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(11-11-2018 12:38 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Hard to win when you can't cheat.

I don't think CLF would go to Purdue. He's too smart for that. I can't see him choosing to be on the losing end of OSU, UM, PSU every year. He doesn't put me in the mind of one of those coaches who has a big ego and thinks he could build Purdue into a perennial B10 power.

I'm pretty much done trying to rationalize why coaches should stay at UC when they get bigger offers. If they offer him enough, he'd go to Purdue. Also, last time I checked, Purdue beat the crap out of tO$U this season.

(11-11-2018 12:45 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 12:38 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Hard to win when you can't cheat.

I don't think CLF would go to Purdue. He's too smart for that. I can't see him choosing to be on the losing end of OSU, UM, PSU every year. He doesn't put me in the mind of one of those coaches who has a big ego and thinks he could build Purdue into a perennial B10 power.

I'm pretty much done trying to rationalize why coaches should stay at UC when they get bigger offers. If they offer him enough, he'd go to Purdue. Also, last time I checked, Purdue beat the crap out of tO$U this season.

Yeah... But...

Fickell following Brohm would have to basically start over. In my mind, they are two, radically different coaches with different styles and cultures. Brohm's "guys" fit "Brohm's System." I'm not saying Fickell couldn't adapt and use them, but Fickell is more likely, IMO, to go to a team that fits his culture or is a radical rebuild anyway (think Penn State in the wake of their coaching issues...).

At this moment Fickell can literally call his own shot. He's not desperate. He can easily wait for another year for the right situation to come around. Yes, it'll probably be a "Big Ten" program, though an ACC program could be in the mix as well. But the trajectory at UC is only UP at this point and he's under no pressure to jump right this second.

Louisville wants Brian Brohm. Whether they get him or not remains to be seen. But I don't think UL goes after Fickell. If Brohm does go to UL, then who knows what Purdue does, but I don't think Fickell goes there. I could see Jason Candle (Toledo) being high on their list or even Matt Campbell (Iowa State). Either of those two would be a home-run hire for Purdue, IMO.

I'm not worried yet. And you do know that it's only a matter of "WHEN" Fickell moves; but I'd guess things are much more interesting this time next season.

(11-11-2018 01:15 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 12:45 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 12:38 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Hard to win when you can't cheat.

I don't think CLF would go to Purdue. He's too smart for that. I can't see him choosing to be on the losing end of OSU, UM, PSU every year. He doesn't put me in the mind of one of those coaches who has a big ego and thinks he could build Purdue into a perennial B10 power.

I'm pretty much done trying to rationalize why coaches should stay at UC when they get bigger offers. If they offer him enough, he'd go to Purdue. Also, last time I checked, Purdue beat the crap out of tO$U this season.

Yeah... But...

Fickell following Brohm would have to basically start over. In my mind, they are two, radically different coaches with different styles and cultures. Brohm's "guys" fit "Brohm's System." I'm not saying Fickell couldn't adapt and use them, but Fickell is more likely, IMO, to go to a team that fits his culture or is a radical rebuild anyway (think Penn State in the wake of their coaching issues...).

At this moment Fickell can literally call his own shot. He's not desperate. He can easily wait for another year for the right situation to come around. Yes, it'll probably be a "Big Ten" program, though an ACC program could be in the mix as well. But the trajectory at UC is only UP at this point and he's under no pressure to jump right this second.

Louisville wants Brian Brohm. Whether they get him or not remains to be seen. But I don't think UL goes after Fickell. If Brohm does go to UL, then who knows what Purdue does, but I don't think Fickell goes there. I could see Jason Candle (Toledo) being high on their list or even Matt Campbell (Iowa State). Either of those two would be a home-run hire for Purdue, IMO.

I'm not worried yet. And you do know that it's only a matter of "WHEN" Fickell moves; but I'd guess things are much more interesting this time next season.

Funny, I just said rationalizing why he should stay was an exercise in futility, particularly with the current stupid money paid to coaches and the growing gap between P5 and the G5, and you replied with a bunch of rationalizations. LOL

(11-11-2018 01:23 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 01:15 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 12:45 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 12:38 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Hard to win when you can't cheat.

