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There is a good point to be made about Villanova sticking by Jay Wright while he lost in the first weekend as a 1 or 2 seed year after year prior to the titles. You keep putting together top 5 to 10 type teams you will break through. It's why we need more sessions like last year.
 
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(11-16-2018 09:27 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  There is a good point to be made about Villanova sticking by Jay Wright while he lost in the first weekend as a 1 or 2 seed year after year prior to the titles. You keep putting together top 5 to 10 type teams you will break through. It's why we need more sessions like last year.

I think next is a key season. This is year is almost a see what we got year, find our best players so next year can be real contender.
 
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UConn will be tough both times we play them. They feed off Hurley's energy. I can't stand the guy but he's getting the most out of those guys right now.
 
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(11-16-2018 09:27 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  There is a good point to be made about Villanova sticking by Jay Wright while he lost in the first weekend as a 1 or 2 seed year after year prior to the titles. You keep putting together top 5 to 10 type teams you will break through. It's why we need more sessions like last year.

He built his cred prior to his first title by going to the Sweet 16 four times and the Elite Eight twice. Also won arguably the toughest conference in the land in his 5th year (2006). So I wouldn't necessarily say they "stuck by him".
 
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(11-16-2018 09:53 AM)Cin_City Wrote:  UConn will be tough both times we play them. They feed off Hurley's energy. I can't stand the guy but he's getting the most out of those guys right now.

UConn and Houston are the leagues favorites right now. Temple is a contender too. UC needs to get a lot better but it is only November.
 
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(11-16-2018 09:50 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  
(11-16-2018 09:27 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  There is a good point to be made about Villanova sticking by Jay Wright while he lost in the first weekend as a 1 or 2 seed year after year prior to the titles. You keep putting together top 5 to 10 type teams you will break through. It's why we need more sessions like last year.

I think next is a key season. This is year is almost a see what we got year, find our best players so next year can be real contender.
I agree with both here although my expectations for next year are going to depend on what type of team we end up being this year. If we don't make the tournament I don't see us being a protected seed type team next year (the type you expect to play second weekend games). If we can be a 7-10 type seed I was expecting coming into the year then I would have high expectations for next season.
 
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(11-16-2018 09:50 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  
(11-16-2018 09:27 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  There is a good point to be made about Villanova sticking by Jay Wright while he lost in the first weekend as a 1 or 2 seed year after year prior to the titles. You keep putting together top 5 to 10 type teams you will break through. It's why we need more sessions like last year.

I think next is a key season. This is year is almost a see what we got year, find our best players so next year can be real contender.
I agree with both here although my expectations for next year are going to depend on what type of team we end up being this year. If we don't make the tournament I don't see us being a protected seed type team next year (the type you expect to play second weekend games). If we can be a 7-10 type seed I was expecting coming into the year then I would have high expectations for next season.

It’s really shouldn’t be about making the tournament this year. Success this season will be measured by how Williams, Johnson, Scott, Brooks, Fredricks, and Moore improve over the season. If the gets UC an NCAA bid great, a deep NIT run is still ok but anything less than NIT would very concerning especially if Cumberland is the only all league level player.
 
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(11-16-2018 10:41 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  
(11-16-2018 10:05 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  
(11-16-2018 09:50 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  
(11-16-2018 09:27 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  There is a good point to be made about Villanova sticking by Jay Wright while he lost in the first weekend as a 1 or 2 seed year after year prior to the titles. You keep putting together top 5 to 10 type teams you will break through. It's why we need more sessions like last year.

I think next is a key season. This is year is almost a see what we got year, find our best players so next year can be real contender.
I agree with both here although my expectations for next year are going to depend on what type of team we end up being this year. If we don't make the tournament I don't see us being a protected seed type team next year (the type you expect to play second weekend games). If we can be a 7-10 type seed I was expecting coming into the year then I would have high expectations for next season.

It’s really shouldn’t be about making the tournament this year. Success this season will be measured by how Williams, Johnson, Scott, Brooks, Fredricks, and Moore improve over the season. If the gets UC an NCAA bid great, a deep NIT run is still ok but anything less than NIT would very concerning especially if Cumberland is the only all league level player.

...and as excellent as Cumberland can be, I think we're still looking for that SK kind of consistency from him night in and night out. Without that, this year's team may ride the roller coaster each night.
 
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(11-16-2018 09:27 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  There is a good point to be made about Villanova sticking by Jay Wright while he lost in the first weekend as a 1 or 2 seed year after year prior to the titles. You keep putting together top 5 to 10 type teams you will break through. It's why we need more sessions like last year.
Mark Few's path with Gonzaga is similar as well.
 
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(11-16-2018 09:53 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  
(11-16-2018 09:27 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  There is a good point to be made about Villanova sticking by Jay Wright while he lost in the first weekend as a 1 or 2 seed year after year prior to the titles. You keep putting together top 5 to 10 type teams you will break through. It's why we need more sessions like last year.

