mean orange guy. lol
Yes, but it's not exactly like trump helped matters much.
|
|
11-07-2018 02:56 PM |
|
Owl 69/70/75
Just an old rugby coach
Posts: 80,655
Joined: Sep 2005
Reputation: 3192
I Root For: RiceBathChelsea
Location: Montgomery, TX
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
(11-07-2018 02:56 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-07-2018 02:55 PM)VA49er Wrote: (11-07-2018 02:51 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-07-2018 02:21 PM)200yrs2late Wrote: (11-07-2018 11:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: I don't think so. Not unless there is something way more substantial than what we've seen so far. Pelosi is a veteran political animal. She knows full well what impeachment threats do to presidents with their bases.
She probably already privy to enough information to know there's nothing in the Mueller investigation that would warrant impeachment. Even if there was something that they could point to to justify impeachment, she is seasoned enough to remember what happened to the R's when them impeached Clinton.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Mueller investigation very quietly and quickly wrap up now that it has served it's purpose and helped motivate the Dems to get the House back.
Dude, you're dreaming. Mueller had little if anything to do with the house flipping. All you have to do is look at recent history. It almost without fail flips on the mid-term of a first term president.
Glad to see you realize the historical precedent for what occurred and that it didn't really have anything to do with Trump, per say. When I channeled surfed the MSM this morning I'd have thought a blue wave crashed ashore as a protest against the mean orange guy. lol
Yes, but it's not exactly like trump helped matters much.
Republicans picked up seats in the senate. That's pretty special.
|
|
11-07-2018 02:59 PM |
|
200yrs2late
Resident Parrothead
Posts: 15,328
Joined: Jan 2010
Reputation: 767
I Root For: East Carolina
Location: SE of disorder
|
RE: Pelosi says No to Impeachment
(11-07-2018 02:51 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-07-2018 02:21 PM)200yrs2late Wrote: (11-07-2018 11:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-07-2018 10:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (11-07-2018 10:54 AM)umbluegray Wrote: Newly empowered, House Democrats plan to launch immediate investigations of Trump, but leaders are wary of impeachment
That tune will change.
I don't think so. Not unless there is something way more substantial than what we've seen so far. Pelosi is a veteran political animal. She knows full well what impeachment threats do to presidents with their bases.
She probably already privy to enough information to know there's nothing in the Mueller investigation that would warrant impeachment. Even if there was something that they could point to to justify impeachment, she is seasoned enough to remember what happened to the R's when them impeached Clinton.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Mueller investigation very quietly and quickly wrap up now that it has served it's purpose and helped motivate the Dems to get the House back.
Dude, you're dreaming. Mueller had little if anything to do with the house flipping. All you have to do is look at recent history. It almost without fail flips on the mid-term of a first term president.
I didn't mean to imply that Mueller himself did. I meant it as the investigation was part of the motivation behind the democrat base.
|
|
11-07-2018 03:03 PM |
|