I don't think CLF would go to Purdue. He's too smart for that. I can't see him choosing to be on the losing end of OSU, UM, PSU every year. He doesn't put me in the mind of one of those coaches who has a big ego and thinks he could build Purdue into a perennial B10 power.

I'm pretty much done trying to rationalize why coaches should stay at UC when they get bigger offers. If they offer him enough, he'd go to Purdue. Also, last time I checked, Purdue beat the crap out of tO$U this season.

Yeah... But...

Fickell following Brohm would have to basically start over. In my mind, they are two, radically different coaches with different styles and cultures. Brohm's "guys" fit "Brohm's System." I'm not saying Fickell couldn't adapt and use them, but Fickell is more likely, IMO, to go to a team that fits his culture or is a radical rebuild anyway (think Penn State in the wake of their coaching issues...).

At this moment Fickell can literally call his own shot. He's not desperate. He can easily wait for another year for the right situation to come around. Yes, it'll probably be a "Big Ten" program, though an ACC program could be in the mix as well. But the trajectory at UC is only UP at this point and he's under no pressure to jump right this second.

Louisville wants Brian Brohm. Whether they get him or not remains to be seen. But I don't think UL goes after Fickell. If Brohm does go to UL, then who knows what Purdue does, but I don't think Fickell goes there. I could see Jason Candle (Toledo) being high on their list or even Matt Campbell (Iowa State). Either of those two would be a home-run hire for Purdue, IMO.

I'm not worried yet. And you do know that it's only a matter of "WHEN" Fickell moves; but I'd guess things are much more interesting this time next season.

Funny, I just said rationalizing why he should stay was an exercise in futility, particularly with the current stupid money paid to coaches and the growing gap between P5 and the G5, and you replied with a bunch of rationalizations. LOL

True.

Purdue gig is concerning only in that they are in the West, not the East (OSU, Michigan, PSU are in the East).
Northwestern clinched they East yesterday.

Classic. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

(11-11-2018 12:27 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  If Brohm goes to Louisville you can bet that Purdue will go after Fickell. This game never ends.

Purdue has swung and missed on every one of our coaches when they've been in search mode and ended up with someone from a bottom 3 conference (coaches are smarter now, and realize that position isn't exactly one you can have sustained success at). I doubt this will be any different.

One thing for certain, with Marcus Freeman on the staff he is a very good source of football life at Purdue as that is where he coached prior to joining Fickell here. He was on their staff at Purdue when we went up there and beat them on TT. Something tells me that Brohm will not go to Louisville, just a gut feel, but you never know.

My guess is they get turned down by Brohm and offer Todd Day at Osu the job. Then it gets interesting.

(11-11-2018 10:54 PM)dsquare Wrote:  One thing for certain, with Marcus Freeman on the staff he is a very good source of football life at Purdue as that is where he coached prior to joining Fickell here. He was on their staff at Purdue when we went up there and beat them on TT. Something tells me that Brohm will not go to Louisville, just a gut feel, but you never know.

My guess is they get turned down by Brohm and offer Todd Day at Osu the job. Then it gets interesting.

Brohm has all the leverage in the world with UL. They need him and will do whatever it takes to get him to appease the fanbase. If that somehow falls through, I think they'll strongly prefer a HC to an assistant. I'm sure they'd love Fickell, but I doubt he'd be interested. My guess: If they can get over his ties to UK, Neal Brown @ Troy St. would be a good fit.

(11-11-2018 10:54 PM)dsquare Wrote:  One thing for certain, with Marcus Freeman on the staff he is a very good source of football life at Purdue as that is where he coached prior to joining Fickell here. He was on their staff at Purdue when we went up there and beat them on TT. Something tells me that Brohm will not go to Louisville, just a gut feel, but you never know.

My guess is they get turned down by Brohm and offer Todd Day at Osu the job. Then it gets interesting.

Do you mean Ryan Day? I bet they have no chance at Day. He is supposed to be the Head coach in waiting at OSU.

Louisville is the new Tennessee.

P5 or not... Aint nobody going to touch that.

