(11-04-2018 02:48 PM)pesik Wrote:  Tulsa- I'm starting to buy into them, as not a 9th place team.. I here the juco they just added are balling out, and some of their players from last season have made big strides..but they lost to la tech in a scrimmage so lets not take it too far. but for the 700th season in row, Tulsa finishes higher than projected

Wrong.

Maybe stick to breaking down Houston and just picking the rest?

1. Houston
2. Cincy
3. UCONN
4. Memphis
5. UCF
6. WSU
7. Temple
8. SMU
9. Tulsa
10. ECU
11. USF
12. Tulane

(11-04-2018 05:24 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-04-2018 02:48 PM)pesik Wrote:  Tulsa- I'm starting to buy into them, as not a 9th place team.. I here the juco they just added are balling out, and some of their players from last season have made big strides..but they lost to la tech in a scrimmage so lets not take it too far. but for the 700th season in row, Tulsa finishes higher than projected

Wrong.

Maybe stick to breaking down Houston and just picking the rest?

I misread the details of the scrimmage..Posted on a site, posting information on who won or lost..
and I gave Tulsa credit calm down

And that line wasn't even a break down

I have no clue. No sure things anywhere. Everybody has question marks.

(11-04-2018 05:45 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-04-2018 05:24 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-04-2018 02:48 PM)pesik Wrote:  Tulsa- I'm starting to buy into them, as not a 9th place team.. I here the juco they just added are balling out, and some of their players from last season have made big strides..but they lost to la tech in a scrimmage so lets not take it too far. but for the 700th season in row, Tulsa finishes higher than projected

Wrong.

Maybe stick to breaking down Houston and just picking the rest?

I misread the details of the scrimmage..Posted on a site, posting information on who won or lost..
and I gave Tulsa credit calm down

And that line wasn't even a break down

Let's not argue about whether or not this team "lost in a scrimmage to La Tech so let's not take it to far" is a break down or not. Even a blind man feels the mountains shadow when the sun goes down behind it.

How about we have an entire thread of you doing similar things? So instead of encouraging me to settle down about it you just quit doing it?

I like your takes on Houston, while they're not always right they are informed and insightful. Stick to that.

(11-05-2018 01:54 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-04-2018 05:45 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-04-2018 05:24 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-04-2018 02:48 PM)pesik Wrote:  Tulsa- I'm starting to buy into them, as not a 9th place team.. I here the juco they just added are balling out, and some of their players from last season have made big strides..but they lost to la tech in a scrimmage so lets not take it too far. but for the 700th season in row, Tulsa finishes higher than projected

Wrong.

Maybe stick to breaking down Houston and just picking the rest?

I misread the details of the scrimmage..Posted on a site, posting information on who won or lost..
and I gave Tulsa credit calm down

And that line wasn't even a break down

Let's not argue about whether or not this team "lost in a scrimmage to La Tech so let's not take it to far" is a break down or not. Even a blind man feels the mountains shadow when the sun goes down behind it.

How about we have an entire thread of you doing similar things? So instead of encouraging me to settle down about it you just quit doing it?

I like your takes on Houston, while they're not always right they are informed and insightful. Stick to that.

i don't question your posts, why do you feel the need to question mine??

im sorry im actually talking about sports instead of endlessly bickering with Memphis and Wichita fans like you do

so to answer your very bad request... I will forever comment on other teams i follow and unfortunately for you that is everyone in the aac

im literally the only one here who trys to gain insight on all teams in the aac and create conversations about sports...but in the mountains of trolling your objective is to try and stop me posting????

my take on tulsa- theyll be alot better than projected, ive heard their new juco are really good, and players from last year improved a ton...that was my take...

that is the break down i gave, and what you have issue with???

(11-04-2018 02:48 PM)pesik Wrote:  ecu- extremely little is known about ecu, they've only had 1 scrimmage and it was closed vs nc state..reports are that it was a blowout early but ecu made it look respectable in the end. nc state is respectable so that is meaningless is judging a rebuilding bad team.... i think ecu will be horrible because the way Dooley talks about ecu in interviews is that of a coach who thinks his team will be horrible and making the best of it.

I've heard we beat Wake Forest by 10 on 10/27, cannot confirm that though.

Tulsa looked good in their exhibition. (Pretty much the same as UConn and Memphis did)

The thing I will say about Tulsa this season is that it looks like our scoring load is going to be very balanced. It doesn't look like we'll have a star player that's going to average 15+ ppg but there seems to be 8-10 guys that could easily average around 10 ppg. The best players on our team are swiss army knives like Daquan Jeffries and Sterling Taplin who do a variety of things well other than scoring (assists and game management for Taplin, and efficiency and defense for Jeffries).

