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(11-05-2018 01:47 PM)Steven Herce Wrote:  You are focusing on the logistics, which isn't my point.

I have never seen a festival unrelated to Rice directly outside the stadium/arena on my way into any other on-campus sporting event in the last 20 years. Rice chose Homecoming Saturday? The festival couldn't have been on Sunday or some Saturday when there wasn't a home football game? Or, maybe just not on Homecoming Saturday?

To be clear: this isn't something that will drive me away forever or even temporarily but I don't think it sends a good message to alumni on Homecoming weekend.

(The fact that this happened at Homecoming is central to my beef.)

Understood - lets leave logistics out of it. While you are right that we have never seen an unrelated festival next door, how many other places have you seen a majority empty stadium on homecoming?

The issue is, Rice isn't able to attract fans. HRS is filled with Parents of players , former athletes, fans from the SWC era, some community members and a handful of people like me who are relatively young alums with no affiliation to the program. That isn't enough for a successful program. Rice cannot do what everyone else does - we have tried this for decades and it fails. So whats left? We need to find ways to market the program to outsiders. No different than one of the many promos Rice has done in MBB. Kids day - one could remark that only at Rice do we need kids to fill an arena; maybe true, but its better than an empty stadium.

This is just my opinion. I'd rather throw a hail mary and hope than sit around and do nothing. Because the latter is what we have done till date, and its resulted in this mess.

(11-05-2018 01:58 PM)AnotherOldOwl Wrote:  Exactly. Not only do I believe having the festival was a poor decision, it was very poorly implemented - no advance warning to people coming to the game, incompetent traffic control, etc.

To me, the latter is a much bigger deal. This could have been sold as "welcome to Houston. Embrace Texas hospitality in the most diverse city in America"
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11-05-2018 02:02 PM
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What would you do instead? I guess thats my view of it.
11-05-2018 02:10 PM
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I would describe simultaneous scheduling as Mickey Mouse but that would be an insult to the Walt Disney company, who understands marketing and how to exploit IP particularly in the post Eisner era
11-05-2018 03:09 PM
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I have a problem with it on Homecoming Saturday. Period.

I think an effort to fill the stadium with any group of people is a terrific idea. I am willing to be corrected but I do not believe this was done in that vein. I think the festival helped fill the parking lot rather than the stadium. I did not tour the stadium but if I walked by 200 people at the game 195 of them were wearing some form of Rice gear, which makes me doubt they came for the festival and decided to check out the game (however it sounds like more than one person came for the game and decided to check out the festival).
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(11-05-2018 03:23 PM)Steven Herce Wrote:  I have a problem with it on Homecoming Saturday. Period.

I think an effort to fill the stadium with any group of people is a terrific idea. I am willing to be corrected but I do not believe this was done in that vein. I think the festival helped fill the parking lot rather than the stadium. I did not tour the stadium but if I walked by 200 people at the game 195 of them were wearing some form of Rice gear, which makes me doubt they came for the festival and decided to check out the game (however it sounds like more than one person came for the game and decided to check out the festival).

I also have a problem with it on Homecoming. Period.
And, no one was going to randomly leave the festival to come over to Rice to pay $20 a person to see a game they had no idea was occurring.

It didn't generate any interest in Rice football, nor was it going to even if properly integrated. It was just plain disrespectful and reflects poorly on Rice and Rice Athletics. I had some non-Rice friends with me at the game who thought it was part of homecoming, only for me to have to tell them no, we schedule street festivals simultaneously with our Homecoming. Let's just say they did not leave with a positive impression nor are they likely to come back.
11-05-2018 04:35 PM
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What is the process whereby this kind of thing is allowed to happen?
11-05-2018 04:41 PM
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(11-05-2018 04:41 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  What is the process whereby this kind of thing is allowed to happen?

Best guess is it’s along the lines of Rice parking which has no affiliation or communication with Rice athletics decided they could make more money from that than football parking (since athletics has to pay parking for games).

Tailgates had a decent turnout. Don’t think anyone out of the 100+ I talked to were going into the game. They all know we’re terrible and they can go watch a decent game on tv if they even like football.
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Schedule it for a day that we did not have a home football game.