(11-12-2018 08:25 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  Louisville is the new Tennessee.

P5 or not... Aint nobody going to touch that.

Why?

(11-12-2018 08:26 AM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 08:25 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  Louisville is the new Tennessee.

P5 or not... Aint nobody going to touch that.

Why?

Look around.

Big Daddy Jurich's gone. Pretty Rick is gone. The cheatin' jig is up.

UK has stepped it up in football. The Petrino magic is gone. No more Lamar Jacksons are walking through the door.

When realignment happens again... and it will... who do you think the ACC's going to drop like a bad habit?

The lipstick's been rubbed off that pig.

(11-12-2018 08:46 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 08:26 AM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 08:25 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  Louisville is the new Tennessee.

P5 or not... Aint nobody going to touch that.

Why?

Look around.

Big Daddy Jurich's gone. Pretty Rick is gone. The cheatin' jig is up.

UK has stepped it up in football. The Petrino magic is gone. No more Lamar Jacksons are walking through the door.

When realignment happens again... and it will... who do you think the ACC's going to drop like a bad habit?

The lipstick's been rubbed off that pig.

Doubt that. Much like CLF bypassed the Tubbs era, and looked to what UC could be rather than what they currently are. Just 2 years they were on the cusp of making the Playoffs until they folded and lost the last 3 games of the year.

They're in a weak ACC, so a road to the upper reaches of the CFB is available. Also, everyone knows how much money that school pulls down from athletics. It's not at all a bad landing spot for the ambitious HC type.





mc

Brohm will go to Louisville, hard for a guy who put so much into that university to stick around, assuming they can afford to do so.

I don't see Fickell going to Purdue. I could be wrong. Bohn needs to back the Brinks truck up to his house to keep Fickell around for a few more years. I'm more than willing to have success and reset every 3 years than hire another washed up redneck.

When Brohm goes to Louisville, maybe Butch Jones will go to Purdue, his dream school.

(11-12-2018 09:40 AM)bearcatdp Wrote:  When Brohm goes to Louisville, maybe Butch Jones will go to Purdue, his dream school.

mc

(11-12-2018 09:20 AM)marcuscan Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 08:46 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 08:26 AM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(11-12-2018 08:25 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  Louisville is the new Tennessee.

P5 or not... Aint nobody going to touch that.

Why?

Look around.

Big Daddy Jurich's gone. Pretty Rick is gone. The cheatin' jig is up.

UK has stepped it up in football. The Petrino magic is gone. No more Lamar Jacksons are walking through the door.

When realignment happens again... and it will... who do you think the ACC's going to drop like a bad habit?

The lipstick's been rubbed off that pig.

Doubt that. Much like CLF bypassed the Tubbs era, and looked to what UC could be rather than what they currently are. Just 2 years they were on the cusp of making the Playoffs until they folded and lost the last 3 games of the year.

They're in a weak ACC, so a road to the upper reaches of the CFB is available. Also, everyone knows how much money that school pulls down from athletics. It's not at all a bad landing spot for the ambitious HC type.





mc

I tend to agree with that. UL has shown they are committed to their athletics programs at the highest levels. The football program has had a lot of success very recently - a BCS bowl win, heisman trophy winner, hosting college gameday, etc. And they have a great shot to get to the upper levels of CFB playing in a weak ACC, as you said.

They don't care about academics, they'll throw money at athletics until they get it right. They just spent another $60 million renovating/expanding the stadium. Hell, even in light of everything going on with the basketball scandal they were still able to go out and land Mack.

(11-12-2018 09:25 AM)djtothemoney Wrote:  Brohm will go to Louisville, hard for a guy who put so much into that university to stick around, assuming they can afford to do so.

I don't see Fickell going to Purdue. I could be wrong. Bohn needs to back the Brinks truck up to his house to keep Fickell around for a few more years. I'm more than willing to have success and reset every 3 years than hire another washed up redneck.

Just have that truck hold back some of the cash they dump at Mick's house and deposit it at Fick's instead.

If no one has booted Rutgers from the Big Ten yet, then you can bet the L'Ville is going nowhere.