I'm intrigued by what came out of our exhibition. Our JUCO's all seemed like they would be valuable contributors with the one guy who everyone saw as an afterthought in the class (Simon Falokoun - Sophomore Forward) actually being the second leading scorer. We also saw what seemed to be development from two of our returning shooting guards. The one who started the game (Jackson) provided a ton of energy on defense and was instant offense turning rebounds into fastbreaks. The other guy (Scott) led us in scoring off the bench. Getting the SG and SF rotations going as far as contributions is going to be key for us. We have the players there to make shots and influence games now it just comes down to execution for Jackson, Scott, Moore, and Barnes. Jackson was an especially pleasant surprise since he saw little playtime last season.

(11-05-2018 03:13 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 01:54 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-04-2018 05:45 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-04-2018 05:24 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-04-2018 02:48 PM)pesik Wrote:  Tulsa- I'm starting to buy into them, as not a 9th place team.. I here the juco they just added are balling out, and some of their players from last season have made big strides..but they lost to la tech in a scrimmage so lets not take it too far. but for the 700th season in row, Tulsa finishes higher than projected

Wrong.

Maybe stick to breaking down Houston and just picking the rest?

I misread the details of the scrimmage..Posted on a site, posting information on who won or lost..
and I gave Tulsa credit calm down

And that line wasn't even a break down

Let's not argue about whether or not this team "lost in a scrimmage to La Tech so let's not take it to far" is a break down or not. Even a blind man feels the mountains shadow when the sun goes down behind it.

How about we have an entire thread of you doing similar things? So instead of encouraging me to settle down about it you just quit doing it?

I like your takes on Houston, while they're not always right they are informed and insightful. Stick to that.

i don't question your posts, why do you feel the need to question mine??

im sorry im actually talking about sports instead of endlessly bickering with Memphis and Wichita fans like you do

so to answer your very bad request... I will forever comment on other teams i follow and unfortunately for you that is everyone in the aac

im literally the only one here who trys to gain insight on all teams in the aac and create conversations about sports...but in the mountains of trolling your objective is to try and stop me posting????

my take on tulsa- theyll be alot better than projected, ive heard their new juco are really good, and players from last year improved a ton...that was my take...

that is the break down i gave, and what you have issue with???

You should crawl down from that cross before you fall off and hurt yourself.

I don't question your posts, I call out for your stuff you post that is just wrong. Of course it's not just me as a large part of the basketball news thread is you getting told you're wrong.

I'll let Wichita and Memphis fans defend themselves but I put up all kinds of info and discussions that aren't bickering. If you're going to "follow" teams and comment at least pay attention. You are literally far from the only one who tries to gain insight for all the teams and almost every discussion on this board is about sports.

I'm not even trolling you pesik, go look at the end of the news thread. That's me trolling you. This is me pointing out you being repeatedly factually wrong about other teams. I also never asked you to stop posting, I asked you to quit putting up wrong information about other teams. Then complimented you about your Houston stuff and recommended you stick to that. You know so we wouldn't have 10 posts in threads about you being wrong.

Mountains of trolling, what is this Tolkien? Did I join a fellowship and am now on a quest to bring down the forever blind eye of Pesik dark lord of csnbbs?

My problem with your Tulsa breakdown was it was factually incorrect. Did your 'blind eye' miss the part I highlighted in red, said was wrong, and then called you out for saying it wasn't part of your Tulsa breakdown?

Just stay vaguely general for the other teams and give us the good info you know about Houston . .

(11-05-2018 06:03 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Tulsa looked good in their exhibition. (Pretty much the same as UConn and Memphis did)

The thing I will say about Tulsa this season is that it looks like our scoring load is going to be very balanced. It doesn't look like we'll have a star player that's going to average 15+ ppg but there seems to be 8-10 guys that could easily average around 10 ppg. The best players on our team are swiss army knives like Daquan Jeffries and Sterling Taplin who do a variety of things well other than scoring (assists and game management for Taplin, and efficiency and defense for Jeffries).

I'm intrigued by what came out of our exhibition. Our JUCO's all seemed like they would be valuable contributors with the one guy who everyone saw as an afterthought in the class (Simon Falokoun - Sophomore Forward) actually being the second leading scorer. We also saw what seemed to be development from two of our returning shooting guards. The one who started the game (Jackson) provided a ton of energy on defense and was instant offense turning rebounds into fastbreaks. The other guy (Scott) led us in scoring off the bench. Getting the SG and SF rotations going as far as contributions is going to be key for us. We have the players there to make shots and influence games now it just comes down to execution for Jackson, Scott, Moore, and Barnes. Jackson was an especially pleasant surprise since he saw little playtime last season.

Good break down. I think it looks like this based on returning players and expectations.