(11-05-2018 02:10 PM)Antarius Wrote:  What would you do instead? I guess thats my view of it.
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(11-06-2018 07:46 PM)75src Wrote:  Schedule it for a day that we did not have a home football game.

(11-05-2018 02:10 PM)Antarius Wrote:  What would you do instead? I guess thats my view of it.

When do we select homecoming? It was most likely scheduled before our conference schedule even came out. And by that I mean I know it was scheduled a long time ago and I have no issue trying to get more people onto campus.

Rice has 0 community involvement. I always like when we bring people in to fill up Tudor because our alumni community certainly doesn’t. Maybe if we win more they’ll become Rice fans.
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(11-07-2018 12:23 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  When do we select homecoming? It was most likely scheduled before our conference schedule even came out.

That isn't possible: Homecoming cannot be scheduled until the football schedule is known. And I know from personal experience in planning some reunions that the date is selected shortly after the schedule is known.

Here some of the factors that go into selecting a Homecoming date:
- Home football game (duh!)
- October or November
- Not midterm break
- Not Thanksgiving weekend
- Preferably not the weekend before Thanksgiving

Besides Homecoming, there is also Families Weekend, which needs to be a home football game in late September or October and not midterm break.

Of Rice's (typically) six home games, it is almost inevitable that at least two are before October, and at least one falls on one of the weekends near Thanksgiving. So in any given year, there are only a few logical choices -- usually only one -- for the Homecoming date.

In 2018, for example, there were only three home games between Labor Day and the weekend before Thanksgiving:
- UTSA on 10/06
- UAB on 10/13
- UTEP on 11/03.
But 10/06 was during midterm break. So Families Weekend had to be 10/13, and Homecoming had to be 11/03 -- no other reasonable choices.
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(11-07-2018 08:38 AM)georgewebb Wrote:  
(11-07-2018 12:23 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  When do we select homecoming? It was most likely scheduled before our conference schedule even came out.

That isn't possible: Homecoming cannot be scheduled until the football schedule is known. And I know from personal experience in planning some reunions that the date is selected shortly after the schedule is known.

Here some of the factors that go into selecting a Homecoming date:
- Home football game (duh!)
- October or November
- Not midterm break
- Not Thanksgiving weekend
- Preferably not the weekend before Thanksgiving

Besides Homecoming, there is also Families Weekend, which needs to be a home football game in late September or October and not midterm break.

Of Rice's (typically) six home games, it is almost inevitable that at least two are before October, and at least one falls on one of the weekends near Thanksgiving. So in any given year, there are only a few logical choices -- usually only one -- for the Homecoming date.

In 2018, for example, there were only three home games between Labor Day and the weekend before Thanksgiving:
- UTSA on 10/06
- UAB on 10/13
- UTEP on 11/03.
But 10/06 was during midterm break. So Families Weekend had to be 10/13, and Homecoming had to be 11/03 -- no other reasonable choices.

Poor context. I meant the festival was scheduled way before homecoming or our football schedule.
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(11-07-2018 09:09 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(11-07-2018 08:38 AM)georgewebb Wrote:  
(11-07-2018 12:23 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  When do we select homecoming? It was most likely scheduled before our conference schedule even came out.

That isn't possible: Homecoming cannot be scheduled until the football schedule is known. And I know from personal experience in planning some reunions that the date is selected shortly after the schedule is known.

Here some of the factors that go into selecting a Homecoming date:
- Home football game (duh!)
- October or November
- Not midterm break
- Not Thanksgiving weekend
- Preferably not the weekend before Thanksgiving

Besides Homecoming, there is also Families Weekend, which needs to be a home football game in late September or October and not midterm break.

Of Rice's (typically) six home games, it is almost inevitable that at least two are before October, and at least one falls on one of the weekends near Thanksgiving. So in any given year, there are only a few logical choices -- usually only one -- for the Homecoming date.

In 2018, for example, there were only three home games between Labor Day and the weekend before Thanksgiving:
- UTSA on 10/06
- UAB on 10/13
- UTEP on 11/03.
But 10/06 was during midterm break. So Families Weekend had to be 10/13, and Homecoming had to be 11/03 -- no other reasonable choices.

Poor context. I meant the festival was scheduled way before homecoming or our football schedule.

Ahh ... your antecedent for "It" was not homecoming, but the festival.
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