He built his cred prior to his first title by going to the Sweet 16 four times and the Elite Eight twice. Also won arguably the toughest conference in the land in his 5th year (2006). So I wouldn't necessarily say they "stuck by him".

I don't disagree...but remember people wanted to run Huggs after winning conference titles almost every season and having 1 final four, 3 elite eights in his first 7 years because of early tournament losses. Huggs kept putting together top 5-10 teams much like Wright and like Wright I'm convinced had Huggs stuck around UC would have broken through.

My general point is don't just look at tournament success. You want to see teams that can compete at the highest level. You have those kind of teams year after year you will break through. UC had one of those teams last year. Need more of them.
 
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(11-16-2018 05:08 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(11-16-2018 09:53 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  
(11-16-2018 09:27 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  There is a good point to be made about Villanova sticking by Jay Wright while he lost in the first weekend as a 1 or 2 seed year after year prior to the titles. You keep putting together top 5 to 10 type teams you will break through. It's why we need more sessions like last year.

He built his cred prior to his first title by going to the Sweet 16 four times and the Elite Eight twice. Also won arguably the toughest conference in the land in his 5th year (2006). So I wouldn't necessarily say they "stuck by him".

I don't disagree...but remember people wanted to run Huggs after winning conference titles almost every season and having 1 final four, 3 elite eights in his first 7 years because of early tournament losses. Huggs kept putting together top 5-10 teams much like Wright and like Wright I'm convinced had Huggs stuck around UC would have broken through.

My general point is don't just look at tournament success. You want to see teams that can compete at the highest level. You have those kind of teams year after year you will break through. UC had one of those teams last year. Need more of them.

I agree with that we need more of the last two years which is why I can’t understand UC’s recruiting this spring. How the heck do not grab a grad transfer for front court or on wing. Fredricks isn’t an instant impact guy. It looks like two newcomers are redshirting. What i am saying is that even if Evans returned this roster needed help. Without him it looks like a mess unless Broome and Fredericks start to produce.
 
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(11-16-2018 10:41 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  
(11-16-2018 10:05 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  
(11-16-2018 09:50 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  
(11-16-2018 09:27 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  There is a good point to be made about Villanova sticking by Jay Wright while he lost in the first weekend as a 1 or 2 seed year after year prior to the titles. You keep putting together top 5 to 10 type teams you will break through. It's why we need more sessions like last year.

I think next is a key season. This is year is almost a see what we got year, find our best players so next year can be real contender.
I agree with both here although my expectations for next year are going to depend on what type of team we end up being this year. If we don't make the tournament I don't see us being a protected seed type team next year (the type you expect to play second weekend games). If we can be a 7-10 type seed I was expecting coming into the year then I would have high expectations for next season.

It’s really shouldn’t be about making the tournament this year. Success this season will be measured by how Williams, Johnson, Scott, Brooks, Fredricks, and Moore improve over the season. If the gets UC an NCAA bid great, a deep NIT run is still ok but anything less than NIT would very concerning especially if Cumberland is the only all league level player.

This is a CBI team right now. I thought the admin had set an NCAA participation award as the goal? Now the goal is deep NIT runs?
 
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Memphis about to go down to Yale
Lipscomb beats SMU

AAC looking like a JV conference at the moment.
 
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(11-17-2018 10:05 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Memphis about to go down to Yale
Lipscomb beats SMU

AAC looking like a JV conference at the moment.

yup

like I said

AAC is mid major...2 bids this year, maybe
 
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(11-17-2018 10:05 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Memphis about to go down to Yale
Lipscomb beats SMU

AAC looking like a JV conference at the moment.

Memphis ended up sneaking past Yale in the 2nd OT.
 
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I see no one has mentioned UConn getting blasted last night at the hands of Iowa. I was really looking forward to the continued comparisons between the 06 Bearcats and 18 Huskies.
 
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Villanova lost to Furman tonight. Second L in a row. Time to fire Jay Wright I guess.
 
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(11-17-2018 11:04 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  Villanova lost to Furman tonight. Second L in a row. Time to fire Jay Wright I guess.
Not you, too, Jackie!
 
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(11-17-2018 11:04 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  Villanova lost to Furman tonight. Second L in a row. Time to fire Jay Wright I guess.
Not you, too, Jackie!

Hey, it's a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately World now.
 
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(11-17-2018 11:09 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  
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(11-17-2018 11:04 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  Villanova lost to Furman tonight. Second L in a row. Time to fire Jay Wright I guess.
Not you, too, Jackie!

Hey, it's a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately World now.

Ok...I know you're being facetious here but stop trying to compare a guy who has won two NCs in the last three years who is having a bad start to the year with a guy who cant get out of the first weekend not adjusting at all and struggling against any team with a pulse. If you're going to this, at least pick a better example than that...
 
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