UCF (need to stay healthy)
Cincy (It's Cincinatti, be ready for a rock fight)
Houston (lost some but look ready to maintain or improve)


Memphis (return most of a 5th place team, good signs)
UConn (have the talent, but can they get it done)
Temple (see UConn and can they win down the stretch?)
Tulsa (fourth place last year, return a lot, lots of noobs)
SMU (lost some, looked good before last year's injuries)
Wichita (it's all new shockers, same Marshall. It's like the bears with Ditka)





Tulane (still in building mode)
ECU (need a year)
USF (ground floor headed up)


The order of each group is up for grabs. I expect one of the top to fall back to the middle and a couple middle teams to outperform and rise to the top. The three at the bottom continue (Tulane & USF) or begin to improve (ECU). They will probably muck up some middle teams though. UConn shows signs it is on the way back. We end up with a lot of chaos.

Cincy plays Ohio State, Xavier, UCLA and Mississippi State in the first five weeks of the season. I predict we will go 2-2 in those four games, which means we'll be just fine in the AAC and likely in the top echelon once again. You can never overlook Cincy as there is a toughness and history to this program that cannot be discounted. You don't go to 8 NCAA tournaments in a row by accident.

(11-05-2018 11:30 AM)vabearcat Wrote:  Cincy plays Ohio State, Xavier, UCLA and Mississippi State in the first five weeks of the season. I predict we will go 2-2 in those four games, which means we'll be just fine in the AAC and likely in the top echelon once again. You can never overlook Cincy as there is a toughness and history to this program that cannot be discounted. You don't go to 8 NCAA tournaments in a row by accident.

That's a tough start, but several chances to make noise. I really think you could get 3 of 4. None of those look to be overwhelming teams so I expect you to be competitive with chances to win.

(11-05-2018 10:54 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  You should crawl down from that cross before you fall off and hurt yourself.

I don't question your posts, I call out for your stuff you post that is just wrong. Of course it's not just me as a large part of the basketball news thread is you getting told you're wrong.

I'll let Wichita and Memphis fans defend themselves but I put up all kinds of info and discussions that aren't bickering. If you're going to "follow" teams and comment at least pay attention. You are literally far from the only one who tries to gain insight for all the teams and almost every discussion on this board is about sports.

I'm not even trolling you pesik, go look at the end of the news thread. That's me trolling you. This is me pointing out you being repeatedly factually wrong about other teams. I also never asked you to stop posting, I asked you to quit putting up wrong information about other teams. Then complimented you about your Houston stuff and recommended you stick to that. You know so we wouldn't have 10 posts in threads about you being wrong.

Mountains of trolling, what is this Tolkien? Did I join a fellowship and am now on a quest to bring down the forever blind eye of Pesik dark lord of csnbbs?

My problem with your Tulsa breakdown was it was factually incorrect. Did your 'blind eye' miss the part I highlighted in red, said was wrong, and then called you out for saying it wasn't part of your Tulsa breakdown?

Just stay vaguely general for the other teams and give us the good info you know about Houston . .

ive been making projections about every team in the aac for years ...i have rarely been flat wrong about anything

here is a correction- people dont like my preseason projections, so they call it out as being wrong before the games even start

i dont think ive been flat wrong on any projection to date..
the closest thing was me saying I thought UConn would keep it within 33 of Boise... ucf had an elite defense last year, game 1 UConn shredded ucf. I made the assumption that UConn's offense was legit when the reality was ucfs defense regressed badly...(i was still 7-1 in that thread)

remember when I had a long debate with Memphis fans in the football offseason that their offense with the new QB would regress..and tons of Memphis fans attacked me for being wrong???
oh right their offense regressed with the new qb...

here the thing, preseason everyone thinks they are going to be elite..everyone in the aac " my team is top 6" and they attack anyone who says otherwise .. guess what, reality doesn't work like that... somebody has to be 7-12

you can't say something is wrong if the results aren't out yet..

ps if i misstate a result, just comment that, I normally fix it right away.. it's not like there is an open source database for secret scrimmages ..instead of telling me to stop posting

I dont know enough about everyone elses team. For Memphis I suspect something like this:

TN Tech-------W
@LSU---------L
Yale-----------W
OSU(N)-------W
Villanova(N)--L
FSU(N)--------L
Tex Tech(N)---L
SDSU----------W
UAB-----------W
UT-------------L
UALR----------W
TN St----------W
FAMU----------W
Wich St--------W
@Houston-----L
ECU------------W
@Tulane-------W
SMU------------W
@Temple-------L
UCF------------W
@Tulsa---------W
@USF----------W
Cincy-----------L
UCONN---------W
@ECU----------W
@UCF----------L
Tulane----------W
@WSU----------L
Temple---------W
@Cincy---------L
Tulsa-----------W


20-11(12-6) NIT Start slow with the Freshman growing into the season.