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2018-19 MBB RPI Thread
After the first game ODU is at 74.

C-USA as of 11/7

MTSU 30
WKU 32
ODU 74
Marshall 78
UAB 150
UTSA 184
NT 188
LT 192
Southern Miss 204
FAU 269
UTEP 289
FIU 290
Charlotte 321
Rice 322
11-07-2018 08:50 AM
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How about that WKU game? Up 11 at half-time @ Washington, but lose by 18. Outscored 47-19 in the 2nd half. Brutal.
11-07-2018 09:18 AM
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RE: 2018-19 MBB RPI Thread
(11-07-2018 09:18 AM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  How about that WKU game? Up 11 at half-time @ Washington, but lose by 18. Outscored 47-19 in the 2nd half. Brutal.

I caught enough of the second half to see a WKU team that could be damn good come conf time. But that Washington team looked reaaaaaaaaally good in that 2nd half to me. I don't know their team but at one point they all looked 7' tall and 8' wing spans the way they were playing zone.
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RE: 2018-19 MBB RPI Thread
RPI is now meaningless, but even less meaningful right now (MTSU-30 LOL)

Im not really sold on WKY just yet. That may change when Bearden and Murray come back. There is a lot of pressure on Hollingsworth to score.
11-07-2018 10:18 AM
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(11-07-2018 10:18 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  RPI is now meaningless, but even less meaningful right now (MTSU-30 LOL)

Im not really sold on WKY just yet. That may change when Bearden and Murray come back. There is a lot of pressure on Hollingsworth to score.

Thanks for stating the damn obvious! This is meant to track the RPI over the season.
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RE: 2018-19 MBB RPI Thread
Just an FYI, but these match what the final RPI was from last season
11-07-2018 10:24 AM
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(11-07-2018 10:24 AM)Punk Wrote:  Just an FYI, but these match what the final RPI was from last season

http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2019/rpi-live
11-07-2018 10:26 AM
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(11-07-2018 10:19 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(11-07-2018 10:18 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  RPI is now meaningless, but even less meaningful right now (MTSU-30 LOL)

Im not really sold on WKY just yet. That may change when Bearden and Murray come back. There is a lot of pressure on Hollingsworth to score.

Thanks for stating the damn obvious! This is meant to track the RPI over the season.

Just pointing out that the NCAA does not use RPI anymore (thank goodness) and it really doesn't provide meaningful analysis. Should have sat it more subtly, but I hate the metric.
11-07-2018 10:34 AM
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Not to be abrasive, but I agree with Giles that there is no longer a reason to track RPI. You do you, though. I just wouldn't waste my time. Maybe track ESPN BPI or kenpom instead?
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(11-07-2018 10:26 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(11-07-2018 10:24 AM)Punk Wrote:  Just an FYI, but these match what the final RPI was from last season

http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2019/rpi-live

Yeah, I was just letting you know that they haven't changed from April

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball...etball-rpi
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(11-07-2018 10:58 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Not to be abrasive, but I agree with Giles that there is no longer a reason to track RPI. You do you, though. I just wouldn't waste my time. Maybe track ESPN BPI or kenpom instead?

NCAA now uses the "NCAA Evaluation Tool", which I cant find anywhere and im not even sure they will publish the results. RPI may not be used in selecting tournament teams anymore but it was rarely used when they did have it as a metric for bubble teams because of P5 bias. Now its just a tool for fans to still see how their team stacks up in the college basketball landscape. Yes there are kenpom rankings and saragin rankings but they are all pretty much the same. I prefer the warren nolan rankings website.
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(11-07-2018 11:10 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(11-07-2018 10:58 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Not to be abrasive, but I agree with Giles that there is no longer a reason to track RPI. You do you, though. I just wouldn't waste my time. Maybe track ESPN BPI or kenpom instead?

NCAA now uses the "NCAA Evaluation Tool", which I cant find anywhere and im not even sure they will publish the results. RPI may not be used in selecting tournament teams anymore but it was rarely used when they did have it as a metric for bubble teams because of P5 bias. Now its just a tool for fans to still see how their team stacks up in the college basketball landscape. Yes there are kenpom rankings and saragin rankings but they are all pretty much the same. I prefer the warren nolan rankings website.


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11-08-2018 09:32 AM
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(11-08-2018 09:32 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(11-07-2018 11:10 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(11-07-2018 10:58 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Not to be abrasive, but I agree with Giles that there is no longer a reason to track RPI. You do you, though. I just wouldn't waste my time. Maybe track ESPN BPI or kenpom instead?

NCAA now uses the "NCAA Evaluation Tool", which I cant find anywhere and im not even sure they will publish the results. RPI may not be used in selecting tournament teams anymore but it was rarely used when they did have it as a metric for bubble teams because of P5 bias. Now its just a tool for fans to still see how their team stacks up in the college basketball landscape. Yes there are kenpom rankings and saragin rankings but they are all pretty much the same. I prefer the warren nolan rankings website.


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RE: 2018-19 MBB RPI Thread
I don't get how LT's RPI is 192 after whooping Wichita State's a$$.
11-08-2018 06:19 PM
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Kenpom today, right now we are top of the conference:

94 ODU
98 WKU
111 Marshall
129 La Tech
139 N Texas
147 USM

176 UAB
185 UTSA
205 MTSU
225 FIU
238 FAU
271 UTEP

300 Rice
301 Charlotte
12-03-2018 11:41 AM
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(11-08-2018 06:19 PM)N2theBlue Wrote:  I don't get how LT's RPI is 192 after whooping Wichita State's a$$.

Because Kenpom this early in the season relies on last year's results for their formula and LT sucked last year. All these metrics are useless for at least another month.
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RE: 2018-19 MBB RPI Thread
The effect of preseason weighting slowly decreases as the year goes along. Preseason weighting is included because it makes the analysis less volatile and more accurate.

FWIW, LT is now 129.
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Kenpom moved up to 86 with the win over W&M. Still best in conference for now
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Warren Nolan has us at 157 and VCU at 46. I dont get it. The just beat Texas on the road by 1 but that shouldnt matter that much. The gap should be closer.
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